cussing and swearing
WorldFalls said on November 5, 2004 10:56:
I realize this is going to sounds like a really strange question, but I’m really curious so please help me out here!
In the US, there are lots of “bad” words that people get hung up over (shit, damn, hell, f***, b***h, c**t). I have a friend who lives in the UK and she told me that they don’t get hung up over those words at all. I was surprised to hear that!
My question is this: Are there taboo or “bad” words in your country/language?
It’s late where I’m at and strange things pop into my head when I’m doing the insomnia thang! ;)
WorldFalls said on November 5, 2004 12:48:
So if you’re standing in line at a grocery store and you drop your wallet on the floor and say “damn!” is that socially ok? Or if you are chatting with the receptionist at your doctor’s office and lighting strikes nearby and you say, “holy shit!” is that shocking? I’m just curious becuase Americans are really bugged out by this sort of thing. It tends to frustrate me because they are just words and I don’t understand why they bug people so much.
One more thing...whenever I watch a movie made in the UK, I hear the word “bloody” used much like we would use the “f” word. Is that considered a naughty word? They all convey the same meaning. Bloody, damn, dang, darn, frickin’, and a million others. It amazes me that people get bothered over some and not others! lol!
What about other countries? I’d love to hear people’s take on this! Are there taboo words in Sweden, Denmark, Norway, Germany....?
Oldag75 said on November 5, 2004 12:57:
People typically employ vulgarities because they lack the intelligence/creativity to express themselves in a fashion that is not obscene.
WorldFalls said on November 5, 2004 13:07:
lol! I love it when people make the “people only cuss because they lack vocabulary” argument. I have eight years of college (including a minor in creative writing) behind me and I cuss, as do most of my friends who are also well educated.
All words have their place. If you are out jogging and you fall and break your leg, I don’t think, “oh golly gee, what a bummer” is the right expression! That is a case where the best word in the English language is, “F**K!”
Tell me, what is the difference between saying “damn” and saying “darn?” Do they not convey the same meaning?
Rich-UK said on November 5, 2004 13:24:
I think that it’s socially OK to most people in the UK to exclaim “Damn!” if you drop your wallet. “Holy shit” sounds more American than British to me, and I don’t really hear that here. But if you were to forget to pick up some cheese in the supermarket and then realise when in the queue and say “Shit, I’ve forgotten the cheese!”, I can’t imagine that many check-out assistants would be bothered, although “Shit, I’ve forgotten the f***ing cheese!” is a different matter... lol. All the best, Rich ;-)
Oldag75 said on November 5, 2004 13:44:
Goodness, some folks are just such deity-condemned copulating intellectuals, it boggles the mind!
Vixzter said on November 5, 2004 20:56:
damn, bloody and sod are pretty usual in the UK ;)
also....bollocks LOL
i use all the above frequently (esp at work) ;)
F*** will turn a few heads (not as many as it used to), c*** lots more (awful word!)
Vixzter said on November 5, 2004 20:57:
i guesse i lack inteligence and creativity then ;) sux to be me
Vixzter said on November 5, 2004 20:59:
@Rich: i did the “shit i fogotten the f***** cat food” tonight at Tesco ;)
on_a_mission said on November 5, 2004 21:09:
yea, f**k and shit will turn a few heads. C*** is prettymuch a no go. It does get used casually in some really bad areas in the west of scotland though. but its still thought of as ’bad language’
Rich-UK said on November 5, 2004 21:49:
LOL Vix ;-)
[seems like you’ve lost your manager - Mr Santini could have been good for you too...]
Vixzter said on November 5, 2004 21:59:
@rich: yea, i just saw that on bbc, personal reasons :( so back to the drawing board.
LittleSpooky said on November 5, 2004 22:20:
Although it’s not lady like.. .(show me a lady, please), I do. And let me tell you what... I give Sailors a run for their money.
Oldag75: I find you a rather insulting, narrow-minded individual. It has nothing to do with education, or lack there of. It has something to do with shock value. But since words such as those are practically common place in everyday language, they have lost their ability to shock people.
Of course, you wouldn’t know about that... you’re to edjimikated fer thuh likz uv meee.
Vixzter said on November 6, 2004 08:43:
@spooks: yay i’m not the only un-inteligent and lack of creativity person around here then *phew*
at the end of the day theyre only words and they’re all in the dictrionary so they can all be used! ;-) so i think i have great knowledge of the dictionary then someone who doesnt swear ;-)
Ferdan said on November 6, 2004 08:50:
I don´t like saying “bad” words at all. But it is healthy to do so once in a while.
ncurran said on November 8, 2004 19:49:
i say them all....there is nothing wrong with swearing....there is only one i would avoid around people i dont know and thats the c*nt word. I dont see a problem with it, but certain people are offended, so i wouldnt use it unless i knew the people well. I would generally avoid swearing at work, in front of my dad ( my mums ok), and my gran, but otherwise my conversation is full of sh*ts, f*cks and bloody (thats not really a swear word at all imo.
Pri*k is another one i use regulary and bi*ch for a girl....but again only with friends and in a jokey way
roxlad said on November 8, 2004 20:21:
I usually say ’ship’ instead of ’s**t’, it works :-)))
But actually what I really hear in northern England all the time is ’bl**dy’... e.g. ’I can’t find my bl**dy wallet’....
Vixzter said on November 8, 2004 20:47:
@ncrurran: same here , i’d next to never swear infront of my dad. well not the harsher words anyways ;)
tis probably a good job there is a delete button on a pc and i (usualy) read what i’m about to send ;)
*edited due to bad spelling not bad swearing*
LittleSpooky said on November 8, 2004 22:22:
*introduces Vix to her good friend Webster’s*
Oh, and if you’d like, I’ll introduce you to Roget as well ;o)
RoxHard said on November 9, 2004 03:59:
OMG! This topic has just brought back some terrible memories for me....
I was walking along the school hallway, when I was about 14, with my principle. I wasn’t a geek or anything, but I was late for class and I just bumped into him. Anyway, we were talking about something, I think we were just joking at first, and he asked me about someone from my class. Aparently, one of my friends had done a not-very-nice thing to one of the teachers cars, and... him being my friend and all, I stood up for him. I said something like “oh no, he was with me at that time”. And my principle just kept going on and on about it... and he ended up correcting me on something that I just said - and I stumbled and my mind went blank. I can vividly remember my mind just feeling crushed with dissapointment, and the next thing I know... the words “aww f*ck!” spewed out of my mouth!
Got me into a sh*tload of trouble, too!
carbon_boy said on November 9, 2004 09:04:
What I’ve noticed reading the replies to this topic is that so many people are so sheltered from life.
RoxLad even used stars in place of the 2 o’s in BLOODY. My God, didnt even think that “Bloody” could be seen as a swear word.
So, anyways, my fave ones to use: Jirre Jissis, For F***s sakes, Jeeezuz, F**k, Poes, C**t & Bitch. Afr speaking ppl will get it.
I really dont have a problem using it - but I wont use it in public...welll...., use certain words in front of folks or friends i know are highly christian, etc.
Cheers
Oldag75 said on November 9, 2004 12:55:
Yes, the shock value of vulgar wording is a superlative distraction from any verbal expression’s absence of substance.
Vixzter said on November 9, 2004 13:05:
oldag: which world do u live in? or did u swallow a dictionary for breakfast.
go on tell me i’m uncreative again, i thought that was classic ;-)
sux to be me
ncurran said on November 9, 2004 13:33:
carbon boy, i didnt use a * with bloody, cos i dont even consider it to me a swear word, neither is damn. As for the other words i only used a * because i didnt know if we were allowed to use these words here....i have no f*ckin problem using them if we’re allowed to.
F*ck is one of my favourite words, as it can be used in almost any sentence to emphasise your point.
Olddag, for f*ck sake...they are only f*ckin words, and they express just as f*ckin much as any other f*ckin word you f*ckin choose to f*ckin use.
carbon_boy said on November 9, 2004 15:42:
@ncurran: I didnt mean that towards you, was meant for RoxLad. LOL. And yes, f**k is a fabulous word - can mean so many things and one can use it in so many ways! :oD
@Vix&Ncurran: Two thumbs up!!! LOL! “Old-hag”, wtf?! You sound like Joey Potter from Dawson’s Creek!!! Like I said before, you have a better vocab than 99% of your fellow americans... including Bush! They shouldve made YOU president...
Vixzter said on November 9, 2004 17:40:
bloody isnt a swear word here its an institution ;)
along with sod arse and damn ;)
RoxHard said on November 9, 2004 20:03:
“F**k” has become soooo passé! You say it here... and no one gives a damn. It really doesn’t matter!
I still wouldn’t say it in front of my poor little granny, though....
LittleSpooky said on November 9, 2004 21:29:
Oldag must have something to hide.
Usually when people post like that... they want people to think they are smarter than they really are.
Either that
Or Vix is right, as usual ;o)
Vixzter said on November 11, 2004 19:46:
has anyone heard the Blink 182 track called Family Reunion? damn thats funny, can send to anyone who wants just don’t play near ppls who are easily offended ;)
Markuz said on November 11, 2004 21:37:
“I know it may sound funny...”
That´s NOT funny at all IMHO!
harriej said on June 9, 2005 21:38:
Ever listened to Limp Bizkit?
I mean for example track nr. 2 on Chocolate Starfish (Can’t remember the track-name at this point) :)
on_a_mission said on June 9, 2005 21:58:
I don’t think swearing is always a sign of inarticulacy. Many times it is. However, these words exist, in english at least, for a reason. Therefore, they have an appropriate context.
I am of the opinion they can be witty, poignant or an appropriate expression of sheer frustration,
on_a_mission.
MiracleMan said on June 10, 2005 01:02:
I swear like a lapsed nun at a biker bar sonetimes—but there’s also knowing where and when can you can use it.
I find a well placed appropriate swear in a conversation with a more reserved group can delightfully inappropriate fun, even leavening, especially when it’s rather unexpected. Again—knowing where and when helps.
LittleSpooky said on June 10, 2005 05:46:
Miracle: Between you and me... I think we qualify as a whole nun!
ally77 said on June 10, 2005 06:51:
God I really use the F-word far too much..... it may as well be added to the oxford dic as nowadays it’s all I hear from kids on the bus! :) I remember using in school back in 1991, boy did I get bollocked for that one....
frisso said on June 10, 2005 23:29:
i really love when english people cussing and swearing.
i like the english language (uk)
i love their humour too.
if i ever move to anothor country it will be bloody england you sod people hi hi hi
ally77 said on June 11, 2005 18:09:
@ Zaine.... really... god I need to get a new dic, think mine is from the year dot!
Rich-UK said on November 5, 2004 12:05:
Well we’re not very cultured over here ;-)
I’d say that most people don’t get hung up at all by shit, damn, hell and b***h, more people get hung up by f***, and most get hung up by c**t. This is assuming, of course, you’re not talking about beach, foot and cart... hope that helps! All the best, Rich