Santi said on November 4, 2002 20:38:

Are you rich Vix??? If you don’t like some of it, send it here :P

PerFanatic said on November 4, 2002 22:35:

hey Vix, I’d be willing to bet you’ll get it from Skivhugget first... that place kix butt!

Mfan28179-Jason said on November 5, 2002 02:40:

Yes, Thomas, let us know please! I just ordered the EP version from skivhugget.com last night in fact. But if I can get my hands on this non-copyprotected Canadian release, I’ll surely do it! Not so I can burn CDs and sell them but so I can make my own compilations with these new songs!

DaminehGessle said on November 6, 2002 06:23:

I ordered through HMV.COM as I’m currently in the US and will go back home in 2 months. I don’t know when I’ll be receiving the CD but my mom just told me that she could go get it for me from HMV in person :)! So I didn’t have to pay shipping and all. I assume the store price is more than the internet price so it would still come up to $27 at the end.

PerFanatic said on November 6, 2002 17:07:

yes, at $25 canadian, that comes out to be just over $16 US! A very good price indeed.

But did you notice that they still have it listed as “Love Peas”? Very interesting.

Oh, did you also notice the sales rank... #49... not too bad.

pietROxette said on November 6, 2002 17:11:

I hate that play.com is shipping only to countries of the European Union. It’s not fair... :-/

felicity-brown said on November 7, 2002 13:37:

Got it too, thanks to Play! (who I doubted at first) Now I need all the other releases :D

misteryman00 said on November 7, 2002 14:46:

i work at a wall mart and i saw an EMI MAN and he told that its sure it will be out on nov 12!!! som im not worried!!

pietROxette said on November 7, 2002 19:14:

Hey Roxchurch, Irvye knows me and knows well where I’m from :-) He said that North Americans can buy the album from HMV.

Actually I went to HMV and seen that they - surprise, surprise - don’t ship to my country. I have e-mailed them and here’s what I got:

»Dear Peter,

Thank you for your message. Unfortunately due to a large amount of highly suspicious orders being shipped to Hungary, we regret that we are no longer able to ship our products to your country. It is for this reason that Hungary has been removed from our web-site. (We have encountered similar problems with Austria and Croatia.)

We apologize for the inconvenience and thank you for your understanding.«

This is bullsh!t, sorry... How can an order be highly suspicious? I don’t understand it. They only ship an item IF the buyer paid it with credit card. Then? How on earth can an order be highly suspicious if it’s fully paid?

PerFanatic said on November 7, 2002 22:59:

Pietro,

I truly sympathize with your situation my friend. I think what this company was trying to say though is that when they ship item to Hungary (and the other countries they mentioned), there is a high theft rate, which results in their customers not receiving the items they ordered. Regardless of whether a person’s already paid via credit card, I assume this company has refended the money to their customers who never recieved the product. I would assume that they have studied these trends and at some point, it just became too costly for them to ship to these countries.

What I’m getting at here is that I don’t think they’re not shipping to Hungary because they don’t like Hungarians. I think it’s more a case of, if they’re losing money by shipping things there, they just decided to cut their losses.

Again, nothing against Hungarians (heck, I married one and have several friends), but you have to admit one of two things: either the Hungarian Postal Service is very corrupt and steals items themselves, or, they do not control the security of their male, which enables criminals to steal it. I know first hand of this problem as we have had hundred’s of dollars worth of items stolen en route to my wife’s family in Szigetszentmiklos. Unfortunately, the corrupt actions of a few criminals make the rest of the country’s good people suffer from companies that won’t ship to Hungary because of this problem.

btw, what the heck is up with the release in Hungary anyway? Roxette is usually very popular there...

roxchurch said on November 8, 2002 07:37:

Sorry irvye- i didn’t understood rightly “If you live in North America “.... but i was so angry about all this wrong attitude to different countries...:-(((

roxchurch said on November 8, 2002 11:59:

high theft rate— ha-ha-ha-ha who gives that rates??? :-))

as Pietro says-“An item sent registered can always be tracked”(and than nobody will talk about theft rates:-)))
That is a common thing when you sent something 100000 miles away !!!
It’s not expensive at all!!
I send lots of thing to the countries far away from me using the bulgarian post office,and there weren’t any probs..

PerFanatic said on November 8, 2002 17:46:

Hi Pietro,

You’ve made some good points in you last post about the use of registered mail. Unfortunately, as with many other US Government-run agencies, the US Postal Service cannot be used with the apparent ease of its international equivalents. I suspected that the cost of sending something International Registered from the US was quite expensive, so I checked the website at www.usps.com and this is what I found: to send a international registered package (up to $40.45 in value) would cost about $8. Any additional value would require the purchase of additional insurance at the rate of about $2-$3 per $100 of value (I think anyway). Granted, if companies shipping from the US offered this service, the customer would obviously have to pay for it. I doubt that most people would chose this option as the cost is quite significant, especially if you’re only ordering 5-6 CD’s and already paying $5-$10 for shipping. So, I think most of the orders shipped to those countries would still end up being shipped the non-registered method anyway. However, a further reason US companies wouldn’t even offer this service is that it would require them to spend hours at the post office waiting to have their registered packages processed by postal personnel. Companies (like Amazon, etc) that ship 1000’s of packages per day have a shipping system in place, which was designed to be cheap, efficient and fast. For almost all of there packages that are shipped, they are processed at their warehouses, and then just “dumped” in bulk at a postal location. I can’t imagine any of those companies being willing to send their employees to the post office and spend countless hours waiting to have the registered mail processed. Again, this is unfortunate, but a reality of big business.

And, here’s another bad thing about our postal service. One of the packages I sent to Hungary, I sent registered and insured for about $200. Well, after several months, the package had still not arrived. Finally after about 10 weeks, my wife’s parents received the package, but it had obviously been opened and re-sealed. Everything of value had been stolen and they only left a few personal items (like pictures, etc) in the package. So, after telling my story to numerous postal employees, I filed a claim with all of the correct documentation. Finally, after 2 months, they informed me that the most I could recover would be about $12. Some crap about the fact that the package was actually received or something like that. So, in short, I paid money to protect the value of that package and it ended up being worthless. For this I blame the crappy US postal service, and mine is not an uncommon problem. So, you may see why companies here try to avoid dealing with those morons at the US Postal Service.

Let’s put it this way… you know what kind of reputation the police have in Hungary, right? Well, let’s just say that the our postal service is that equivalent in the US:)

pietROxette said on November 8, 2002 22:48:

Vixz, is the one you’re talking about the Canadian release?

Vixzter said on November 10, 2002 11:26:

@piet - yup says emi canada on it so i assume so.