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Welcome to the all-new Daily Roxette

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roxeteer said on November 19, 2006 09:16:

As you can see, we have changed the layout and switched into using Drupal as our backend system. There will probably be many small things that don't work (hopefully not any bigger ones). Tell us if you encounted any hickups. You can either discuss the issues in the discussion boards or send us feedback.

sandyam said on :

Sometimes changes are needed and I am sure you have a reason for doing it this way now but I already miss the ’old’ layout which was much more easier to overview, in my opinion.
Well, I am sure I will get used to it soon...

ally77 said on :

Well I believe in being honest so this might not go down to well, but I simply don’t like it. I am already finding it hard to get around and the white background makes it hard to read stuff.

Like Sandyam said it just might take time to adjust to it although another forum I use changed recently and I adjusted to that right away…

It’s feels really cold at the moment, like the warmth has been sucked out of TDR!

JoyRidErno said on :

Layout is lighter... code is what I like, but forum is not. The old one was bettter :)

jobarth said on :

Why did you change the layout, it was perfect. Now it’s really cold, colourless und boring...

roxeteer (moderator) said on :

The main reason for the change was that I built the old system back in 1999. I didn’t have enough time to fix the bugs and add missing features (mostly in the admin side), let alone keep the layout up-to-date. With a system built and maintained by someone else, like this Drupal, it’s easier to add new functionalities because you don’t have to worry about the framework.

tevensso (moderator) said on :

Ha ha, I just knew it. Some are never pleased... :)

Mari said on :

Hmm, forum is maybe better, but the frontpage isn’t. White colour is too official and boring, like some company’s intranet. Left side of the page looks really bad.

Mari said on :

How can I edit my reply? Is it possible?

roxeteer’s blog looks much, much better, especially fonts on the link box are nice. Why don’t use that kind of like layout?

Breathe8 said on :

Sorry but before this change everything was perfect, forum was well-arranged, perfect graphics, information about users, for example how many posts they have etc. Now it´s a really boring and cold...

Rox1_4ever said on :

I like the forum but I want more colours. I loved the orange before becuse it was diffrent to many others sites and looked so warm.

ncurran said on :

It loooks MUCH better. The old site looked very dated. This is much more slick and modern. I wouldve liked the addition of smilies to the forum but no big deal. Its looking great, well done!

RobS said on :

hmmmm, i dunno... it could take a while to get used to this.

The layout of the old version was much easier to read, and as some people have said it seems a little “cold”. Maybe a few tweaks here and there would help. Can’t say what thought... yet

But as with anything new, in time you learn to live with it!.

ncurran said on :

Just one small question. Has the ’Features’ section been abandoned? Also can you look at archived news articles? I cant find the link for either of these as there is only an option for ’Latest news’

rox-kuryliw said on :

OW LORD THANK god the horrid orange has gone ! This is a lot more classy.

Zargo said on :

Oh I sure hate it, but then I tend to be resistent to change in most cases.

Of course I’ll get used to it eventually, but i guess you don’t realise just how easy to use and well-constructed the old site was until it disapears.

ally77 said on :

“tevensso said on November 19, 2006 12:01:

Ha ha, I just knew it. Some are never pleased... :)”

You see that is just annoying Thomas because it’s almost like you don’t like others expressing an opinion on the new layout of TDR!

Few missing things, maybe they will be fixed but no “edit your reply”

In people’s profiles you can’t view where they are from or there name or number of posts!

Chaghi said on :

Congrats guys! I think you did the right move going with a system like Drupal, instead of “cooking” your own. To me, a proper search was the most important feature missing in the old TDR. So, thanks for the new search engine :)

A regards the layout... I think everyone will miss the orange, it was with us for so long, and it was like a kind of “trademark” of TDR. Something REALLY different to any other community site. But it’s good to change, and I’m sure is a matter of time to get used to it.

I do agree with people that says that the new layout is not as easy to read, though. I don’t know exactly why... but I also feel the same. And readability counts! Maybe the new layout/CSS needs some love in that department. But it’s not a big deal, either.

Jud (moderator) said on :

We of course already expected some people not to like the new layout, we even made bets! (btw, Tev, you owe me one ;))

This is just natural, many people don’t like changes, and this change is quite drastic, specially taking into account the old design has been around for many years.. people got used to it..It was the same when we switched from the green-gray layout to the orange layout, most got used to it, as most will get used to this new design as well.

Drupal will make our lives easier too as admins/mods, and specially Visa’s.

To those who left constructive feedback: thanks :)

Thanks for all your work Visa!!!

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ally77 said on :

Will the missing things come back?

steven said on :

My two cents worth...

It appears that the improvements (if any) are mainly intended for the TDR staff, which no doubt make it easier to administer the site.

I see very little improvement or new features for the readers.

Old TDR was a warm, inviting Roxette corner of the Internet.

New TDR is a barrenness white expense, which has lost it’s soul.

Visa, I’m a fan of your work, always have been, but I don’t like this - sorry.

imazombieinthem... said on :

I don’t really like it, only because I’m not used to it yet :) The white is blinding me abit though.

How about the screen width? Seems it’s set up for fancy widescreen monitors only. The page is scrolling off the screen by 25% sideways for a standard monitor. Can you set it up so it detects you screen resolution and adjusts accordingly, like yahoo.

Mari said on :

roxeteer wants our opinions, but tevensso makes fun about negative opinions...Sounds kinda arrogant!
So here’s the things which need some fixing.

- editing your posts
- profile
- boring frontpage (maybe some colors to frames or some fixing to “box” or fonts?)

tevensso (moderator) said on :

“Features” is dead yes. :)
I’m sure Visa will add the “edit” to all posts eventually. It will make life easier for all of us.
Why am I not allowed to “make fun” of your comments? Are you children that can’t take it? Most of you have been aching to see this new TDR and now when you get it, you don’t like it. Of course I make fun of that.

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imazombieinthem... said on :

where’s the edit option for your posts?

What is the favicon supposed to be??? ^^^^

Gatecrasher said on :

Interesting use of Drupal, I’m using its core to deploy a global KM solution for my employer.

I’ve always found some of the more user friendly forum based solutions more appropriate for fan sites, such as Fusion or SMS. Drupal’s forum is notoriously inflexible and really requires integration of another product to make is a friendly and feature rich piece of dynamic content which will encourage users to visit regularly.

That said, Drupal is *extremely* powerful, and can do things which even some of the large vendors are not doing yet (hence my convincing my company to go open source and save a few hundred thousand pounds).

Perhaps you can look at some of the warmer themes for Drupal and see how you can use that here? It does seem very clinical and not terribly friendly. Even though I *know* what can be done with Drupal sites, my first impression here was one of sterility and coldness.

Drop me a line if you need a hand with anything, happy to help if I can.

Gatecrasher said on :

The favicon is the default drupal logo, it’s the “Druplicon” :)

steven said on :

“Why am I not allowed to “make fun” of your comments? Are you children that can’t take it?”

YOU certainly can’t!

When someone dares to mock you, out come the admin tools and the post disappears faster than it was posted.

Arrogant hypocrite.

Lantartida said on :

I think I understand the reason for some changes. I’ve had a look (sharp) and it seems people can’t see the e-mail and then they can’t send archives to them. It is my first message so I don’t know if we can edit or not, but this can persuade people to share what they shouldn’t (??) and then change what they say in the message. I don’t know if this Smalltalk will be better (I think it won’t) but the news are worth so I will continue reading The Daily Roxette (THANKS TO THE TDR TEAM: YOU’RE MARVELOUS!!) and maybe only post more in other forum (runtoroxette).

Sincerely yours

pwbbounce (moderator) said on :

Well, it’s certainly different!! It will take a while to get used to it I think!!

Well, the nice and friendly comments are out in force in here today aren’t they...

blunek said on :

Since today I will change my default website, because this dreadful new design will definitely not cheer me up in the morning after turning my pc on. :0/
Sometimes it‘s not a good idea to replant an old tree...

ncurran said on :

Oh please, talk about being over-dramatic. The content is practically the same. Its just a new look. Get over it.

Ary-Sya said on :

Why, did you chage it? it seems a bit strange now...

RobS said on :

Is it possible to add the “jump to page” shortcut to the top of the page? On long threads you end up scrolling forever just to jump to the next/last page.

Also i noticed that there is no “Smalltalk” anymore, just TDR discussions :-( I think that gave the forums a little bit of character.

Is this the final layout or with there still be some ongoing finetuning?

Oh and can you add a button to post now, instead of having to preview first?

Jud (moderator) said on :

Collecting things that should to be added:

- Edit comment link
- Page navigation (1, 2, next, last) at the top besides bottom part of the comments

Thanks

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Ramas said on :

Also, I would like to add about logging in: on the old site you had user name and password fields on each page, if you were not logged in. Now you have to click “Log in” first. It takes one additional step. Could you bring back such functionality ?

About forum/discussion - the middle column of the site could have border or very bright background, so that it could be more easily distinguished from left column (navigation and goodle ads)

kachina008 said on :

Ooooooooooooooooh SIGGIES! :D

New layout is interesting, but I’d prefer the google ads to be at the end of the page instead of on the left side. It takes away from the actual menu at the top.

Kiwein1 said on :

I miss the colours but that’s about it. Let’s get used to it - you all will like it quicker than you can imagine. ;-)

ally77 said on :

The layout is growing on me.... but I think it’s the white background that is off putting the most....

@ Thomas, sorry to say this but I think your backlashing of people’s comments is a bit rude... perhaps if you can’t accept people’s opinions on the new TDR maybe moderating is not the job for you!

Jud (moderator) said on :

There are comments and comments :)

Or said in another way:

- Some people are just sitting there waiting for the smallest chance to complain, bash, hurt, be rude.

- Other people who write negative comments in a constructive way, not meaning it in any other way than just that: feedback.

Whom do you think we take seriously? :)

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ally77 said on :

Oh please, my first comment here this morning was just adding my thoughts to the layout of TDR and along comes Thomas with his stupid response. Steven posted his thoughts and again another backlash comment from Thomas….

It’s called constructive criticism; you would think one could take that and not go over the top with a response. Thomas has the cheek to call us children….

…. Many of us learn that here at TDR the moderators are going to stick together they always do, would we really expect anything else!

I spoke to several people this morning over the new layout of TDR via email and MSN many won’t even offer there opinion here because they expect replies from Thomas…

There no point in Visa expecting people to offer there opinion when his moderators are so OTT in there response!

Kiwein1 said on :

There’s one thing I just recognized: First you have the possibility to click only to see the new comments. But when you click on it you get forwarded to the first page of the topic and not to the new comments. Maybe it’s a bug, I don’t know. Just wanted to let you know..

And a sidenote: The ads on the left are either too big or put on the wrong place. Doesn’t fit at all IMHO. Maybe it’s really better to put them on the bottom? I know that this is a possibility to earn some money but it somehow looks like TDR needs it badly. Just my opinion.

tevensso (moderator) said on :

Whining whining... what else is new? If you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen eh?
And for Steven I have no comment what-so-ever, you lost that privilege months ago. All I can say is yawn.
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Jud (moderator) said on :

wow! Great to see TDR is THE subject of the day today! :)

I didn’t point at anybody in my previous post anyway. Talking in general, not the first time we’ve had this discussion. We have actually had at least monthly in the past year about other issues regarding TDR. Rules, OW video, why we publish this or that article, etc etc. And I refer to my comment above again.

Not only Visa expects to get some Feedback, we do as well, read my and Thomas’ comments, we KNOW we have to apply some changes, it can’t be any other way with such a new layout and system!

You might have missed I started making a list (see some previous post). I sent an email to Visa as well with a couple of issues, and I collected some more from a couple of people I also chatted with.

Have a nice Sunday :)
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steven said on :

“Yawn” is a comment.

LOL

steven said on :

Another for you list Judith...

When you click on Log Out, you receive the following message:

“You are not authorized to access this page.”

Jud (moderator) said on :

hm.. I logged out just now from here (Discussions) and I was redirected to the front page, no error for me :(
From where did you log out?
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Lantartida said on :

I’ve posted my opinion before. But after moving around TDR I think news are clearer now. And news are the most important, useful and interesting issue in TDR. So for me it’s OK. Really good job, TDR team. “TDR forum” (SMALLTALK) is different from other Rox fans forums but as far as I am concerned, TDR discussions should be about news and not about other issues (sharing files, the most common).

So I’ll be reading TDR latests news every week and I will use this forum to ask doubts about some of the (new or older) news.

Thanks

RobS said on :

I’d like to see the navigation menu underneath the TDR banner with the search field integrated with it. And i’m guessing that the font used is just temporary?? as it doesn’t seem to fit with anything else.

And will all the old user info (email, posts, etc) be added?

BTW Love the new search feature, i’m sure it’s gonna come in handy.

tevensso (moderator) said on :

Ally, if you have things you want to tell me, or other members of the TDR staff, why don’t you do it to our faces instead of bashing us in your blog and at other forums, for instance? That’s kind of low, don’t you think?
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coyboyusa said on :

i too am a champion of change but it looks, eh I dunno ammaturish, the old page had class and looked porfessional, not to offend anyone who put alot of effort into it but bleh the plain white hurts the crap out of my eyes

ally77 said on :

Why Thomas? .... because it was a well known fact that back in September when sharing of songs happened you kept removing people’s posts and comments and no one was allowed to post there thoughts or comments... I expressed my comments in my blog because that way YOU could not delete them for me!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice to see you remember....

Now who trailed off the original title of this topic.... can we kindly discuss what this thread is about?

GT_85 said on :

I think it’s great with a new design. Pure and simple, just the way it should be. And not a minute too late. Many thanks for doing this.

Just one thing that I don’t like, the “ads by google” I think should be in another colour. It looks too much like the rest of the site.

kachina008 said on :

me ? :D :D :D

kachina008 said on :

Hmm, I was answering Judith’s comment about who they take seriously. Did I do something wrong? I clicked on the reply button in Judith’s post..??

tevensso (moderator) said on :

It seems that all replies end up at the bottom.
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Santi said on :

I think the navigation is harder. The drop-down menu from the previous website to jump from forum to forum was very nice. Also the edit option is absolutely needed :D
I feel that the member profiles are very uninteresting now, it was better before when you could have a look at personal websites, the contacts, the place where they come from, real names and stuff :P

Zargo said on :

“Most of you have been aching to see this new TDR”

What a silly generalisation...

Santi said on :

@steven: LOL, so you’re not allowed to log out or what? :D

miss-misery said on :

This new design looks kinda strange. I guess I’ll get used to it in a couple of days. Just a remark: If you wanted to change the layout, you could’ve done it without eliminating some useful stuff we already had, like the edit bottom. It seems everybody’s missing it.

Cheers :D

kachina008 said on :

Tev: I don’t understand...sorry...

tevensso (moderator) said on :

I mean that all responses end up here, as a normal reply.
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FireDiamond said on :

I like the new title sign, but just can‘t accept the other changes. Please take a look at it on 800x600 resolution - the rox picture is blocking the title sign and the “news” area is far too small - the titles goes for 2-3 rows and the font is not so good choise either (my oppinion though :o)). I think I‘m hardly the only one using 800x600 res. and it‘ll be a shame if it stays that way cos it causes a disscomfort every time viewing. Please fix it, I come here at least twice a day every day! cheers!

Roxette-atic said on :

i think the page is so-so... I might get used to this new TDR but it wont be better than the old one. it feels to white, empty and cold for me...
Something like the SOAP-page would be better I think. The thing I like the most is the way you write ROXETTE on the page, with a star instead of an X =)

roxeteer (moderator) said on :

Sorry for the “edit” links missing from the comments. They will return.

I can’t reproduce the problem of “log out” redirecting to a “not authorized” page. For me, it always redirects to the frontpage.

Thank you for your comments on the new layout. There definitely are things to improve and I don’t mind being criticized as long as you have something constructive to say as well. But please understand that sometimes change is needed. This time the change was very dramatic, but the old layout was there for 7 years and that’s an eternity on the Internet!

JoyRidErno said on :

As I said before new layout is good, but forum needs a lot of work. Why there are no black lines around post? Like the links box on the top left... My eyes like it that way..

I actually liked the old one so much I build my own forum... and it looks like the old tdr ;)

http://koti.mbnet.fi/oogesoft/roinaz/qwia/forum/pf1.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/oogesoft/roinaz/qwia/forum/pf2.jpg
http://koti.mbnet.fi/oogesoft/roinaz/qwia/forum/pf3.jpg

html tags are allowed? Can I put my own css to them? Is that disabled..? (Hope it is..)

roxeteer (moderator) said on :

@FireDiamond: According to user statistics, 90% of our users have better resolution than 800x600. Unfortunately we can’t please everyone.

KixGuy said on :

I don’t like it. It looks like you guys have simply thrown information on the page without any design criteria. It’s confusing and visually poluted. The fonts used don’t make the texts easily readable... You should try Verdana instead, since it’s a generic and nice font especially designed to be used on internet texts. The star used as “X” on the title doesn’t work either. Sorry. And please don’t ask me to do better... I’m a graphic/web designer but I don’t have intentions to make another Roxette-site. There are plenty of them already. Please, don’t get me wrong. I do like the concept of the website, the exchange of information. The only thing I don’t like is the design. You should ask for a little help from Roxette fans who are really talented and willing to contribute to make well-designed Roxette websites, like Marcus from “Rox Service”. That’s what I think, it’s an opinion that I assume you guys from TDR will take positively. ;-)

ally77 said on :

@ Roxette-atic... yes I agree with you there the title looks good with the star for the x! :)

JoyRidErno said on :

@KixGuy

roxeteer is talented - VERY talented.

KixGuy said on :

@Joyriderno

I do believe he’s talented if you tell me that. Just ask him/her to show us his/her talent on the TDR design then! ;-)

roxtexanet said on :

What I like best about TDR both before and now is what it DOESN’T have: allowing every person to add 10 thousand pictures and things to their signature file so that when someone’s entire post consists of “LOL!” you have to scroll for 10 minutes to see the next reply! I’m glad that hasn’t changed - less is more. Just check out the Janet Jackson forum at janetjackson.com if you want to see how horribly wrong that can go.

roxtexanet said on :

@Judith: Could you add to your list that after posting a comment, you should be redirected to the last comment posted (i.e., your own) instead of the first page of comments (or did I just screw that up?)?? Thanks!

jorgerox said on :

Well done Visa! I like the new design. It’s more clear and simple, just like an online newspaper must be :)
Great work!

klair said on :

Sorry dears, but the layout (I can’t possibly use the word ’design’ cos there is none) is lame and very difficult on the eyes. I spent several moments being very lost until I realised where the navigation was! It fits on my screen ok, on my PC the serif font is harder to read, haven’t checked it on my mac yet.

I understand the need for a new system, but it will be a bit pointless if it turns people away. I am all for change, but people aren’t criticising change in the sense of, if the don’t like a particular colour just because it isn’t their ’thing’, they are criticising poor usability. I have been visiting this site since it was born and have continued to do so because, well, I enjoy visiting the site! I know there are limitations with any system, but if someone doesn’t attack the css and give it some ’ooomph’, then I am afraid I will have to rely on my friends to tell me the news instead.

joyrider said on :

Strange … and I always thought a re-design is an improvement.

JohnUK21 said on :

I have to say, this is AWFUL. Too much white space makes the Ad’s pop out and cover the page - with the actual content being hard to find.

It would have been nice if we were all asked what improvements we would like to have seen before you spent all this time putting it into this new format.

I’m very disappointed.

One good option would to have spent your efforts expanding the memeber profile option so that we could fill in little profiles about ourselves.

JohnUK21 said on :

Oh and I remember when TDR used to be GREEN!!

qrox said on :

Sorry, I don’t like it. As some other users say, it looks too cold, too structued. I’d change the fonts.

I find 2 things very annoying: I can’t see the differences between the forum and the news sections, the previous version diferentiated them very clearly. The other thing is that it’s hard to find who wrote each entry in the forums. Before reading the entries, I read who wrote them. Now it’s hard to see who added a comment. I liked the 2 columns version (like in SOAP forums).

There are some nice things though. The HTML tags and signature are fine.

I understand that you worked hard for this and you wanted to improve the site, but unfortunately I think you did just the opposite. Now it looks cheap, looks like it was made in Word. Everything is so white-and-blue, so serious, I’m not reading the New York Times, I’m reading TDR! It doesn’t feel like Roxette. I used to identify TDR with Roxette, but now, it seems like any other newspaper site (it seems that is what you wanted).

I want more colours and less sharp corners!

btw, where’s the older TDR Icon? What’s that blue thing?

whateveriam said on :

Can I ask the mods if they were taking bets on who specifically who didn’t like the update? Or just generally...well?

ally77 said on :

Well very said Klair... nice to see someone else in the UK voicing there opinion here!

You too John as well! :)

ally77 said on :

Actually I just remembered where I had seen something looking alike.... the BBC News Have Your Say section! That’s boring too!

Ferdan said on :

Haven’t read any replies so I dont get biased.

The Frontpage layout is kinda ok, but I dont like the way the news are separated from each other, is not well defined.
The forum layout is too constrained, the framing on the sides is distracting and takes a lot of “reading” space out.
I’m using 1280x1024
The fonts are difficult to read if the amount of text is big.

If I click on a thread I have already read, it should take me to the last unread post by default, or at least put a page navigation above the first post on the page, otherwise why should I have to scroll down to the last post just to change the page?

And it’s not that im “too used” to the Dailyroxette, since I allways been user of different forums.

And now the more subjective part of my comments: it looks ugly and not unique like it used to look before.

Sanna said on :

I don’t like it either.. sorry :( The previous one was clearer and easier to read, the new one feels a bit messy..

crashroxer said on :

I really DON’T like it!!!! The old one was better, Sorry.

gessleism said on :

Sorry, but I don´t like the new style of Dailyroxette. Everything is too small. I can´t read properly the messages in the forum.. please, change it back again !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

qrox said on :

I would add 3 things to the forums:
1 - When you reply someone’s comment, your comment text field should include the original text and the user you reply to.
2 - Add an “add comment” button to the bottom of the pages. If I read a page full of comments, I have to go to the top to add comment.
3 - One should be able to see others comments while writing one. Sometimes I quote and answers several posts. You may take as an example the SOAP forums.

Txiqui said on :

I really like the new desing, its simple and clear. Congrats to the daily rox team they are doing a great job!

FirstGirlOnTheMoon said on :

The white background doesn’t bother me much, because I’m a programmer and used to staring at black text on a white screen. LOL

I don’t know much about web-design, so I won’t say too much about layout and all of that. What I don’t like is the font used on the front page and in the discussions (I notice that the text in the reply box is different (looks like Arial, but I could be wrong)). Someone else mentioned Verdana as well, I also think that is a good font to use.

Also, I think the picture of Per and Marie in the top right corner is too big. It feels as if the picture takes up too much space.

The rest of the changes are things I can get used to.

Igor_M said on :

You’ve got -1 TDR reader.

Roxreporter said on :

Well, the lay out needed a change, it was the same for too long but these changes are too drastic.

Too much. A little change would have been better. It’s kinda cold. All the white.

LittleSpooky said on :

OH HELL YEAH!!!! THIS LOOKS GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anarem said on :

My user number is now “1141”? I think I’ve gone up a couple of thousand notches! :-)
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“No matter where you go, there you are.”

Pascal said on :

I like the old design much better, but maybe it’s just a matter of taste. It will take some time to get used to the new layout.

I’ve got 4 suggestions for Visa:

1) Delete the signatures. Signatures are very annoying.
2) Put lines around the replies/comments with a white background.
3) Make the grey background in the replies/comments lighter. At the moment the contrast with the white background is too big.
4) Put the navigation links with the different page numbers also on top of every first message. It’s not pretty to scroll to the bottom of the page in order to be able to get to the next page.

Pascal

whateveriam said on :

I like signatures...but yeah I think there should be links to pages both top and bottom...

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup...

’Even if I am in love with you. All this to say, what’s it to you?’

Ary-Sya said on :

I do not feel comfort now, everybody seems other persons, i must become accustomed myself again

Jud (moderator) said on :


qrox said on November 19, 2006 19:41:
2 - Add an “add comment” button to the bottom of the pages. If I read a page full of comments, I have to go to the top to add comment.

You can use the “reply” button which appears at the bottom of each answer. Your reply/comment will be automatically added at the bottom / after the last comment.

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Marlene said on :

When I first entered my thought was “What the ...???” But I am giving it another try right now and at second look I like it. In a few weeks I really will have a well trained scroll-finger. :-) Just for curiosity, why are the letters that big? I am not sure if one can read better now. But in the end it doesn’t bother me. A bit strange for me is that I have to preview my comments befor I can post them. But all in all, great work, thanks a lot. :-)

room-service said on :

When will the re-design of TDR be finished? I think I will get back then. Is it a mistake that it’s already online, this ’in process’-look is very confusing.

roxlad said on :

Changes are hard to accept and I must get used to this! If I can be honest, the good thing is that the text is bigger in higher resolutions and it’s easier to read but the white background is eye-tirering (eye-tiring...???? how do you write that!?!)... anyway one improvement that I can suggest is to separate the left, middle and right column in a more clear way so that you do highlight and direct the attention on the main middle column. If you take a look at en.wikipedia.org you can see that, even if they don’t use a lot of colours and bulky separators, you can clearly see where something begins and ends... here everything looks like it’s been placed in a hurry. Also do I have to preview evrytime before posting?

whateveriam said on :

I think it’s trying to make you think before you post

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup...

’Even if I am in love with you. All this to say, what’s it to you?’

ally77 said on :

I suppose the preview button is ideal for those non english speaking people to check what they wrote...

Jud (moderator) said on :

if you press ctrl+end you’ll go to the bottom of the page without having to scroll

strg+ende for German keyboards

-> way around until we get the navigation links on top as well :)
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ally77 said on :

I have a question....

What colour will an archived topic look like?

gyllene_tjej said on :

hmppfff... is the design here to stay? Rather cold and it reminds me too much of all the blogs it only takes a minute to make. I don’t want to sound bitter, but the new thing is absolutely NOT better...
I miss the yellow and the warmth we had both on trhe frontpage and on the forum...

but as I can see, I’m not the only one ranting ;)

Debora said on :

Well, I don’t like it at all.

Krischan said on :

The new layout fits the newspaper-like approach much better! I like it.

Santi said on :

After having used it for a while I think the font makes me far more tired than the previous one. You should try some sans-serif one that is easier to read on a screen.
I mean, ok it gives a very newspaper-like look to the whole stuff, but to read on a paper and to read on a screen are two quite different things. Maybe try some helvetica / verdana kind of thing.

It’s harder than the previous weird colour scheme :D

Marlene said on :

I don’t think that the preview thing prevents me from making mistakes. I write what I want to say, I re-read it and send it off. At least that’s what I did. Now I send it to preview and then send it off without a second re-reading. It’s just a bit annoying.

Debora said on :

I agree with Santi: the font is not easy to read.

Ary-Sya said on :

yes, it is. i’m not english and mistakes i make them a lot, but i check before i click to the button, it is just useless, but it sin’t such a big problem

kielroxer said on :

i like the frontpage. since this is a kind of newspaper, the outfit fits. but maybe the font can be changed? and something should be done in the forum, it is not very easy to get through the
forum. but i like white as backgroundcolour. for a first try not bad, but some changes (font, forum) maybe should be done. but i believe in you, dear tdr team!

ally77 said on :

The font is the biggest problem and also just the plain white background....

harriej said on :

awww, this new layout is a change which is not a good one....

for several reasons:
- I have not seen the possibility to edit your previous comments, as was possible before.
- The font that is used, gives me an headache if I look at it too long
- It is not that easy to read as the previous version.

Sorry for all the work that has been put in here, but this is a failure.
Back to the drawing table.

If it stays like this, I am not so sure I will visit TDR that often as I did, which is a shame, because it is (was?) the best source for Roxette-news.

Maybe i will come back to this comment later, although I don’t know how, since I haven’t seen the edit-button. So I would have to make a new reply.....

I give this a 2 (on a scale of 10); the old TDR a 8.5 (out of 10).

Emil__BG said on :

proba

Ferdan said on :

Another thing, the comments with white background are too blended too disguised, it´s difficult to visually associate them with the grey posts.

antz said on :

So is this a work in progress?

Please tell me this is just a test version to work out technical issues and that there is going to be some actual thought going into the re-design and usability of this site?

I am sorry but since when does Roxette use a star instead of the X? My favourite band in the world is NOT called Roette. Sorry it just does not work IMHO.

The only thing I like about this site is the picture of Roxette, but even that is to big and creates a third column which should’nt be there at all.

I have nothing further

Debora said on :

@ harriej and antz

I agree with both of you.

I like the star because it’s related with Roxette, but not in that place. As Antz said, I like Roxette and not Roette.

harriej said on :

Is it possible to start the page with comments with the newest replies?
Now you have to scroll through a lot of pages to see the last comment.

JoyRidErno said on :

Here are few chances I would like to see ;)

http://koti.mbnet.fi/oogesoft/roinaz/qwia/tdr_new_look.jpg

Emil__BG said on :

Emil__BG said on November 20, 2006 00:34:

1.the front page is give no information and don’t draw attention .... it’s like a page number 2333 of local newspaper...

2.maybe becouse of the pix of Per and Marie but the text from the news and topics takes up only 1/3 from page space ..and leaves wide white fields on both sides..

3.still can’t edit..

4.don’t see the last page from the topics and go page after page till the lsat one

5.the white background is clinical. cold and gives impression incompleteness!!!!

6.too much advertising

7. why i must first Preview my post and just after that i can post.?

Room_service said on :

Cool, the new design is as warm as a... frigde. Sorry. The big font used in the main page also looks pretty amateurish.

I never complained about the old design. It was OK for me. This design is way too cold, too much white. In addition, the Google ads are very evident and annoying at the same time.

Something that would be a improvement is if we could visualize the previous posts while are are writing a reply. That was not possible before, and it is not possible now either. That’s usefull if you wanna reply to many people, but you can’t memorize all that was said before.

And the “edit” function is pretty necessary too. We all need it back!

daniel_alv said on :

Sorry, don’t like the new design very much... The older was perfect...

And why change design just because you changed the system?

But the new logo is much better then the last one... Thumbs up for that...

AURYTE said on :

Well, I was thinking if I should comment the new design now or give it some time. Well, I gave this new design the whole day...

First of all, I know that you made this change for good and I really respect your efforts. On the other hand, I don’t think that the change was so needed. I mean, I was really happy with the previous design and could live with that at least other 7 years :) But when the rumours and signs were spreading about the new design, I was really hoping for an improvement, like new features will be added etc. And what we have now - lots of good things are lost. In the previous version members profiles contained more info about the user, the ads weren’t that evident and the whole design was way more warm.

No, I really don’t like this new The Daily Roxette. I don’t feel welcome here somehow. I prefer other Roxette sites in terms of design.

Ferdan said on :

by Auryte- No, I really don’t like this new The Daily Roxette. I don’t feel welcome here somehow.

Yes! that’s a good thing to point out... It doesn’t feel like a page that makes you feel “welcome” at all.

seba said on :

I’m so sorry to say this, but I don’t like it. It’s more difficult to read the messages. Please go back to the older layout.

Mary said on :

I didn’t even get to read aaallllll the comments here but... I kinda like it. Well, there could be still some things to be completed, such as more info in profiles and the editing, but I’m sure there will be still some progress in that. Keep up the good work!

RobS said on :

I don’t know why people are saying that there are “too many” ads? There is only one that i can see - it just stands out a little more than it did on the old site. - ok scrap that. I just realised my adblocker was blocking the ones on the left!

It would be nice to have the favicon a little star or similar again, but i’m sure that will come in time.

Although it probably won’t make a difference, i’ve done a little mockup myself of a few tweaks. I think it looks a little nicer gives you a little more room instead of having 3 columns. Will upload it soon.

If nothing else, i’d like like the font changed in the nav menu. It just looks wrong.

I’m sure with the suggestions everyone is giving, this could turn out to be very nice :-)

pwbbounce (moderator) said on :

Just noticed something else - the number of posts we’ve made it gone too.... :-( I hope this comes back. I like to see how sad I am!! lol

Hey Hey Hey

ditroia said on :

It’s all a bit too... meh!

I’m sure I’ll get used to it. But I think The site needs tweaking.

Cheers

Dave

Never Left The Joyride..
Visit http://www.roxette20.eu/

RobS said on :

It might not make a difference, but here’s my slightly tweaked version.

http://home.exetel.com.au/7twenty/tdr1.jpg
http://home.exetel.com.au/7twenty/tdr2.jpg

All I can say is how talented Visa is, being able to make the previous TDR and smalltalk that lasted so long and was well liked. Compared to a ready-coded backend, which will take a little bit of work to get it to the standard (from a users point of view) of the previous version.

DEFAULT_GREEN said on :

FONT = NOT GOOD

The one thing I liked about the other site was the form, it was clean and uncluttered,

having the list instead of the column view you had in the previous version is not good. I like the
way you read the old forum, user then subects then details now its all in one column moving down so its hard to see quickly who the person was who posted the topic stuff like that

PiterPam said on :

Hmm you have your reasons to change the layout. But for me, it looks soo bad. it´s like an amateur site, i liked the orange version much better. It´s hard to read and boring.

per_mson said on :

No offense, but I think the page looks 5 years older then it did before the “update”. The forum is very hard to read properly and it looks like it is only half finished. The ads for instance take up way too much space of the page and the choice of font and font size I also find not so very good. Using blue, underlined for links is something one did before one could actually change the looks of the HTML documents.
Please give us back the old TDR again! Was sooooo much better! :-/

imazombieinthem... said on :

some/most are the same, just getting my point across also..
Ive done web page design.

white background - blinding
text - very plain, ugly, not exciting too read
Im an 800x600 user, screen scrolls off after half of Maries head.
Sideway scrollbars are ugly and make any website look like it has sloppy coding.
With a massive logo and large Per/Marie pic there is no chance of even having the screen fit a smaller resolution.
Add more colour. It looks empty with all the white.
Google ads - too high. JoyRidErno design is a step in the right direction.
Per/Marie pic on left and put google ads underneath so you see them only when you scroll down.
thats enough for now :P
And get rid of that star replacing the x in Roxette. Copy JoyRidErno’s logo!

Marlene said on :

What about links? They don’t work for me any more. I mean, just click at them and there you are. Now I’ve got to copy and paste them into my browser. Is this one of the ’still to do things’ or is it planed to be this way?

pwbbounce (moderator) said on :

As with any new ’thing’, there are bound to be ’settling in’ problems. It’s a shame that they didn’t wait abit longer to refine some things before changing over, but they were probably expecting some feedback from us. Well, they certainly got that didn’t they!!!

I think over the next few days we’ll see some of the old things returning like “Edit your post” etc. I really hope the number of posts function comes back, with our old numbers on still!!!!

Sascha said on :

As a big fan of TDR I was really looking forward to the relaunch cause I expected some nice enhancements to come. But now I’m sorry to join the disappointed crowd.

For the user there’s currently no enhancement in functionality (beside the search field) and the design is a huge step back. Is it meant to stay that way or just a work-in-progress?

I’m sure there are hundreds of solutions to enhance this new version to get even better than the old one and some users already gave good ideas! If Visa and the team told us about their plans and intentions for TDR ’07 I’d be happy to help out with ideas or inspirations.

TDR was and still is the #1 source for Roxette news worldwide – we should keep that status alive! :-)

Starrox said on :

Just tried to read this closed thread and only got to see the first post. Is that a bug or is it supposed to be that way?

Jud (moderator) said on :

my mistake!!
There are two options to close a topic and I chose the wrong one :)

Now it should be fine - closed but with all comments there.

Btw, somebody said that there is no number of posts for each topic to be seen.. but there is one:
Topic | Replies | Created | Last reply

of you mean in the profile? :)

>>> testing EDIT button
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harriej said on :

If I read all the replies I have the impression (or actually I am quit sure) that most people who have replied are not so happy with the new design and prefer the old design.
Did somebody already count how many people are pro and contra the new design?

Maybe it would be a good thing to change back to the old TDR-design?

Or is that not possible anymore?
(No backup of the old one?).

Starrox said on :

Hmm, weird... I tried to edit my first post in this thread and add the missing “at” in “at all”, but it ended up being a new post?!

Debora said on :

Yes, that’s a good point.

Anyway, I think there’s no chance to return to the old TDR. But please, at least change the font, this one is almost impossible to read.

Jud (moderator) said on :

starrox: I edited my previous post (see added comment) and it didn’t add an entry, it edited it.. :S

could you try again? thx!
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harriej said on :

A change is only needed IMHO if it is a change that is better then the old one.
And for a lot of people here (I think the majority) it is not an improvement....

JoyRidErno said on :

Some improvement has happened... Font has not changed... :/

Btw... I logged in yesterday and I’m still logged in...? There is not auto-out-logging system..?

Jud (moderator) said on :

hm.. weird, I can still edit it.. I don’t know why if you edit something it moves the comment to the end but it didn’t happen with me :S

edit 1
edit 2
edit 3
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Starrox said on :

I wish I could, Judith, but it seems my post was moved to the end of the current thread and I deleted my post from yesterday by editing it again! *sighs*

ETA: And the weirdest thing of it all is that the post somehow can’t be edited anymore!
—-

Starrox said on November 20, 2006 23:01:

@Judith: Ah, ok - you must have closed the thread right when I decided to read it, so I was a bit confused at first... ;-)

And I see the edit function is back - Thanks!

Reply | Edit

Starrox said on November 20, 2006 23:04:

Hmm, weird... I tried to edit my first post in this thread and add the missing “at” in “at all”, but it ended up being a new post?!

Reply

ETA2: And what’s wrong with the time setting? No matter which timezone I choose in my profile, I always end up seeing the current time in Finland... ;-)

Starrox said on :

Is there maybe a limit to the number of times you can edit a post? That would explain why “Edit” is missing from two of my posts and not from others in this thread!

crashroxer said on :

I never thought I would say it: But, the old version was really PERFECT!!!

I’m so sorry TDR, but I really don’t like it!

Starrox said on :

@Judith: Ah, ok - you must have closed the thread right when I decided to read it, so I was a bit confused at first... ;-)

And I see the edit function is back - Thanks!

ETA: Just trying to see if my theory is correct...

ETA again: OK, it seems that once a post is older than a couple of minutes when you edit it, it gets moved to the end of the thread - very annoying IMHO!

Jud (moderator) said on :

mm do you see a “Authored on” and a time (to edit) when you edit a post?
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Starrox said on :

No, just “xy said on (date & time)”!

AURYTE said on :

I still miss the old version.

Galadriel said on :

Only 2 things, that I noticed, maybe later more:

- the moderator/administrator label is gone. Do you wanna hide? ;-)
- apart from getting a better “contour” on the posts with the white background: the signature should be better “seperated” from the content of the post

-> it’s not so easy to distinguish text/sig

Edit1: Testing the EDIT...
Edit2: Haha, very funny -> the Edit-function moved my complete yesterday’s post (= all above “Edit1”, 20.11. ~10AM) to the end of the topic as a new reply (btw. I pressed “preview comment” before posting the changed content)

RobS said on :

yay, the favicon is fixed :-)

I hope the edit issue can be fixed. That sounds a little annoying.

Is it possible to have the thread title clickable? As i find myself (at least i used to on the old site) opening up the thread in a new tab to re-read as i write my post.

A little divider is needed for the sigs (or get rid of them completely ;-) quite a few times i’ve ended up reading the sig, very annoying.

And what’s the situation with the post times?? they aren’t in local time, even though i have changed that in my user settings.

Nice to see things are happening slowly... 2 things are ticked off my list already :-)

qrox said on :

I see there are a few improvements here. That’s great!

I would add something else: The last edit date. In the old version, we could tell when someone edited their comments, but now, it’s not possible and it may be confusing.

I would also like to see the way the comments are ordered a customizable feature. That way you don’t have to reorder de posts to see them the way you like.

Oh, something else! When you post a comment, you are redirected to the first page of the topic you are posting. You should be redirected to the last page, I think.

miss-misery said on :

Well, I don’t want to be complaining all the time, but...
I used to find quite useful when you could go from a forum to another without going to the general “discussions”, which now is completely impossible. If you want to move from “International” to “TDR Discussions”, you have to go back to discussions and then choose the other forum. In the old Small Talk (Hey, it’s not called like that anymore, I don’t like this either!!!) you could go directly.
Edit: I had to try this, LOL. And by the way, why don’t I go straight to my own comment after posting? Why do I have to go back to the first comment compulsory??

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Marlene said on :

Thanks for making it possible that comments can be posted directly without previewing them first. :-)

JoyRidErno said on :

I’m still logged in!?!?! I’m logged in like forever..? (Yes, I know the log out button ;) This is kinda security issue..?

And that red-yellow box which say “NEW” is ugly... :s

roxeteer (moderator) said on :

JoyRidErno, you’ve been reading too much scary tales. Many websites keep you logged in until you deliberately sign out. If you’re using a shared computer, you should always log out after using a site and not expect the session to expire for you. And you can’t call the contents of TDR such that it would need high level of security.

Is there anything in this layout that you didn’t think ugly? Is there anything good in the fact that the site is now actually able to show which comments are new?

qrox said on :

Yes!!!!
Subscribe as RSS Feed!!
I love that, It’s the best thing you could have done!
Now I can receive all the new post in Google Reader!!
Great!

Sascha said on :

Now there is a forum switch button! :-) Some ideas:

Regarding the TDR logo:
- the shadow doesn’t make much sense with the “Y” sticking out. I’d kill it.
- the red star seperates the word Ro*ette too much into 2 pieces. I’d move the star between Daily and Roxette.

Regarding the whole site layout:
- it looks a bit messy at the top. My solution would be to move the grey line under the TDR logo and use it for the navigation and search (if the system allows it), then center the logo at the top.
- the right column is really too space consuming: The width of the left column should be enough.

Thanx for your time and energy, Visa! :-) Sascha

Jud (moderator) said on :

since nobody is going to say so:

thanks Visa for the FAST additions you made in the last 2 days!!!

- drop down to jump from forum to forum
- edit button for all to be able to do that: edit their posts :)
- page navigation links on top of the comments
- “new” icon on each new post since your last visit
- adding the “post comment” button (besides the “preview comment” button)

to mention a few :)

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miss-misery said on :

Yeah, Visa, you’re very quick, thank you :D I just wanted to know why isn’t this section called Smalltalk anymore.
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TinyBubbles said on :

*sigh* I dont like it either. But i always resist change. Already getting used to it after just one day. But yeah, i too will miss the old version a great deal :(

..nothing ever lasts forever..

i dont know who asked it but “what colour will the archived threads be” was the funniest comment i’ve read in a long time hahahhaaa thanks for that whoever..

per_mson said on :

Well, I haven’t gotten used to the page and probably I will not either. Sadly enough I think it will mean less visits for me here. :-/

ally77 said on :

It was me TB... you can’t actually tell what has been closed and what has not until you go in the topic....

Hands up if your missing that grey already! :)

JoyRidErno said on :

@roxeteer

Don’t get me wrong. I still think this update is a good thing - it just needs some work :) And I’m still learning this session thing and I didn’t, and still don’t, exactly know how they work. Problem is not big while I use my own computer, but I guess I should remember to log out while using a shared computer as you said.

“Is there anything in this layout that you didn’t think ugly?” Thinking this whole site there are much improvements like logo and “user bar” - I like them. But on the other hand this forum is still cold and not so easy to use than the old one. I already mentioned the font problem. I guess you like it, but I don’t and I’m not the only one :/ And these post are separated with black line, but there are no black line on right or left. I makes this look like it’s broken or something. But it’s just my opinion :)

And it’s ok to see what post are new, but isn’t the color contrast too big? Black and white and then box is yellow and red?

I have several times coded something like I want it, but then guys who use it want it on the other way. Sometimes it’s hard to do some “stupid” changes, but I try to see it that way they might see it even better than me. You can do these things way better than me and I hope you keep on listening fans, they are not always right, but they might have good ideas :)

Jud (moderator) said on :

Ally said:

It was me TB... you can’t actually tell what has been closed and what has not until you go in the topic....
Hands up if your missing that grey already! :)

There is an icon next to each topic. When the topic is closed, the icon gets a LOCK. I think it’s visible enough :)

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Debora said on :

I agree with Sascha about the star. It would be nice if it is moved between Daily and Roxette.

Emil__BG said on :

First thanks for trying to make better site and for hard work..
but small things make good thinks look bad...

Judith
Can you in brief say what’s is better in a members point of view ,cos i don’t see nothing better...
Who wanted what and what in the end you did it?????
Will be more features like pix for example?-What about sonofaplumber.com as example?

From green to yellow kind of forum was hard ,but only becouse of a colour an memories...and it takes only 2-3 days..

But the more a look at this white sterility it gets harder and harder...

I even don’t wanna read and write here...
It’s like rough copy of a forum..
Maybe you wanna make it look like a newspaper ,but even on-line newspapewers try to not look like a newspaper..

It maybe good for the front page –on-line newspaper page ......but i doubt it...
It don’t get attention..
The no white site of a colouruful band like Roxette :-))

1.adds a few but whwn you read them on every page –it’s annoying..
2.the post area is small and there 2 big white areas on both sides
3. the picture of Roxette is no needed on EVERY page!!
4. what is the purpose of REPLY botton in every post?
5.while it returns to firs page and not to the last after replay?

ally77 said on :

Yeah but Judith that grey just looked so nice.... it made the forum! lol

whateveriam said on :

And those locks ain’t THAT big...I had to do a double take each time!

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup...

’Even if I am in love with you. All this to say, what’s it to you?’

MiracleMan said on :

Just logged on for the first time since the change. I think I rather like the new look, but I haven’t had that much time to run around yet because I’m having a HUGE issue with the springform design.

All that stuff to the right of the screen—that lovely pic of Per & Marie, etc.—accordians in on top of everything in the center. My screen isn’t wide enough to accomodate everything, forcing me to physically shift the widow to the left so that I can elongate it enough to get all that rightscreen static info off to the right and doesn’t block anything. Then I have to physically shift the window back to the center so I can, for instance, type this comment, or read anything in center area. FRUSTRATING!

I’d love to be able to more fully appreciate the new design, and to be able to use it, get used to it, but short of making that accordianing info on the right stationary—or getting a new computer, which isn’t in the budget at the moment—I don’t know if I’ll be able to enjoy the site as much as I once did.

just_like_that said on :

Wow! thought i got directed to the wrong page then!
Looks great!

crazy said on :

I’m sorry but i don’t like new design. It seems to me so disordered and this font make me headache.
ok, I like the red star in roxette name...

qrox said on :

Would it be too much to ask for some kind of hint or sign for the new posts in a thread?
I have to read a lot of posts to find a new one and start reading from there.
After writing the comment above, I found that there is a hint for new posts! I swear it wasn’t there a few moments ago...
Well, the following is still valid...

Other way to achieve it is going directly to the first new post in a thread through the “xx new posts” link next to the topics titles. In topics like this one, I have to browse to the 6th page and then there, look for the new posts. That’s very annoing. I know you couldn’t do this in the previous version, but it would certainly be a mayor improvement in the navigation.

Wow, I feel like a beta tester!

coyboyusa said on :

maybe it’s just me but tev kinda has an ego when it comes to the inside stuff eh knows about roxette and any of our opinions period, the simple fact is while on an administrative side things are better i can’t imaging the giggle the look of the new site gets from new visitors who see something that looks like a yahoo groups page...christ roxette.se look less ammaturish :(

whateveriam said on :

Ouch!

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup...

’Even if I am in love with you. All this to say, what’s it to you?’

Galadriel said on :

I just noticed the “Other articles with the same topic” feature.
What criteria are used to build up these lists?

Because:
in this topic “Roxette keeps fighting the IRS” (for example) the listed articles do have in common to be articles about Roxette, but not about the “taxes-story”. This is not very specific.

roxeteer (moderator) said on :

The list is (currently) based solely on the category/categories of the article.

JoyRidErno said on :

http://www2.dailyroxette.com/node/1546 some thoughts when this site was last changed... I miss those days <3

joyrider said on :

Back then, in 2001, I called the new design “a mix of sunshine and honey, warm atmosphere...”, well things and time have changed and which atmosphere-methaphor is right for the latest design and interface? In my (graphic designer-) opinion I would go for “Bathroom of a Russian Hospital”. Sorry.

whateveriam said on :

Heheheh...yeah it’s um, bleak...

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup...’Even if I am in love with you. All this to say, what’s it to you?’

Ferdan said on :

Does this engine support custom colour schemes?

Mari said on :

The frontpage looks a bit better now, but the CDON box doesen’t look nice. Is there any idea to move box to left side of page or maybe change green color?

Marlene said on :

Meanwhile I am totally used to it. Especally the Discussions are nice to navigate. :-) And I don’t complain that I have to scroll more due to bigger letters. Not since I’ve seen this: http://worlds-highest-website.com/ O_o

qrox said on :

@All the users: Since the new forums allows the use of the <a> tag, it would be nice if we start using it when we paste URLs. That way we won’t have to copy and paste the URLs into a new browser windows.

That’s just a suggestions. I’ve seen several URLs without links since the redesign and it would be a shame to waste the opportunity to use them...

@Visa:
Have you noticed the way the <a> tag behaves? If the “href” you use doesn’t begin with “http://” the link directs you to http://www2.dailyroxette.com/comment/reply/YOUR_URL_HERE.
Is that OK?

Sascha said on :

Couldn’t the URLs just work automatically again, like in the old version? And all the other forums I use have buttons for HTML tags, here we have to copy and paste all the time. Is there a workaround?

Emil__BG said on :

joyrider said on November 23, 2006 22:57:

Back then, in 2001, I called the new design “a mix of sunshine and honey, warm atmosphere...”, well things and time have changed and which atmosphere-methaphor is right for the latest design and interface? In my (graphic designer-) opinion I would go for “Bathroom of a Russian Hospital”. Sorry.

well said..
but i would say not russian –more correct– psychic hospital..

Galadriel said on :

@qrox: Thank you for the hint about the “a” tag! As I am not familiar with these things it’s only trial and error when I use those...

miss-misery said on :

I still miss the information that used to be about the contacts.
I wouldn’t like to appear as complaining all the time, but I really think that if you redesing a web, at least the same services and information that used to show up there should remain.
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“A little sincerity is a dangerous thing, and a great deal of it is absolutely fatal” (Oscar Wilde)

tevensso (moderator) said on :

I would think that Visa will put it back whenever time permits. :)

JohnUK21 said on :

I still don’t like it... I’m really sorry. But I don’t even want to visit TDR anymore, it’s too confusing.

administrator (moderator) said on :

Have you noticed the way the <a> tag behaves? If the “href” you use doesn’t begin with “http://” the link directs you to http://www2.dailyroxette.com/comment/reply/YOUR_URL_HERE.
Is that OK?

That’s how the A tag always behaves.

thenicekai said on :

Short question: Who exactly hides behind the nick administrator? Visa?

I’m just curious... :-)

Keep on thinking.

tevensso (moderator) said on :

Surely Visa.

roxeteer (moderator) said on :

Whoops, sorry. Yes, that was me. There are some functionalities that are only accessible with the administrator user account and I didn’t remember I was logged in with that account when I replied.

Marlene said on :

Just testing the thing...
Rox

Marlene said on :

That’s easy. :-) Thanks to the one above for mentioning it.

Wicf said on :

The new design sucks... I have nothing more to say about it

Emil__BG said on :

Тhe Roxette picture and ROXBOX-advertisement still stays in front of topics–and you can’t see the name of the topic,who wrote the topic and how many replays were made.

roxeteer (moderator) said on :

In which browser does it happen? I’m not able to reproduce the problem.

RobS said on :

Things are getting ticked off slowly :-)

Page Navigation - done
Post now button - done
Favicon - done
Skip to Forum - done

Old user data - would be nice if the username was listed on the page as well instead of just the title bar.
Thread title hyperlink
Local time on posts
Nav Menu and font
Goto last post after posting comment

Doesn’t look like “smalltalk” is coming back. I can live with that :-)

Good to see things are slowly being added. Nice work Visa.

per_mson said on :

@RobS: Yep, the features seem to be added little by little. But it would be better to do something about this amateur looks first IMHO.

P-p-p-pelle said on :

Can someone please change the time? It seems the system’s having a finnish time schedule ... or am I completely confused?

Emil__BG said on :

roxeteer (moderator)
In which browser does it happen? I’m not able to reproduce the problem.

====Internet explorer 5
800 by 600 pixels

I don’t see the point in that picture and Roxbox ads on EVERY PAGE!!!
i have bought already 2 boxes,i think it’s enough :-))
maybe on first page it’s ok or with small size and NOT IT THE FIELD FOR TOPICS
Now the forum loks
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like a picture made by child
....

“But it would be better to do something about this amateur looks first IMHO.”!!!!
white backcolour and this picture and ads are parts of this amateur look

What is the point of ” Reply ” botton in EVERY comment if nobody can’t see that you replay this member????
And what if you just wanna replay to the subject not member?

and why after someone post comment it goes to the first page of topic ,not the last one ,and you can’t see your coment..

Best wishes

Emil__BG said on :

in our topic Bulgaria there is page 86 ,but there no comments...!?

miss-misery said on :

I was thinking... Still no much information in the profiles. In my humble opinion, there should be at least the same information as it used to be. I guess this will be solved in some time.
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“A little sincerity is a dangerous thing, and a great deal of it is absolutely fatal” (Oscar Wilde)

Sascha said on :

Visa, could you please put the current site “position” like for example “Discussions: TDR Discussions:” at the bottom of the page as well? Would make it easer to switch to another thread of the same board.

RobS said on :

Is there any reason that the page has been squashed? I know a few people were saying that the page wouldn’t fit on an 800x600 display, but is it possible to have the page auto-adjust to your screen size?

imazombieinthem... said on :

That wont be possible until they shrink the the size of awful ’The Daily Ro*ette’ logo and the Per/Marie pic which would/or does just scroll off the screen off anyway.

If I made this site and got the feedback thats on these pages, I would of fixed colours/text/the whole thing quick smart to please the readers before they run off. It hasnt been done and people are deserting this place. Sad.

Emil__BG said on :

Nobody seems to care...

but somebody already don’t even read TDR...

Galadriel said on :

One more thing, if it wasn’t mentioned before:
the underlined numbers of the “page numbering” look a bit weird. The lines are not always at the bottom of the numbers, so some look like being “canceled” instead of “underlined”.

Sascha said on :

Could it be that TDR reacts much faster when not logged in? It’s been quite slow for me in the last weeks but when logged out it works snappy...

roxeteer (moderator) said on :

There may very well be a difference in speed of loading the pages while logged in. For anonymous users (logged out, that is) we can cache the pages on the server aggresively because everyone will see the pages exactly the same. However, for each logged in user, pages are customized (the username on the top right corner, unread comments marked as new, etc.) and thus the pages can’t be fully cached.

Sascha said on :

Thanx for the info! Never had this issue with other websites/forums.

If you don’t intend to change the general font to a better readable (and less ugly ;-) ) one, could you at least change the page navigation font, like Galadriel suggested? :-)

fabian said on :

Oh my gosh...

Please do something with this dreadful layout. it’s messy and I can’t seem to find thinsg around here.

Honestly, this place as lost its charm. Those adds banner on the sides look very prominent right now, I can survive the green and found it hard at first with orange, but I live on.

This black and white is such an eyesore. sorry for being honest. Hope this beta thing gets wrapped up soon. Thank you.

Galadriel said on :

When I am not logged in, the “Last post”-time doesn’t seem to be updated, as long as no new entry was written. (e.g. “last post 2min ago”; but 30min later still 2min is displayed)
Is this intended to be so, or could it be a local (my own) problem?

Emil__BG said on :

when we click on “1 new” ,we must go to that one new message ,not to the first page of the topic ,as here

The Pop Hits said on :

to be honest I hate these new forums...!!
What a lame layout. I will never get used to this.

na na na na na

tevensso (moderator) said on :

So don’t post here?

ATLTK said on :

@Tev can you for once listen to the public opinnion instad of posting sarcastic comments.. we dont like the layout - no one does so change it or make it better!
merry christmas everyone!!!

tevensso (moderator) said on :

No

whateveriam said on :

Well, I suppose it means less moderating work for you guys if there’s less people here.

But, don’t you want that?

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup...

’Even if I am in love with you. All this to say, what’s it to you?’

qrox said on :

I was one of those that didn’t like the layout change, but I must confess that I got used to it very fast!

There are still a few things to fix, but I’m sure Visa is working on them.

Sascha said on :

I Hope so. Since I love TDR as a “person” but not it’s current “clothes”.

whateveriam said on :

Here here. I’ve given it a while, and the layout is tolerable. I’m still not jumping up and down about it, but you can’t win ’em al!

Meddle not in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and good with ketchup...

’Even if I am in love with you. All this to say, what’s it to you?’

Emil__BG said on :

Still can’t use to it.
Even if we forget about “the layout ” some things still don’t work correct.

SOAP and GT forums look and work much better..
Or you thinking to change them too??

The Pop Hits said on :

roxeteer oh pls make us a favor and bring the “old” TDR back.

na na na na na

The Pop Hits said on :

can´t you even make the links ppl are posting active? Whats the point of a link if you cant click it and open it?
How annoying.

na na na na na

qrox said on :

“Active forum topics”
Interesting idea. May be useful...
A suggestion: Make a box like that with the last topics opened by the user. That way, you can track your own topics easily.

RobS said on :

Just noticed that 3 more items have been ticked off my list

Old user data is back.
And the username is listed on the user info page as well instead of just the title bar.
Local time is now on posts.

Great work Visa, keep it coming :-)

roxtexanet said on :

Are people really still going on about the new site design??!!?! I just wanted to post about some things I LIKE about the new site that the old one never had (if I’m allowed to do something other than complain, that is):

* love the “Active forum topics” - I never go off-topic or to any of the other forums, but now that the subject lines pop up for active topics I’m visiting these ones more

* love that we get to see the comment we’re replying to when we type our reply

* love that we get to see the new replies since our last visit (and not just that the thread has had new replies)

* love that we can navigate to the next or previous thread from within the thread instead of having to go back to the forum

roxeteer (moderator) said on :

Roxtexanet, thanks. We’re doing our best.

roxgirl_germany said on :

After giving this quite some time to get used to the change, I cannot help but still hating the new layout. I am sure it was a hell of work for Visa but the white background is really user-unfriendly. Never I have been so untempted to read this page and the forums in my whole life. (I pop in to get a quick update on the news section and off I am...)

Much as I hate orange, I really miss the old TDR.

It almost seems as if you wanted to scare people away (to save traffic or so).

Do you have any statistics that shows how many people visited the site before the change and now?

Also, it would be helpful if there was a “new” button in threads with new answers and by clicking “new”, you could directly see the new answers instead of having to scroll through the whole page. (I keep ignoring the current “new”.)

roxeteer (moderator) said on :

If you want statistics, statistics you will get.

fabian said on :

I just hope that the people who got elected to be moderators of the board are at least courteous to the comments that were posted by the members. If people like tevensso, who responded lamely as to saying ’Don’t post here?’ is the people that I saw moderating the board, then I’m sorry that more people will be pissed and eventually ran away from the place. Sorry for being rude, but we as members have rights to say things too. And I hope this post don’t get modded by the powers that may be.

You can see that I’ve been a long time member here if you happen to click on my profile. I’ve seen changes and knew quite a few people from this place. Yes, changes are good and I accept that it is bound to happen. But ignoring the sentiment of a lot of people is just plain arrogant and rude. There I said it.

Sorry to make it very bad especially at this time of year. And I’m sorry if anybody is offended (well, too bad if you do).

roxgirl_germany said on :

Thanks for the statistics.

Galadriel said on :

In the topic “Add profile information” I was wondering about the item “number of forum topics” in the profile, because I couldn’t remember ever having started a topic.

But meanwhile I found the reason why there’s the information that I started a topic in my profile:
The topic “Remember this singer...?” got mixed up somehow. (http://www2.dailyroxette.com/node/14735)
I am shown as submitter, although my reply (Galadriel said on August 25, 2006 11:36:) is actually the last one. The real submitter of the topic was marcusvandeursen (August 23, 2006 21:37).
Did this happen to some of the topics because of the switch? Or did things like that happen before and there’s another reason?

When I think a bit more intensely about it, I remember that I saw some (older) topics where the first (initial) post makes absolutely no sense, and is supposedly (also) one of the replies instead.
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Something else:
The “formatting options” have been removed? Why?

roxeteer (moderator) said on :

Taken that there were 300,000 comments to be moved, I guess it was guaranteed that something will go wrong. I can’t say why that has happened.

Room_service said on :

Could somebody tell me how to post links that work properly? Because they don’t open. I see some people post links that work, but I don’t know how.

sweepi said on :

Also, well, don’t know if this has been asked/suggested before (haven’t gone through all the 9 pages yet), and then I’m sorry for any mistake in my wording, as I don’t know the proper technical designation for this :-P (still I hope you’ll be able to understand what I’m referring to), but anyways; wouldn’t it be possible (and then positive) to include the “navigation links” to the comments pages in the news section (those links which allow us to navigate through the comments pages, those, where it says “1 | 2 | 3 ... next > last >>”) also right above the first comment in each page (just like it’s been done for the forum section), instead of having them only below every last comment at the end of the pages?... So one would be “spared” the scrolling... :-P (I’m only sorry again, if this was something too stupid to ask/suggest...)

Roxer_Only said on :

hum. maybe i ain’t ever pleased either, but i was in the last layout.. sorry.

but you all know, things have to change and maybe not the better way. well, we have all our taste too. it can’t fit everybody.
the new fasion is just that everything shall not be personal and it shall be stiff.

so i guess it’s just to smile, be happy and have fun

sommartiderhejhej said on :

Unfortunately, this place does not feel welcome anymore.
It used to feel welcome, but the new layout change is the worst that has happened to this website, since I know it.
The biggest mistake possible.

RobS said on :

I think i might have posted this before, but is there any chance the site can be changed so it either is displayed in the centre of the screen, or even better auto-adjusts to fit the whole screen?

Also is it possible after you sign in you are returned back to the page you came from rather than your user profile. I think that is quite pointless.

I have to say that i have gotten used to the new look. I still don’t like it as much as the older style and i would still like to see some changes, but it’s slowly getting there.

I also find the site looks a lot nicer using Windows Vista/IE7 rather than in XP, might be just me though?!

JoyRidErno said on :

It’s been almost year now... (and I still don’t understand this “upgrade”)

Here are some notes..

1. When you log in it would be good to get back to page that you were reading before you decided to log in. It is _very_ annoying when you just see your own profile...

2. This whole site is very slow/laggy when you are logged in, so you have to log out if you want to continue using site in normal speed.. And then you see something that needs to be replied... so number 1 again... (Don’t blame machine, when it’s human who runs business.)

3. Forum is not as good as the old one was. Basic problems are font and big white areas...

Still there are some upgrades that I really like, but if I could now move back to old-orange-looking site, I would do that. But logo is good :)

RobS said on :

I just noticed that the login page now goes to the previous visited page :-)

I just done a very quick mock up of what i’d like to see. It’s basically just changing the white background to a very light grey with a gradient fill out toward the edges and the page centred.

I don’t know how much work that would be, it would make it a little easier on the eyes if nothing else.

Nice to see things are still getting worked on slowly :-)

Sascha said on :

Argh, last night I dreamed that TDR went offline and was replaced by some random music site! In my dream it was somewhat the only rox website around and we had to search for a replacement. What a sad thought! ;-(

I just see the the new amazon banner, I hope a good deal for TDR. Can we except some layout/color enhancements in the near term?

JoyRidErno said on :

>I just noticed that the login page now goes to the previous visited page :-)

I still got the profile page..?

One think came to my mind.. This CDON banner, or what ever it is, is useless. How could I use it when it directs me away from TDR? I think it would be better if it opened CDON’s page to new tab/browser.

modernatidergt25 said on :

hello there...... new person here........how are you??

pwbbounce (moderator) said on :

Well hello!! WELCOME TO TDR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Where are you from??

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http://www.myspace.com/pwbbounce

RobS said on :

JoyRidErno said: “I still got the profile page..?”

I just tried it again and i got the profile page. Maybe i was dreaming, i was pretty tired that day if i recall.

modernatidergt25 said on :

Thanks for your welcome !!!! :):), If you thought that all the existing fans were already registered, you were wrong, because it was me still out there . For long I have been visiting many web sites about roxette, but now I have decided to become a member, finally. ;)

Eveeliiiinaa said on :

hmm i think that this layout is a little bit boring maybe something more... softer?
but i love this site anyway..

Lennon said on :

I am used to it now.
Keep it simple...

–
Download our songs:
http://www.melancholodic.de

Sascha said on :

Can we expect some changes/enhancements for TDR some time? Haven’t seen Visa here for a long long time...

roxeteer (moderator) said on :

I wouldn’t hold my breath.

Sascha said on :

Hi, nice to see you checking tdr! I understand you don’t want to relaunch the whole thing again but I think some small design enhancements could make a big difference and give tdr a “warmer” feeling again. Maybe just some different background colors, logo or a regularly changing Roxette photo. In the past the lyrics phrases gave a nice touch! If you’re interested, I could help out with some graphics.

Some of my work: www.k-konzept.de > anklopfen > whodunit

Sascha said on :

*double post*

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