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Matrix - Reloaded!!
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Jackie_Radiorox said on May 17, 2003 02:44:
YAY!! Gonna see it tomorrow!!!
A friend of mine told me it ends abruptly. :/ But! You get to see Keanu’s butt.. Always a nice thing. ;)
I just hope the next one comes out soon!
Anarem said on May 17, 2003 11:17:
The next one comes out in November.
When you think about it, it isn’t so bad!
Jackeill said on May 17, 2003 11:21:
gonna se it on its premiere in poland 23.05 lol i can’t wait anymore ;) however i have read reviews and they say that first one was better :/
Twilight-Ghost said on May 17, 2003 12:51:
I just saw it and I love it. It’s true, it ends abruptly. I love it. It has really cool fight and chase scenes, and I love the part when Neo was trying to save Trinity ........ I guess I have to end it here before I get to spoil it for all of you.
coyboyusa said on May 17, 2003 16:00:
it doesnt end its to be continued if you stay after the closing credits there is a preview ofthe next movie..i am debating whether to see matrix again this weekend or see xmen too cause grrrowl hugh jackman :)
Jackie_Radiorox said on May 17, 2003 18:39:
Seen X-men twice.. awesome movie.
*checks time* 2 hrs and 45 mins until Matrix starts! WOO HOO!
ally77 said on May 17, 2003 20:15:
I have still not seen the first one.... I watched bits of it.... it is being shown on UK TV this week so guess I will get round to watching it all the way through.....
LittleSpooky said on May 18, 2003 10:20:
Seen it, gonna see it again, hopefully this time without some jerk*** talking through it. That irritates the crap out of me.
kachina008 said on May 18, 2003 11:17:
loved it loved it loved it.
need to see it again tho, to understand it :P
the jokes were a little corny :P
Emil__BG said on May 18, 2003 21:57:
I wached it today ,and i like it!!!
i watched in the morning the first episod on my DVD player and than go to see second one...
so i was the Matrix day for me:-))
it’s better than X-men-2–there is a story,the whole new world,we must think about all that,not just to watch the action ...
...there is a hiden meaning in everything they says...;-))
Jackie_Radiorox said on May 19, 2003 01:30:
I seen it!
It was okay, the first one was way better. Excellent chase and fight scenes yes!
zeeshan said on May 19, 2003 09:30:
Simply rox!! it simply rocks!!!!! The most amazing fight scenes has to with AGENT SMITH after Neo met Oracle. How the hell did they do that!? amazing!
Jackeill said on May 19, 2003 11:15:
for me 4 days left to go... i heard it’s weak and first part was a lot better :/ anyway, gonna see it with my own eyes ;)
Jackie_Radiorox said on May 19, 2003 13:41:
Trinity’s motorcycle scene was awesome. Oh and the “kiss” scene. ;) You guys will know what I mean when you see it. Trinity is a trip and a half there... hehehe!
clerk said on May 19, 2003 14:17:
I’m going to see it tonight! So tomorrow I’ll let you know what I think of it..
rox-kuryliw said on May 19, 2003 15:32:
you know what i didnt understand the first one, so ill be no good at the second lol
ill stick with harry potter for me, i understand that lol.
Jackie_Radiorox said on May 19, 2003 18:46:
Oi! If you didnm’t understand part one, stay away from PArt two... I can’t wait until it hits DVD to get a dictionary and be like “SAY WHAT?”
coyboyusa said on May 20, 2003 06:47:
the movie had the highet grossing weekend of a r rated movie ever almost 140 million dollars
JoyRidErno said on May 21, 2003 11:58:
Amazing! I have to go and see it again, and again, and again...:)
tinytim said on May 21, 2003 13:23:
Hmmm...the question is: Is the movie so good, so big, as all the marketing campaign tells so?
Is it so better than the first?
Of course it isn’t so good as the first - at leat, in the analysers opinion...’coz those analysers always seek for the story, the script, only, not the entire.
What about the scene where Neo flies? Hmmm...I guess that all the videos available in Internet are not enough to tell 1/5 from the story...
Anyway, I saw the link with Matrix Revolutions trailer...just wait to see, folks...the trailer don’t tell it, but...Neo will die...
kachina008 said on May 21, 2003 13:45:
neo will die? where did you see that, tinytim? or is it your speculation?
tinytim said on May 21, 2003 14:09:
kachina, The Matrix story is full of simbolisms, most of them, religious...after all, the carachters need faith more than ever, even the sun left them...
So, Neo turns to be the Messiah...he must die, to accomplish with his parallel...and, he’s that world savior...he must give his life to do it.
Remember what the ’Oracle’ said in the 1st movie...he would have his life in one hand and Morpheus’ in the other...it didn’t happen yet...this ’prophecy’ is about to happen...he concluded mistakenly that it was about him entering the matrix to save Morpheus...well, it wasn’t, you’ll see.
Besides, the scene I saw in the Matrix 3 trailer shows a cataclismic fight between Neo and the Agent Smith...in a street, in a rainy night in front of a row with hundreds of agents...an atmosphere to Neo’s death...I guess...it has all the elements...
But, as I understood...there is a sex scene in this movie? Is it strong? And this Keanu butt thing...do they appear semi-nude or something? I mean...well, you know what I mean...
I guess if it’s so, it’s something that runs out of the Matrix context...it seems strange, sounds odd for a movie like that...
Jackeill said on May 21, 2003 19:30:
@tinytim: give me that link! :)
i heard there is matrix revolutions trailer after credtis of the reloaded. gonna see it. 46 hours left to go :D
zeeshan said on May 21, 2003 19:45:
mmmmmm I think they COMMERCIALIZED the sequel and NO, they shouldn’t have done it. No use of all those dance scenes!!
tinytim said on May 21, 2003 19:51:
zeeshan: that was my fear...
the first movie was entirely original, and almost unknown...Me, myself watched it only in video, in 2000...but it got a lot of attention after the 1st, while the 2nd and 3rd were shot and now...it was expected...
OK, here goes the link...hmmm...althought I made it available in the X-MEN 2 topic last week:
http://hem.passagen.se/fazaa/the.matrix.revolutions.mpg
http://www.mikedingleyjones.btinternet.co.uk/the.matrix.revolutions.mpg
tinytim said on May 23, 2003 15:40:
If I get better (I woke up with diar...well, it’s not your business...and a headache) I will watch it with friends, tonight, 20:45!!
i_jera said on May 23, 2003 20:46:
I can’t really compare both, after all, they are part of one,... I can say I really enjoyed that. a lot.
Jackeill said on May 23, 2003 23:22:
nice!!! quite good movie!! worst than first one but great also. waiting for 3rd part!
tinytim said on May 26, 2003 18:40:
You can’t consider part 1 better than 2 or vice-versa...part 2 happens six months after part 1...(remember what Morpheus says about free minds - more than in six years). It’s all part of a continuous story...so, you can’t consider it splitting...
I only found boob Dance Party part...only an excuse to add the lewd elements...very typical from the Wachowski Bros.
Now, let’s find holes in the story...I found one...
If the Matrix exists to keep human minds busy, so the bodies of human plantations won’t get lost, and if the mind “makes it real” every hurt, every wound...then...nobody gets ill in the Matrix?
Nobody has cancer, AIDS, tumors, and heart problems?
Only a healthy human body can generate the perfect organic energy (BTUs and Volts) to feed the machines....so...
I strongly recommend you (nothing to do with the answer) to watch “Animatrix”...to be released in June 3th...wonderful animations, that enrich the Matrix universe...and if you like a good, elaborated sci-fi story you shouldn’t miss it...
For the ones who are curious about how the machines turned the humans in slave...it’s all explained in The Second Renassaince Parts 1&2...
And for those ones who didn’t watch Reloaded yet..seek for some TV broadcast (like Warner Bros or TNT channel) that can might broadcast “The Final Flight of Osiris”....a transitory episode to the Reloaded story...it explains how it was found the 250,000 sentinels assault plan...
OK?
Jackie_Radiorox said on May 26, 2003 18:49:
I have to see part one again to remember.
But the Original Matrix was a utopia of sorts and it backfired because it was found that humans needed imperfection and chaos to keep their minds working correctly.... Or something to that effect.
tinytim said on May 26, 2003 20:32:
OK...but that’s not the point.
The human mind is “used” to imperfection, so, it needs suffering to measure its existence (something veeery debateable). That’s fine, I understood. But who’s killed in the Matrix dies in the real life...dies inside those slimy pods...so, if the Matrix were a perfect simulation of an imperfect world, it was supposed to have diseases, epidemics, hunger...the Matrix it’s a simulation of mankind’s apex - the end of 20th century...so...do the social disgraces of 20th century exist for real - are there humans in the pods suffering for hunger?
Do people get ill, do epidemics have spreded, etc...’coz if so, lots of “crops” would get lost...that’s the logical of the story, I guess...
on_a_mission said on May 26, 2003 20:46:
hey, this is a good serious discussion tiny! I’m liking it
[Note: for everyone who wants a laugh see the ’per as actor’ thread for an extremely STOOPID Matrix/Per discussion]
Yea, may be mixed up here, but I reckon Tiny has found an anomalie in the story - Nice going! If the machines need to feed off healthy humans (in the slimy pods) then the simulation of epidemics/cancers and other diseases would be extremely difficult. Unless, for some reason - all suffering is simulated completely (ie a programme in its own right) and death is just some form of disconnection in the ’real world’. I don’t even really believe this would work though. *Head Hurts*
Also, the ’choice’ thing ? If the single biggest barrier to the perfect matrix being choice is true, I do not get how this can be so. The humans (in slimy pods) are plugged into the matrix. How can they retain their individual capacity to choose? Why does the Matrix not have full control/the ability to restrict such parameters?
tinytim said on May 26, 2003 21:29:
Then...it was supposed to be easier “waking up”.
What means...the Matrix was never perfect...since the beginning!!
Also...if the concept of mind and psyche is something so real...both machines and human minds are capable to feel and decide...why the Oracle was the only program (machine) who decided to help humans?
tinytim said on May 26, 2003 22:37:
A.I.
That’s what the machines are all about. That’s why they can control and create the Matrix. And Morpheus called the agents as “consicous programs”, isn’t it? Is that correct?
Well, I watched to The Second Renaissance, so, I know this a little bit more.
But the Oracle it’s a program...she’s the Architecht’s helper, isn’t it? Why did she help chosing humans? Why others (many others) didn’t too...
I’m asking it too, ’coz, in Matrix 1, if you read Morpheu’s ship plate (Nebuchadonezzar - sorry for the spelling) there’s the New Testament text of Mark 3:11 - that says concisely: “and when the impure spirits saw him, claimed: ’You are God’s Son.’” I think, the impure spirits, the programs of the Matrix, that help controlling humans will help Neo to destroy the Matrix - after all...it’s Matrix Revolutions...
Jackeill said on May 26, 2003 23:23:
in the end of matrix reloaded we can see neo stoppin machines in real world. these scene made me think about something... maybe the ending of the whole matrix story... if neo stopped them with his supernatural power, maybe... the real world is a matrix also ? what about putting one matrix into another? they think that they’re free, but they are just going from one level of matrix to another, and they’re giving power anyway? what if that’s true? what if there are lots of matrixes [huh?]? and what if they never can escape from them?
i think it would be nice endig of the trilogy. of course neo has to die, like tinytim said. do you remember what wachowski bros. said once? “matrix shows the path which human beings are starting to go, and it shows that this is THE BAD PATH” so i’m sure there won’t be a hapy end.
tinytim said on May 27, 2003 21:32:
I’ve bee thinking about something...maybe you read it already.
If you read that Nebuchadenezzar plate, as I said you’ll see that New Testament title. So, everyboy agrees that Neo is a Jesus Christ metaphora. He’s the dark mankind future’s messiah.
If you read John (or St. John) 1:1, you’ll see Jesus called as “The verb” or “The word”.
In binary logic a “word” can only be made of two algarisms...not 00, but at least, 01...
01 - one
If we anagram one, you got
neo
neo, the one.
So, the wachowski bros give the right clue...neo is the messiah, so, he’ll die, to fullfill the story similarity.
Don’t forget reading the Matrix Comix in www.whatisthematrix.com...veeeery cool stuff...
LittleSpooky said on May 27, 2003 22:04:
You know, when you write dissertations on a movie
YOU TAKE IT TOO SERIOUSLY!!!
Know why I dig it? Just cuz I did. Previews had NOTHING to do with it. Not to mention the fact that unless I REALLY LOATHED the first movie, I will finish out the series of a movie.
Which means, yes, I will see Charlie’s Angels 2: Full Throttle.
Loved Speed (mostly because I drive bus for a living and Sam is my hero. He’s the bus driver. Yeah he got shot, but he got a dig in at Sandra Bullock’s character ;o) ), and loathed the second. It went NO WHERE, and was glad that Keanu Reeves didn’t sign for that.
Ferdan said on May 28, 2003 06:25:
“sex” scenes were really necesary in Matrix 2....
it was needed to show humanity, and what differences us from the machines... it was a kinda long scene, could’ve been shorter... but it was necesary
Emil__BG said on May 28, 2003 14:59:
ferdan-you are right about humanity..
but i didn’t like that part of movie much..
the dance scene was kinda long ,the “sex” scene wasn’t very sexy..
tinytim said on May 28, 2003 18:50:
I didn’t see any Keanu butt...(thank God)
Yeah, and besides being long, if you’re in a movie theather with a ’real’ sound system, you almost get deaf...what a sound!! As well in the road chase scene...
Jackie_Radiorox said on June 19, 2003 05:38:
LOL!! Yea the dance scene could have been cut waaaaaaaaay down.. And the sex scene... well thoes thingys they have from being plugged in are freaky. Could have been a bit more sex there!
I still love to death that KISS scene.. *Grins* Trinity just ROCKED there.
tinytim said on June 19, 2003 12:50:
Woooo...Jackie...it seems that you are jealous, huh?
LOL.
Are you? Would you aim a gun to the girl that played the ’available one’ to Jackie’s?
clerk said on May 17, 2003 11:01:
I’m going to see it this week, just watched the first one again, cause the last time I saw that one was 4 years ago, but now I’m ready for ’Reloaded’!!!