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DVD 2003- Complete guide of errors
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Roxbang2003 said on December 8, 2003 22:19:
Hi every1.
My intention with this post is to make a “guide” to all the mistakes on the new DVD.
this way, NTSC people can discuss with PAL people what are the differences, what is wrong with their copies and -who knows- we can try something to make EMI trade our dvds on a “new print” without some errors...
so here’s the checklist for all the mistakes I’ve seen so far on my brazilian NTSC version of the release:
*ON THE VIDEOS:
video / problem / time
-Fireworks / screen blinks / 1.34”
-Fingertips / “tape artifact” / 0.53”
-Fading Like a Flower / screen blinks / 2.04”
-Spending My Time / “tape artifact” / 0.19”
-Crash!Boom!Bang!/ screen freezes 1 frame/ 2.45”
-Joyride/ “tape artifact”/ sorry didnt manage to get the time for this one, but its there...
So I’ve seen problems “ONLY” on these 6 videos;(havent checked them all yet) ; some are more noticeable than others. By far, the most noticeable is Fireworks and Fading....with a “black blink” of the screen...
*EXTRAS:
-Making of Joyride:
VERY LOW quality video... sometimes u cant manage to see who-is-who or u can actually see “blocks” (digital artifacts), like u were watching a bad VCD.
-Really Roxette:
The obvious -and already loved- SYNCH problem with the audio. It happens the whole documentary.(man, I’m a fan of this mistake! anyone who release something like this should get a prize or something!)
So please share if your copies have the problems, and if they are NTSC or PAL...
(i suspect PAL copies do look better...cause we NTSC people are victim of the CONVERSION....and by the way, did u notice the “slowdown” moviments that resulted from this conversion? well, but can’t blame them...thats inevitable!)
see ya!
Denstandigaresan said on December 8, 2003 22:29:
So why not post it in an existing thread?
http://dailyroxette.com/smalltalk/thread.php/9329
Denstandigaresan said on December 8, 2003 22:30:
And you honestly think they’d take any notice? And print new copies? When, judging by the ones already released, they don’t give a monkies about it.
Roxbang2003 said on December 8, 2003 22:36:
I didnt post in the same thread cause its kinda of a “definitive comparision”, to ease people compare so we can come to an conclusion about what to think about it or if theres something we can do...
LoneGunman said on December 8, 2003 22:39:
I just can’t believe it... We gotta do something about this... come on, EMI is making fun of us. Let’s start a campaing or something to complain about this errors... EMI is out of control !!! >:(
Roxette-atic said on December 8, 2003 23:15:
Hey! I had not noticed these mistakes. But now that I know..they really bug me!!
Denstandigaresan said on December 8, 2003 23:59:
Ahhh... so before when you didn’t know about the errors, it was all fine and dandy. Now someone has told you what to look out for, suddenly it’s a problem?
Hmm... Great stuff.
If you’re so overly bothered about the DVD, send it my way. I’ll happily own it.
Denstandigaresan said on December 9, 2003 00:25:
Talk about wha?? :S Ahhh, don’t you mean, minutiae? ;)
Denstandigaresan said on December 9, 2003 00:28:
Y’know what MM... that just about covers it! Damn, you’re good!
Roxette-atic said on December 9, 2003 00:38:
@Denstandigaresan. exacly. It should be PERFECT!
Buy your own by the way
Denstandigaresan said on December 9, 2003 01:04:
Awww... you’re spoil sport. I think I shall go and cry. :(
Na, cause I don’t mank and moan about a DVD, then buy it anyways.
I’ll get it eventually. For definite.
Look... tread on toes as we all will over this. I’m a nice person really. Please don’t shoot me.
I just like a good banter now and again, as do we all. This is my week for it. Next week, i’ll be my soppy soft head again.
I love you all really. ;)
Now you can all put those knifes away... there’s good fellow rox fans. :S
LittleSpooky said on December 9, 2003 01:13:
I haven’t bought it yet, and what with the troubles I’m hearing... maybe I don’t WANT it.
Denny: I’m picky. I like “clean” videos / audio and so on. I like quality stuff, and that’s why I started buying DVDs. But if this is what is being sold and represented... never the hell you mind. I’ll find something ELSE to spend my money on.... Like Sarah Brightman’s DVDs and stuff.
Denstandigaresan said on December 9, 2003 01:21:
Yeah... hence why I haven’t bought it yet. ;)
If I did have it, i’d keep it. Another coffee coaster. Right on.
Denstandigaresan said on December 9, 2003 01:22:
Oh... and i’m not overly picky about quality and stuff. But i’ve got a shitty set up as it is, so everything looks pants to me!
Roxette-atic said on December 9, 2003 01:23:
dont cry....
just let me be bothered about the dvd...:)
Denstandigaresan said on December 9, 2003 01:27:
So, did you put the knife back in the drawer?
Yeah... not, not allowing you to be bothered. Just until this was posted, seems you hadn’t noticed these ’errors’. ;)
Ok, and breeeeathe. Tension is building. In, out, in, out.
*HummmmmmitsonlyadvdHmmmmmitsonlyadvdhmmmm*
MiracleMan said on December 9, 2003 01:55:
Nice mantra, there Den.
Spooky: I really haven’t noticed all the crappy things—aside from the sync problem on the last doc—and I’ve been through it several times. I too like clean and perfect, and I was reasonably pleased with the DVD. And I don’t have the other to compare the new DVD to, or for that matter any VHSes. And I don’t sit there watching for errors and taking the times down. That’s a bit obsessive for me.
Buy it if you want, or don’t, but don’t be put off by the comparisons to the PAL.
Roxbang2003 said on December 9, 2003 02:50:
“And I don’t sit there watching for errors and taking the times down. That’s a bit obsessive for me”
Thanx.
I put some of my time to do this cause what I was trying to do was SHOW THE REALITY so everyone could judge what was wrong with the DVD and if it was worth to buy it or not...
and then, we could come up with something to talk with EMI, who knows...
I bought my DVD on pre-order. I could never watch it before I buy. So, the intention here is to TELL people there ARE mistakes.
Of course there’s a lot of people who’s going to buy the DVD just because there’s the word “Roxette” labeled in it. That’s EMI plan.
But there are people like me, who knows a tiny little-bit of “DVD/MPEG2 picture-quality standards” who would not be satisfied to have something BELOW these standards at home.
And no, returning the money is not the point. The point would be solving the problem. And I know it’s a much hard battle...
God, there are people who will defend Roxette even if they make a cover of Britney Spears!!!
It’s EMI WE ARE TALKING HERE!
Please, can’t u just STOP and see there ARE mistakes AND LET people be annoyed about it?
n-Somnia said on December 9, 2003 04:25:
It’s probably because I’m tired, but I don’t understand what “tape artifact” is...?
DaminehGessle said on December 9, 2003 05:16:
Yeah MM I don’t get the whole time-taking thing either. I used to watch Roxette videos very carefuly back in the old days, paused it, kissed per and so on... I just don’t feel like watching the same stuff over and over again, grew out of it. Bought the DVD and put it aside as I have seen it all.
ally77 said on December 9, 2003 08:30:
So ermmm thanx for pointing out the errors but is everyone DVD got the same errors or just yours? Has someone who has the DVD watch at the points mentioned? is yours the same... would be intresting to know...not as though I give a s**t I’ll still be buying it...
Roxette-atic said on December 9, 2003 09:27:
I think all the dvds have theses problems. Mine does too.
@Denständigaresan Im very calm. Just a little tip: when you tell someone to ” breed in and out”, or to relax, it actually makes them more upset. And I dont think I was rude or anything, was I?
Roxbang2003 said on December 9, 2003 11:10:
Yeah probably everyone who uses NTSC has these problems (and even PAL people), cause they are result of the source tapes used and/or conversion...
By “tape artifacts” (alright, I kinda of created this expression..) I mean those “lines” that appears on the VHS when the tape’s too old, u know?
It‘s a real shame...I got my Erasure DVD (2-disc set) yesterday and it has videos from the early 80’s..and they are all crystal clear!!! Of course the picture is not THAT sharp, but at least it‘s from a good copy, cause there are no “tape-lines”
(this is something I‘ve never seen on a DVD before..but luckily, EMI gave me the chance!) :)
Denstandigaresan said on December 9, 2003 12:01:
If I had aimed it at the board, I would’ve said... everyone repeat after me, but nope. No sign of that. I was telling that to myself... did you not see... Tension is building?? :S
Although actually... I didn’t say Breed... I don’t right fancy breeding on a Roxette board.
And erm... why are you getting upset?? Or are you missing the sarcasm of my posts? Wooooosh. And there goes that cold icy wind.
Making it into something bigger is up to you, but I won’t be joining the ride.
See, I love this place... cause someone posts something... the person above auto takes it on themselves. Well, I never.
Roxette-atic said on December 9, 2003 12:33:
I dont like sarcasm. So go on and play smart with someone else.
ally77 said on December 9, 2003 12:40:
>>
Who was being sarcastic... you did not read what she put.... Now drop it...
Roxbang2003 said on December 9, 2003 12:57:
I‘m sure there’ll come the day when some people here will start treating seriously other members and won’t make a serious discussion becomes a flame-war for their egos.
I started the thread cause I thought it would be useful. Not to blame/flame anyone.
Can we seriously discuss the DVD-problem and the ones who DOESNT see any problems please be polite enough to respect the ones who cares??
Asya18 said on December 9, 2003 13:38:
@Denstandigaresan: you’re great and your’re right.
Without your banter a simple question will turn into the world problem:)
I guess that this problem is topical for a lot of people but...i personally don’t care much of the quality of what like. I just like it.Though it may be wrong. Besides I think nobody will do nothing to change the situation.
Is it all come to a demonstration?)))))
Denstandigaresan said on December 9, 2003 14:03:
Well, good for you... I wasn’t being sarcastic to you. Yet, you seem to wanna take it all on yourself.
ally77 said on December 9, 2003 14:25:
There is always someone... I mean it is not as though EMI will actually read this topic and think ” oh major problem with the new Roxette we must callback all copies and fix it”!!
Denstandigaresan said on December 9, 2003 14:33:
Yup... I turn my pc off, and forget about this... others obviously love to wallow.
I apologised, and I mean it. :D
Roxbang2003 said on December 9, 2003 16:05:
Know what? U are right!
Let‘s just forget about these “little mistakes” on this DVD and about our consumers rights!
Let’s sit down and wait for the next “update full of perfect-quality videos and totally in-synch documentaries”
We should be yelling at Madonna’s/Rush/Celine’s/etc forums, cause man...their DVDs really sucks...totally below the standards, out of synch stuff and a lot of tape lines on the videos..what a shame!
I shouldnt be complaining...I‘m just a stupid fan who bought an excelent masterpiece-DVD.
Send more, EMI! Write “Roxette” on your releases and we are here to buy them blindly, cause we trust u so much!
best wishes and sorry for starting an useless topic.
Eloy said on December 9, 2003 17:37:
well, the argentinian edition of this new dvd is in NTSC and I noted a terrible problem with the sinch of the audio during the whole documentary Really Roxette.
DEAR EMI: “I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT I KNOW WHAT IT´S RIGHT AND THIS IS REALLY WRONG”.
we all the fans that bought this faulty dvds sould make something about it, I think. It´s really really sad.
best regards
ally77 said on December 9, 2003 18:31:
All I can suggest is if people are really unhappy with the quality of the DVD etc.... then just write direct to EMI... the more people who write and complain the more likely something will be done about it...
Roxbang2003 said on December 9, 2003 19:00:
If we really wanna make something about it, first thing to know is: WHERE was this conversion made. Was it in Sweden? (By the same studio who did the PAL version)? Or was it made in another country like Canada?
Cause, we know that all the NTSC copies (brazilian argentinian, canadian etc) came from the same source....an exact 100% copy. Nobody touched it, just replicated it.
If we know WHO did this, maybe there’s hope. Cause then we can write, complain and ask for a repair.
Remember: in some cases, EMI had to go to court for embarassing some users (because of their faulty copy-protect stuff)...and it’s an easy case to win!!
So I guess we should give it a try...
Maybe it was EMI Svenska who made the DVD??
Denstandigaresan said on December 9, 2003 20:15:
It should say somewhere on the case, the DVD face, or somewhere on the DVD.
coyboyusa said on December 9, 2003 21:06:
why cant we just post this under one big whiners forum and be done with it?
Denstandigaresan said on December 9, 2003 22:41:
Yup... I edited my posts to reflect that!
I know I might come across on here as the offspring of satan and Beelzebub, but i’m nice really!
I hope we can keep our differences in this one thread.
patolucas said on December 9, 2003 22:49:
Hi!
I’ve got the sema problem with my Argentinean dvd release.There’s a terrible SYNCH problem in the REALLY ROXETTE.
TheRain1981 said on December 9, 2003 22:57:
Roxbang2003, thanks for sharing this information! Everyone else seems so bitchy because you made this topic. *rolleyes* I think it’s very appropriate, and I’m glad you are pointing out the mistakes for everyone so they can be aware of the problems and decide for themeselves if they want it. I considered buying this “updated” DVD until I read some of the comments here. But I’m not wasting $30 again.
And writing EMI is a good idea as well. I’m very picky about quality myself, unless it’s so old that it can’t really be improved. I know what you mean about the 80s videos. I have the Eurythmics “Greatest Hits” DVD video collection - and whereas the audio isn’t remastered - the video obviously is. Unlike Roxette videos from the early 1990s (like “Fading Like A Flower”) I have Eurythmics videos like “Love Is A Stranger” from 1983 that doesn’t have the artifacts and tape lines and grainy picture. I was surprised at how good the quality was. This is several years earlier than these early 90s Roxette videos too! So, yes, EMI did a cheap job. And you, along with others, have reason to complain.
Roxbang2003 said on December 10, 2003 02:36:
Thanx TheRain...the only intention was to help other fans and -who knows- make them repair the damage for us...
If we just shut up, it’ll be always like this. I started to make some online reviews, so people will be aware of the problems.
Well, and I’ve checked the DVD information. Here’s what I Got:
Jesper Eriksson - Cutting Room, Solna
Apparently, this guy did all the job alone (is him professional or what?)...or at least thats what it seems, since his name is mentioned as the author of the DVD.
But where is Solna? Sweden? (sorry my ignorance!)
So probably the “guilty people” are still EMI Svenska AB right?? They let the thing out the way it was...
so anybody got any ideas? e-mails we could send? letters?
Believe me, they got a big trouble in hands, if we really mention our consumer rights!
its law we are talking about...
at least in Brazil they’ve lost in court... guess they can lose once again if they don’t listen to their consumers...
Roxbang2003 said on December 10, 2003 03:25:
*surprise surprise*
Check this website:
http://www.cutting-room.se/tjanster/dvd.htm
anything familiar? Oh yeah! It’s our good n’ old
roxette- AVEM!
This guy’s also responsable for the first edition of the DVD....(menY anyone?)
I’ll write a polite email to him, altought I don’t think that sending him e-mails will make any effect... BUT we can contact EMI and tell about the dirty job this company did...TWICE!!!
we should still aim at EMI...above it all, it’s THEIR fault.
RobS said on December 10, 2003 07:42:
getting back to the topic, I could find all the errors listed except on fireworks, CBB. (PAL version)
Also i noticed a while back on The Look, at the end of the song (Nananana part when marie is on the toilet) there is some really, really bad pixelisation (this should not be on a DVD.)
here’s a link to my site, a few screenshots of SOME of the problems
http://home.austarnet.com.au/robtony/
I realise that to some this may seem really picky or whatever, but as it has been mentioned by some DVD is a high quality format, and releases like this really defeats the whole purpose of releasing it on DVD.
Markuz said on December 10, 2003 08:18:
Wanna contact EMI and complain?
http://www2.dailyroxette.com/smalltalk/thread.php/9495
RobS said on December 11, 2003 07:43:
BTW the PAL version of AVEM doesn’t seem to have the synch problem in really roxette. (at least i couldn’t notice it)
Emil__BG said on December 11, 2003 13:01:
the fact that we are fans musn’t not made us blind about the problems...
thanks Roxbang2003 for sharing this...
i have all videos on VHS and bought the DVD only becouse i want better quality...
i give the money and want something in return!!
if we still don’t talk about that.. if we didn’t want the perfect product... we will go even to worst situation than we have now—Per’s DVD that don’t work fine on “SOME” DVD players!!
what next–DVD that don’t work at all??
i guess even then there will be many people that we said—-“”ooohh i’m satisfied –i have such a good cover from DVD”” -it’s enough for me :-))))))))))))
Roxbang2003 said on December 11, 2003 13:23:
Emil, thanx for the support. For me, it was really important that this release would be “the best” Roxette release ever. Complete, high-quality, the ultimate Roxette-fan wish. After all, WE KNOW we’re not going to see these videos being released again...
Robs: GREAT job with the screenshots. Altough seeing it “still” is not the same thing as watching it on TV, it can show to some skeptical people what the problem is all about.
And we can add one more video to our list:
Queen Of Rain.
This problem is also present on AVEM.
Well, to be honest, the author of the DVD got the EXACT same sources for making this new one. He just added a new menu, 5 videos less, 2 new videos, some effects and VOILA, here’s the new DVD.
Oh and I’m sure ure hungry for more errors - so here it goes:
you probably noticed that this new release doesn’t have the “199.. - Emi Svenska AB etc...” in the end of some videos like we had on AVEM.
The guy tried to cut these credits for the new release, but he always left 1 frame. So, in the very end of some videos, you can still clearly see the credits starting to show (in a dark tone) and then, u move to the next video. altough it‘s not important, shows the work of a truly incompetent professional.
send more!!!! finding these mistakes is fun!!
It’s almost like “Where’s Waldo?”, but in this case,
muuch easier to find :)
Denstandigaresan said on December 11, 2003 18:56:
RobS... that second screen shot is quite scary... looks like something out of a Ghost story. :S
I shall now have nightmares.
*I really oughta quit watching Ghost movies*
LittleSpooky said on December 11, 2003 19:44:
Now to be serious a moment:
Denny: I understand your point of view. I also understand everyone else’s too.
My take: I pay $30USD (or whatever) for a DVD that is of my favourite band. While I expect a couple of errors (c’mon, people and pooters AIN’T perfect folks), the AMOUNT of errors I have read about thus far, makes me wanna run screaming from the DVD and hold it at gun point. I’m not getting it right now until I make contact with EMI or whatever and hear what line of crap they have to feed me. I might not ever own it at this stage.
Let me ask EVERYONE here this one question and let you think about it for a few:
Would you pay $7.00USD and up to go to a movie where the sound was shitty, most of the scenes were dark (and it’s BROAD DAYLIGHT IN THE SCENE), the sound skips / cracks / hisses, and they have to keep starting and stopping the movie because of the fact that the film is just that bad???
My answer: Not only no, but OH HELL NO!
While this isn’t a “movie” I expect the same quality.
Denstandigaresan said on December 11, 2003 20:04:
Spooks... I was being serious! Looks like a body floating above a bed... and those lights are like on poltergeist!
Jud (moderator) said on December 11, 2003 21:17:
well just thinking of the bad image this gives Roxette would be enough, but as customers when you pay for sth, you wanna get what you pay for.
Why to pay the same price for Rox DVD full of mistakes as for another artist (whatever you wanna put here) DVD with NO mistakes, top quality booklet and all?
Paperback and hardcover books have different prices for some reason, not only for the cover ;)
RobS said on December 12, 2003 06:50:
@roxbang2003 - i made these screenshots when i first got AVEM, but at that time no-one else seemed to complain about/notice these problems. Maybe NTSC viewers are more picky than PAL ones ;-)
also i remembered that there’s a few of them smudge/artefacts in really roxette. If you want (and if i’ve got the time) i’ll try and put them up as well.
Roxbang2003 said on December 12, 2003 12:17:
Robs:
yeah, I’ve noticed these mistakes on AVEM and when I heard about the new edition, I thought: wow, finally EMI will re-release it in a decent way...remastered videos etc...
then...
ta-daaaaa: they come out with an even worst DVD.
I got only 1 reply on the Roxette mailing list when I tried to discuss these “bad-quality” videos...people don’t seem to care about quality, I think. they only wanna buy the DVD and be happy cause they got it... what is really sad, knowing this (like I mentioned before) is the last opportunity to get these videos on a digital format.
(they were released what...? 5 times now? (look sharp live, the videos, dont bore us, the 2 dvds etc.. they’ll for sure NOT release it again.)
when I look at other artists videos I almost go to tears... 5.1 audio, remastered stuff, making-of the videos...that’s why DVD is the best video format around
Chaghi said on December 12, 2003 14:12:
Here in Argentina we tried to write to EMI Odeon (the local branch). One of us was more lucky than the others, as he could reach someone at EMI who at least made a reply. This guy from EMI Odeon, basically says: Oh! sorry. We’ve checked what you say and you are right, but we make all the DVDs with the master we received from Holland, so... I’m sorry, but the only thing that I can say is we’ve already made the pertinent complain to Europe.
:(
Has anyone else got a “official” word from EMI?
What about Per, D&D Management...? Their are going to pretend that nothing happens? I can’t believe that!
Can we have an article in TDR about this? I mean... maybe if someone else read this on the frontpage of TDR...
I’m very upset & sad with this... It’s SO difficult to have something new from Roxette here in South America. And now we get this crap.
Certainly this hurts Roxette’s image.
Ezequiel was telling us that the DVD is already sold out in many places in Buenos Aires... imagine all this people... many are buying this as a Xmas gift. Is *very* annoying!!!
But all we have is a (useless?) discussion here in Smalltalk.
We *must* find a way to push EMI to say something serious.
Please, sorry if I sound rude in any way but:
- believe me, I’m VERY upset :(
- English isn’t my first language.
Roxbang2003 said on December 12, 2003 16:59:
Chaghi: we’re all feeling cheated by EMI, and people here in Brazil tried to talk with them too. The answer? The same you got: they’ll contact EMI Europe to tell about the error.
My guess? They already know.
Are they going to do something about it?
I dunno. But believe me: there’s a LOT OF MONEY involved if they decide to reprint.
Are we fool-fans worth the price for them?
Who knows.................
oh, by the way, I HAD to quote this friend from another thread:
“Anyone else out there who encountered the problem with his latest singel?
I bought mine today and there is no music on it, instead there is a long interiew with two british guys!??! I kept the CD but it seems it´s the only one. A rarity perhaps??”
MAN!!!!!!! This is getting out of hand!
I’m thrilled!!! A CD printed as a Gessle CD but it’s in fact ANOTHER CD.
I wanna work at EMI!!!! What they do all day long?
a)Play PS2, XBOX, GCUBE
b)Bet on how many people they’re going to cheat
c)Discuss if M.Jackson is really guilty
b)Try to guess Cher’s age
DeLuk said on December 12, 2003 17:07:
Oh dear, and me thinking that these defects (regarding image/picture) were coming off “TB&TPH”... But so they are actually present on “ATVEM&M” as well?... (I haven’t yet acquired any of Roxette’s/Roxette-related DVDs - nor any other at all for the matter - for the one reason of not having a player, so I haven’t got even “ATVEM&M” so far.) Oh man, talk about going to tears... :(
And as for the PAL version vs the NTSC version of “TB&TPH”, they both present the very same problems, yes, or?...
(BTW Roxbang2003 thank you for the info shared!)
DeLuk said on December 12, 2003 17:12:
Just wondering, does anyone by chance own any DVD from any other artist which has also been released by EMI, and, if so, does it too suffer from any kind of defective production, as Roxette’s?...
Roxbang2003 said on December 12, 2003 17:37:
Yes, DeLuc. The defects on the videos are present on both DVDs. My guess is that the guy got the same source for both. (Did u really think EMI would give some new tapes and he would do A GOOD job this time? hehe)
But at least AVEM has a synch- Really Roxette.
And the quality of the joyride documentary looks better, I guess.
In resume: the new DVD is = the old one + some more mistakes for us to enjoy.
Isn’t it a good deal? ;)
By the way, about the EMI-DVD question...I got my Erasure DVD (2-DVD set) the same day I got Rox.
(Dunno about other countries...but here, their releases are under EMI label)
It looks gorgeous! Great picture quality (well, for 80’s videos...) suberb sound quality and...synchronized extras!!!!!! Isn’t that fantastic?
Don’t you think they should put this on the back cover?
“Features of this DVD:
-Videos with good picture quality
-All the documentaries synchronized with the audio!”
that would sell better. :)
DeLuk said on December 12, 2003 18:12:
And still back to the PAL version of the new DVD, in one of his previous replies RobS said “...I could find all the errors listed except on fireworks, CBB. (PAL version)”. I assume then that the PAL version also has the audio-synch problem in the “Really Roxette” documentary as the NTSC version (even though “ATVEM&M”, also PAL release, doesn’t)?...
Roxbang2003 said on December 12, 2003 18:33:
“Really Roxette” is okay on this 2003 release PAL version and also on AVEM!
BUT on this new DVD NTSC versions, its out of synch.
When doing the conversion, the guy screwed up with everything and the sound is totally off-synch.
My guess when Robs says that he doesn’t see any problems with Fireworks & CBB on his “PAL Ballad/Pop DVD” is because MAYBE these videos were screwed up when doing the convertion to NTSC, too.
the smudges/tape lines/and most of low-quality videos...everyone got: no matter PAL or NTSC. Cause they come from the tapes EMI gave him, I guess.
but NTSC DVDs come with extra “features”......
;D
RobS said on December 12, 2003 22:23:
i seem to have confused some people with some of my comments, sorry. But i don’t have TBH&TPH DVD (EMI OZ don’t seem to be releasing it). I’ve been commenting on the AVEM DVD as a means of comparing both versions and the fact that it had the same problems as the new one.
on the other EMI DVD? .. my dad bought one (popular OZ country singer) and i was astonished at the fact that sound was in DD5.1 even though these were tracks back from the 50s/60s (i think) and even the video was much better than Rox’s DVDs.
Maybe it’s not so much Cutting Rooms fault as it is EMI’s, maybe they dug up all the old rox vids etc and gave them to him, said “make a DVD (cheap)” so he did the best he could with the crap (old)sources he had?? what do you think??
Jud (moderator) said on December 8, 2003 22:21:
LOL it seems to be full of crap!!!