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new dailyroxette for German fans!
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cskendras said on April 29, 2003 17:53:
German fans can be looking forward to www2.dailyroxette.de!
the new website will have a fresh design and connect several German roxette-pages like “www.roxetteforum.com”, “www.roxette-fan.de” and perhaps some more!
you will find translations of the english news from dailyroxette.com - so people can understand all those news without knowing the English language.
we are no competitors to tdr.com, we’re fans and we’re proud of it! ;-)
ROX ON and STAY TUNED with dailyroxette.com and dailyroxette.de!
camillarox said on April 29, 2003 20:28:
couldn’t you come up with a more original name?
täglichroxette maybe? or roxettezeitung or whatever? ;)
Vixzter said on April 29, 2003 20:40:
I wonder sometimes.....i really do ;) Roxette sing in English.....why don’t they sing in German? ;)
Do you catch my drift? ;)
LittleGirl78 said on April 29, 2003 21:15:
NO, Roxette should never sing in german......english is already OK ;-)
And why a other name how dalyroxette.de? I think this name is perfect for the site.
tevensso (moderator) said on April 30, 2003 07:06:
Agree with all the above. Why a special site for Germans? Why can’t Germans learn English like the rest of the world, one wonders? Do you even understand Roxette’s lyrics, like Vixter says?
And if it is not a part of The Daily Roxette, why does it have The Daily Roxette as name??
I’m not against a German site per se, but it does feel like wanting to “steal” our name...
Jud (moderator) said on April 30, 2003 07:06:
but isn’t roxette-fan.de already offering news in German?
alchemiste said on April 30, 2003 07:13:
To me, this sounds a lot like PLAGIARISM (“Diebstahl geistigen Eigentums”) ...
And, to be honest, I don´t think the name TDR is fitting for the site you´re planning here since it´s going to have completely different contents.
Did you ever ask for the permission of the makers of TDR to use the name TDR for your project?
camillarox said on April 30, 2003 07:19:
nice sentence:
LittleGirl
Moderator
Re:THE DAILY ROXETTE DE ! THE GERMAN EDITION !
« Antwort #47 am: April 20, 2003, 22:20:57 »
———————————————————-
tdr.de soll BESSER werden als tdr.com [biglaugh icon or sth]
Und das ist ja gar nicht sooooooo schwer
Taken from www.roxetteforum.com
LittleGirl78 said on April 30, 2003 07:38:
thank you thank you, camillarox.
This was only a joke, but if you don´t know the difference from joke to true then you have a problem.
I don´t want to fight with anyone. And the news-site from TDR.com is perfect, only some peeps don´t learn english in the school. OK in germany the most, but in other german-speaking countries they learn italian or france. ;-) for this should been a newssite in german and not for the peeps who can english. ;-)
Th_Th said on April 30, 2003 07:48:
What an ignorant and stupid statement to make tevensso: “Why can’t Germans learn English like the rest of the world, one wonders?”
I do work wth Customers from all over Europe, mostly Germans, Dutch, Swedish, French, Italien and Spanish... from all of these countries, the Germans have got the best english. The dutch are pretty good as well... the Swedish, I am sorry - very hard to understand... and the french refuse to speak english most of the times... the Italien and Spanish folks totally suck at it but they try hard...
Germans in general have pretty good English skills... but of course not everybody has got the same skills and talents, so OF COURSE there are some other fans that don’t speak english at all. So I don’t even think the idea mentioned here for a german site is that bad... even though the name may to be considered again...
tevensso (moderator) said on April 30, 2003 07:49:
Are you calling ME stupid? I hope not... I don’t hear any talks about starting up a Swedish/French/Italian dailyroxette, do you? And frankly, I could care less about your customers, they are probably not visiting TDR that much...
If you had read my post more carefully you may have noticed I wasn’t against the site either, just the NAME.
animalkingdom said on April 30, 2003 08:05:
Oh tevensso, you are NOT against a German site?!
Let’s see..
“Why a special site for Germans?”
- Why not? You’re already opposing it here...
“Why can’t Germans learn English like the rest of the world, one wonders?”
- Oh deer, isn’t that just completely out of touch...I mean how rude is that, really?
“Do you even understand Roxette’s lyrics?”
- Okay, I’ve got to say that you are absolutely the most unthoughtful ’moderator’ of the ones I have bumped into around the Internet!
Now I think the Germans really like to keep it away from here and “stick to their mother tongue” cos of those terrible remarks!
And consult Visa about the name, he’s the one who came up with all this fun! Or don’t, it isn’t a registered trademark, is it?!
alchemiste said on April 30, 2003 08:06:
And the name indeed is an offence against TDR.com unless they have authorized its use. IMHO, at least.
Th_Th said on April 30, 2003 08:12:
Tevensso:
If you would read my last statment more carefully, you would see, that I didn’t call You Stupid, But I called your previous statment stupid...
what have got my Customers to do with the TDR? My Customer are all “Everyday people”, so I get a good insight, of what nations have got good english skills and who doesn’t...
geez, don’t get so angry... I know you are not stupid... I really like some of your interessting insights on the discussions on this site here... but don’t get so offensive...
cskendras:
I just tried to reply to your email, it got returned to me as: email address is unknown. Hat sich deine email addy geändert?
Th_Th said on April 30, 2003 08:17:
No worries mate...
you see, as you can read form my previous statements... I do agree with most of your points anyway... ;-)
roxgirl_germany said on April 30, 2003 08:19:
About the name:
I think the folks involved in the German TDR must have contacted the TDR.com folks since there was this post in the German forum:
—
“cskendras (20 April 2003, 22:05:35)
mal zur klarstellung:
TDR.de wird nicht TDR.com
TDR.de wird keine deutsche Version von TDR.com, das wollen die Macher von TDR.com auch nicht, und wir auch nicht. Deshalb freut euch auf eine brandneue Seite mit prominentem namen!”
In English:
“TDR.de will not be TDR.com
TDR.de will not become a German version of TDR.com, the makers of TDR.com don’t want that either, nor do we. So look forward to a brandnew site with a famous name!”
—
“The makers of TDR.com don’t want that either”: sounds to me as if they had asked permission first to use the name.
tevensso (moderator) said on April 30, 2003 08:28:
They didn’t get that permission though... :( They chose not to listen to Visa & LEO.
LittleGirl78 said on April 30, 2003 08:33:
hmmmmm.....this I don´t understand ???
The maker of the german site say that you don´t want that ther german site is the same how like TDR.com, but they haven´t ask you?
This you must explain me.
EDIT:
And what is Visa & LEO?
tevensso (moderator) said on April 30, 2003 09:06:
@ littlegirl: I’m sorry, but I don’t understand what you mean. Visa Kopu is the owner/webmaser of The Daily Roxette, and LEO is Lars-Erik Olson, who is the news chief of TDR. (I am merely a news edtior and moderator myself). ;) They have both asked cskendras to please not use dailyroxette as the name of the new German site, but he did anyway. :( Which is a bit sad since they shouldn’t have asked then, if they couldn’t take no for an answer.
@ animalkingdom: Are you even for real?
camillarox said on April 30, 2003 09:17:
Cool eh?
They ask Visa and Lars for permission, they ask them to please use another name and? They use it anyway!
Way to go, indeed.
I don’t want to know what would happen if somebody would get RoxetteForum.net or Roxette-fan.com... and don’t come saying “we wouldn’t complain” because we all know it’s not true.
Vixzter said on April 30, 2003 09:25:
Th_Th : the french refuse to speak english....simply coz ....well....they’re french ;)
I dunno why we used to have to learn french in school here....I’d much rather have learnt german or swedish or anything for that matter.....something useful ;)
So anyway....is it true about asking to use the name and not getting permission and using it anyway??
*tut tut*
I mean come on guys......use the news (as long as you credit the correct sources) by all means.....link to this site by all means....but be original and find your own name! or am I asking to much .....please tell me if i’ve fanned the flames a little.
LittleGirl78 said on April 30, 2003 10:13:
@tevensso: Is OK. this what you have explain me answer all my questions. ;-)
OK. They don´t ask about pemission :( Sorry I have thought this was so.
roxing-Jane said on April 30, 2003 10:23:
tststs! *headshaking*
What a stupid discussion!
Ok I understand when tevensso is against calling the german site dailyroxette.
BUT, the discussion about learing english is TO stupid. Sorry!
By the way, I’m looking forward to the german version of dailyroxette,.. even when I understand english. ;-)
Th_Th said on April 30, 2003 11:14:
I would think it is fine if the german site would have the same name if it would be run by the same people, but it’s not... so it would be quite strange to use the same name...
maybe we could make some suggestions for a cool name for the German site... just a couple that come into my mind would be:
jeden.tag-roxette.de
taeglicheroxette.de
roxette-tagfuertag.de
365tage-Roxette.de
24/7roxette.de
oder was auch immer....
of course the owner and moderators of TDR would not like their name to be used, as they would probably loose some visitors... I would feel the same...
Th_Th said on April 30, 2003 11:27:
alchemiste:
what is this link? It does not bring me to any website at all... ??
LittleGirl78 said on April 30, 2003 11:40:
I think this isn´t a competition.
Because, the german site is in german, but the most members here don´t speak german, so they stay on tdr.com, and the german site wouldn´t have a forum, so is this a plus for your site.
So is the german site only for this guys who are german-speaking and can´t so perfect english, and this isn´t a shame.
I mean only who should go to the german site and leave the tdr.com?
Maybe that some go on both site but I don´t think that anyone leave tdr.com and go only to tdr.de ;-)
Th_Th said on April 30, 2003 11:45:
No, I really didn’t get the impression that they try to cover TDR. Even though the name may leave this impression... the contents seem to be different...
bbrox said on April 30, 2003 11:50:
When I read this discussion I get the feeling that the people here are only afraid, that lots of fans leave this site.
And the other thing is, that no one has to ask for permission to use a name for an own website, or?
Jud (moderator) said on April 30, 2003 12:08:
I don’t think that this is about loosing visitors - German fans are already using the Roxette forum instead of Small Talk for their chats. And they already have a website with news in German, with translated news from different sources (roxette-fan.de) which is a nice site in my opinion. So they *already* have a website with German news. I don’t really get why the need for another one - will they “compete” with eachother? And I don’t understand why it has to be called DailyRoxette.de when it has nothing to do with this one...
I think that it is about “respect” not to use a name that Visa has used for his site for ages. There is just ONE Daily Roxette, and it’s THIS one here.
I believe people wouldn’t like to see a new band called “The Roxette” or “Roxette from Germany” or? ;)
tania said on April 30, 2003 13:16:
i dont understand the problem if they (germany)want a roxette site so frigging what i dont care all i want to do is read all i can over roxette and enjoy what other roxette fans have to say.isnt this what all the websites are for????????????so come on you guys dont argue its not worth the energy. roxette fans for ever love you all.xxxxxxxxxxx
Th_Th said on April 30, 2003 14:55:
I totally forgot that The Daily Roxette is taken from the Look Sharp Cover... this changes everything, well then, of course you can name your site dailyroxette.de that would be cool in fact... just imagine every country would have their own dailyroxette.de or se or whatever... and of course, this one here, the english one would be the most popular, as fans from all over the world gather here... but still, I don’t mind a german version of TDR anymore, I think it would be WAY COOL.
japeke said on April 30, 2003 15:36:
www.roxettezeitung.de (as mentioned before) is also a good option...
But it really isn’t a good idea to name it dailyroxette.de.
alchemiste said on April 30, 2003 15:57:
To me it seems that someone who didn´t manage to create a successful website up to now tries to get his piece of TDR´s enormous success...
alchemiste said on April 30, 2003 16:16:
@StillFar:
“@alchemiste : funny hearing that from you”
Why? *wondering*
cskendras said on April 30, 2003 16:54:
oh my God!
well, as i said many times before, we don’t want to copy tdr.com and we really take care for Visas work (to express it that way), but many people think that we want to take part on the success of tdr.com, so tell me who will visit the German tdr besides the German fans?
we decided not to have any own stuff on tdr, only the translations of the news-articles and links to already existing German pages.
but we’ll think about the whole story again...
StillFar said on April 30, 2003 17:02:
@alchemiste: oh it just reminds me of another not really successful webpage that received a new concept a while ago, very similar to the one of TDR...ok, end of the story was that nobody really cared and still prefered TDR...
LittleGirl78 said on April 30, 2003 17:03:
cskendras wrote:
*but many people think that we want to take part on the success of tdr.com, so tell me who will visit the German tdr besides the German fans?*
The same I trying to tell all the whole time, but nobody hear at me. hmmm.
alchemiste said on April 30, 2003 17:05:
StillFar wrote:
“oh it just reminds me of another not really successful webpage that received a new concept a while ago, very similar to the one of TDR...ok, end of the story was that nobody really cared and still prefered TDR...”
Well, I would understand your point if we´d named this Website http://www2.dailyroxette.org/ but as you may have noticed we didn´t... It´s still called http://www.roxette.nl/ - and I don´t really see any similarities in design, to be honest. Anyway.
alchemiste said on April 30, 2003 17:06:
@LittleGirl78 and cskendras:
Well, if it´s not about being part of tdr.COM´s enormous success, why couldn´t you come up with a different name? Everyone connects TDR with what it is right now, so even if the name isn´t copyrighted, it´s some kind of plagiarism.
cskendras said on April 30, 2003 17:09:
@alchemiste:
you just said it yourself:
everyone connects tdr with dailyroxette.com. where’s the problem?
i think some people here are whether envy or simply don’t understand, that we want to ONLY deliver the translations of TDR.com, so the conncection to tdr.de was very good.
alchemiste said on April 30, 2003 17:17:
@cskendras:
You wrote: “you just said it yourself: everyone connects tdr with dailyroxette.com. where’s the problem?”
Because this is UP TO NOW, and from now on you can´t simply refer to “TDR” but you have to say *which* TDR you´re talking about... This sucks, and it´s unfair against the TDR team, IMHO.
You wrote, “i think some people here are whether envy or simply don’t understand, that we want to ONLY deliver the translations of TDR.com, so the conncection to tdr.de was very good.”
From what YOU wrote, you´re going to have a COMPLETELY different concept than TDR.com has. So either you don´t know what you want, or you´re spreading misinformation...
cskendras said on April 30, 2003 17:23:
perhaps you read my very first post here in this discussion, then you might get to knoe what the concept of tdr.de will be!
here again:
“the new website will have a fresh design and connect several German roxette-pages like “www.roxetteforum.com”, “www.roxette-fan.de” and perhaps some more!
you will find translations of the english news from dailyroxette.com - so people can understand all those news without knowing the English language.”
so, the only thing what we will do, is to link to the German forum www.roxetteforum.com and some other German pages and to deliver the translations!
simple, easy and imaginable!
alchemiste said on April 30, 2003 17:29:
While on http://www.roxetteforum.com/ you also promise a huge gallery, etc etc ...
Roxette-atic said on April 30, 2003 18:18:
dailyroxette.de???? C´mon.... Were´s your fantasy? Couldent you come up with something better??
cskendras said on April 30, 2003 18:20:
other people misuse those names to link to sex-pages or something like that...
cskendras said on April 30, 2003 18:29:
ok, i will stop answering in this discussion.
first i really wanted to create a BIG tdr with gallery, lyrics and all those things, which makes a fan happy. my second thought, however, lead me to the final result, that tdr.de shouldn’t be a competition to tdr.com so all those extra-things wouldn’t be created by tdr.de, but taken from already existing pages.
that’s all.
just look forward to the new site and then we can talk about it again.
Roxette-atic said on April 30, 2003 19:04:
Sound like a great site for germans but my big question is; why do you ALSO call it tdr??
DTR24 said on April 30, 2003 19:11:
Hello Dear friends,
I’m also on the project Dailyroxette.de and i have to say that i personaly wrote 2 mails to Visa and Lars.
They said thát the Idea is ok it up to us what we make ... but we don’t have to make the german version of The daily Roxette.com
This means that we won’t wont be a simple copy of TDR.com
About the name they also said we can’t force you to take another name since this domain is free and they didn’t say at all DON’T TAKE THE SAME NAME !!!
So we asked for permission and we got imediatly fine feedback ...
The German fans are happy to get a new News portal site and Roxette-fan.de is working together with dailyroxette.de
Every info we translate from TDR.com will be specified by the line Taken from TDR.com if this is the case !
Don’t fight about languages think about the community and about a great new project.
Greetings Dany
Roxette-atic said on April 30, 2003 19:19:
not answer to the question;why do you also call it tdr? Sure, you might have the right to take the name. But why not come up with something new?
Rox_me_like_a_baby said on April 30, 2003 19:20:
Simple solution to the problem: Put a big sign at the top of the TDR.com main page thats says “this site is absolutely not in any way affiliated with a crappy ass German site called TDR.de!!!” :D
DTR24 said on April 30, 2003 19:23:
Because we take the information from TDR.com thats why we choose the name Dailyroxette.de !
You don’t like the name ?
Than you are against it ! But we asked for permission and the webdesigners are informed about our project !
Roxette-atic said on April 30, 2003 19:25:
I LoVE that name. And since I love the name Roxette- my new band will be called Poxette!:D
Jud (moderator) said on April 30, 2003 19:42:
well as I read above it looks like tdr.com (Lars / Visa) asked you to please NOT use the same name... they didn’t demand you but they kindly asked you...
And OF COURSE you have to give credit to tdr.com if u use news from this site, I mean this is out of question.
u name it tdr.de because u take news from here.. then should tdr.com be called aftonpressen.com????
DTR24 said on April 30, 2003 20:01:
Cmon !! It’s not about the name... The webdesigners don’t have anything in contrary with the dailyroxette name !
Are we two different Webprojects ? Yes we are
Do we have the same name ? Not really because we are .DE
Are we opposers because of that or do we want to be a concurent web side ? No we do just what every Rox fans in Germany want’s us to do !
They are proud that there will be a TDR.de for them because their english ist not so good as yours maybe.
Imagine yourself without English knowledge won’t you be happy to have any site in you language ?
OK the name is the same ! And what is the problem ? Do you get happier if we have another name ? Or do you think we have also to stick together as roxette fans !!!
Sometimes i really think that we don’t think about this ! Try do get connected LOVE IS ALL !
So try do belive in the new project. It will be designed different just the name is the same !
The domain www2.dailyroxette.de was free the name wa sout for use ... we asked ... we got feedback ... the webdesigner didn’t specified nothing about the name just about the version and the protocol !
So calm down and enjoy let’s be good freinds again !
Rox_me_like_a_baby said on April 30, 2003 20:03:
@DTR24 and cskendras
The main problem is this: TDR.com has a LONG STANDING REPUTATION for being a good source for Roxette info - TDR.com has even been mentioned on one or two of Roxette’s CD sleeves!!! Now if you make your little site “TDR.de” and you f*ck up in some way either by publishing something stupid or making inappropriate comments about Roxette or WHATEVER, then it is TDR.com’s reputation that will go down the drain as people who are not nessesarily Roxette fans (ie: the press - I think they sometimes mention TDR.com as a source for news that they publish) will think that your site is affiliated with TDR.com.
Bottom line: change the frickin name! Will it kill you to call your site supercoolroxettenews.de or roxettemagazine.de or SOMETHING ELSE? At least then if you quote TDR.com as a source for your news, then people will know for sure that you are two completely different sites. It is also not fair that you want to ’ride’ on TDR.com’s reputation.
DTR24 said on April 30, 2003 20:04:
we will have nothin more than the news from TDR.com if they post something stupid we also will do this ..
And hey TDR.de is just for germany !
Jud (moderator) said on April 30, 2003 20:10:
I would never ever think of making a Spanish portal and name it dailyroxette.es.... just for respect! But I guess that after so many posts of people who try to explain why we don’t like the name... and you not getting it.. it’s no use to go on trying to explain.
DTR24 said on April 30, 2003 20:16:
Dear freinds we bought the Adress www2.dailyroxette.com so its not so easy to change now !
The pitty is that we asked for it ! And I Think the best ist that also Visa get into this discussion to clarify something ... that would be really nice !!!
Roxfever said on April 30, 2003 20:58:
Those who don’t don’t understand German will NEVER vistist trd.de. You won’t loose any users. The Germans who like trd.com will stay here or contribute to both de. + com.
The idea of creating trd.de is NOT competition.
What’s wrong with the name. they asked for permission and got.
@TDR.com-bosses: If you’re asked for permission and don’t want is say: no. but you didn’t but well, mhh, don’t cover us, well, yes, ok, blablabla.
I ’ve changed my mind. I told one the .de people to do it. (I did it in German because I’m one of the lazy Germans who don’t want to learn English)
Now I’m against it. If it is not possible to cooperate with other roxettefans .......
No.
Sascha said on April 30, 2003 21:57:
I’m german. I’d like to see a german newssite. But I don’t like to see it called tdr.de!
It’s just lame to copy a famous name, permission yes or not. TDR has build up something like a brand over the years! Why don’t you just change the domain to another name? It isn’t too expensive, think about it!
Parre said on April 30, 2003 22:09:
why are fighting again and again ???
i dont understand that
everytime someone comes up with an idea or something else there will be a large discussion about it, almost everytime with getting unfair
im pissed off of all that stuff
and tdr.com is loosing a member, but you cares, no one, coz all the memebrs here are so ******
yes, im german
yes, i will visit the site tdr.de because i wanna know what its all about
have fun here fighting against eachother
im leaving
LittleGirl78 said on April 30, 2003 22:46:
The fight I don´t understand, too.
I have ever thought we Roxette-Fans should been all friends forever. :-)
I visit the site tdr.de yes, (because I´m one of the lazy germans who don´t want to learn english) OK this was a lies, if I don´t want to learn english I wouldn´t go in a english forum. But this set, sorry was very unfair and rude, that we german are all too lazy to learn english.
But I go anyway to tdr.com and r2r because I want to learn english better, and this goes in english sites the best.
And for the german peeps:
Last es gut sein, überzeugen kann man eh keinen und die nerven und der Streit ist es echt nicht wert. ;-)
Starrox said on April 30, 2003 23:01:
@tevensso: Was that comment of yours really necessary? “Why can’t Germans learn English like the rest of the world, one wonders?” Ever thought about the fact that not everyone has the possibility to learn English good/long enough to understand everything or learn it at all? I really think you should apologise for that rude comment! After all, you too had to learn English first, didn’t you?
tevensso (moderator) said on April 30, 2003 23:16:
I’m sorry, I don’t get your point? I disagree about the rudeness. And yes, I know English?
Starrox said on April 30, 2003 23:38:
You don’t get my point? Oh come on... is it really that hard to understand that there’s a need for translations for those who don’t understand enough English? And don’t tell me you immediately understood everything when you started learning English!
(BTW, don’t forget movies and TV shows are usually dubbed into German, so most people only start learning English at school at the age of 10 and quite a lot of those from East Germany never even had English!)
HummingBird said on May 1, 2003 00:00:
hmmm...after all..some people just might find themselves unable to learn a different language - just as lots of people find themselves unable to understand maths or whatever else (play music, paint pictures, ....). Surely they still deserve to read news about their favourite band in a language they understand ???
Starrox said on May 1, 2003 00:04:
Thanks HummingBird, I just wanted to add that! It’s just wrong to say “Oh, why don’t they learn English?” - it’s not always that easy!
LittleGirl78 said on May 1, 2003 00:48:
@tevensso: May I still posting if my english isn´t perfect, but good enough to can say something in english with a terrible grammar? Or may I only posting if the english is perfect? Then I´m this NOT.
You make the rules what I read.
roxbeliever said on May 1, 2003 01:35:
starrox- i don’t think that ppl from East Germany never even had English!!
littlegirl we don’t discuss grammar,mine is not good too:-))))—cskendras said- ” so people can understand all those news without knowing the English language. ” not tevensso- it just strange to love Roxette without understanding the lyrics, at least a little bit
cskendras and other german fans are our respected cîlleagues in TDRand think all this is some kind of misunderstood and hope soon will be found a way out of the situation,cos everyone understand what TDR means for roxette fans...
Starrox said on May 1, 2003 03:32:
@Roxbeliever: I was talking about those who went to school in the DDR - sure, many of them did learn English in school, but not all!
And I don’t think you can only like a song if you understand the lyrics - if it would be that way, then I’d really like to see your explanation as to why songs not only in English, but also in French, Spanish or Italian (just to name the most common languages) make it into the Top 10 here... surely not because of the few - compared to the amount of people who speak English - people speaking those languages...
camillarox said on May 1, 2003 08:48:
I find it even more disrespectful and rude to use a domain you have kindly been asked NOT to.
cskendras said on May 1, 2003 08:55:
we could also have said anything about it - and i think it would have been better so - and the whole discussion wouldn’t exist.
i am so ashamed, if Per ever reads this discussion about an URL...
cskendras said on May 1, 2003 09:06:
one question anyway:
would you be pleased, if someone else would take the url -and that was really possible!! - for linking to websites with pornographic content for instance?! that ws my first thought about it...
we just wanted to promote TDR.com and far more Roxette, because many people in Germany don’t even know that Roxette still exist, so flaming and saying that it’s disrespectful to use a domain is in my opinion contraproductive.
but we will think about it again as team. it’s not up to me to answer this difficult question.
you have to think about it that way:
we ask, politely as we are (because we neend’t to ask) and got an indirect yes, and as it seems today, a No, too. we were very happy about this answer, thinking that everything is clear now.
then, programming and designing started and after a bunch of work i was simply to happy and announced for you fans that we are doing a new website without knowing, what a flaming discussion i started. that was my mistake and i want to apologize for it. then, after this f*cking hard work you start talking about the name, URL and so on...but you KNOW THAT YOU WON’T VISIT THE GERMAN TDR REGULARLY AND THIS IS NO COMPETITION TO TDR.com´as i often said before.
so, why not internationalizing TDR? i would be very happy, for example, if we have several languages on TDR.com! a whole team, all fans supporting Roxette!
Think about it a bit and THAN answer again! we are Roxette-Fans, we LOVE Roxette, we love TDR and we want to SUPPORT Tdr, not to compete with!
steven said on May 1, 2003 09:35:
They say that imitation is the most sincerest form of flattery, however...
This is clearly an attempt to feed off the hard work and popularity of Visa’s great site.
I predict a short and unsuccessful future for this site.
AntiMario said on May 1, 2003 10:07:
Do you guys have bees in your bonnets to attack moderator all the time, huh?
Discussion about learning English by Germans went too far from Topic, dontcha think?
LittleGirl78 said on May 1, 2003 10:19:
The discussion with learning english beginn the Moderator.
And if the Moderator don´t understand that this was unfair and rude, then I also don´t understand why we shouldn´t call the site tdr.de.
This I have already said, from me we can call the site also with a other name, but after the rude comment................
Roxfever said on May 1, 2003 10:26:
When I rigistered here it was fun talking to you. My interest in positing here gradually decreased. During the last mothns I only came here to see you fighting and not to talk about the greatest band in the world. It’s a shame.
I’ll be back when I feel like reading stupid comments.
@Per. You read the discussion? Sorry you had to spend your time seeing your fans fighting. I’d like to apologize for all the crap you’ve got to read here.
cskendras said on May 1, 2003 11:17:
and i have to apologize to have started this discussion here...i’m very sorry!
Let’s be friends again!
tevensso (moderator) said on May 1, 2003 11:30:
OK, I didn’t mean to sound rude. I’m sorry if I hurt any feelings, that was not my intention at all. It was more jokingly than serious, but that doesn’t come across in writing. I do hope this site will be as great as it claims to be, while I also hope they reconsider their name. Viel glück!
Roxette-atic said on May 1, 2003 11:33:
@tevensso- if you read what i have written about this topic youll see that I agree with you. They shouldent call their homepage tdr. But your comment about germans and learning to speak english was WAY over line. Even more odd I think, you dont seem to understand why ppl got mad at you. If I was german I would be upset.
Jud (moderator) said on May 1, 2003 11:37:
gosh.. he just appologized! What do you want? That he gets on his knees? It’s not so easy to explain what you mean when there are not colorful icons to use as smileys, it wasn’t so nice to use this domain EVEN IF Lars / Visa opposed to it (whatever missunderstanding it was), and we are still to see the name changed, ...
Ferdan said on May 1, 2003 11:37:
If it’s a site for non speaking Germans, why calling it DAILYroxette?
is daily a german word?
appart from that little detail... i think it’s a lack of respect to use the name Dailyroxette without “permission”, after all the years that tdr.com has been getting bigger and bigger, to the point of getting direct recognition from Roxette themselves.
camillarox said on May 1, 2003 11:37:
sure, friends again, BUT when will we see RoxetteZeitung.de online then? ;)
LittleGirl78 said on May 1, 2003 11:52:
hey, c´mon are we friends again.
I was only a little bit angry about the statement from tevensso, but he have apologise and this is OK. for me, I think this was difficult to write this without smilies and we german have this see as attack. But this is OK.
And about the name of the site, we in the german forum are talking about maybe though call the site with a other name, not sure what for a name.
Please let us been friends again and don´t fight again. ;-)
cskendras said on May 1, 2003 12:02:
the website will be online on
May 17, 2003!
Look forward to it! ;-)
AntiMario said on May 1, 2003 12:20:
Some time ago, I have asked Visa if he could get a part of the code for making Russian Rox-forum site look like TDR. There was no answer, so the web-master got another “gear” somewhere. This does however have smilies (tons of them) and there’s no deep fight about what was written. :)
Bury the hatchets, dudes!
Kiwein1 said on May 1, 2003 12:23:
“If it’s a site for non speaking Germans, why calling it DAILYroxette? is daily a german word?”
Well, ever heard about “denglish”? (-:
I just want to add that the german language is flooded with english words for almost everything. We also create participles for some words: maybe: geADDed, geUPDATEt, geDOWNLOADet. I don’t like that very much, but I think that saying that DAILY is not german isn’t a good argument to change the name of the page.
But I truly think that if LEO and Visa said that the boys shouldn’t use the name DAILYROXETTE then they just should not use it.
So this was my first and my last statement concerning this topic.
cskendras said on May 1, 2003 12:29:
we also have girls in our team ;-)
my last comment for this topic is:
LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE NEW PAGE!
i think, the design is great, the name will be great and we can live in peace... :-D
Kiwein1 said on May 1, 2003 12:30:
“we also have girls in our team ;-)”
I know but the girls didn’t say anything here except .. *eg*
cskendras said on May 1, 2003 14:11:
*lol*
how nice you moved this discussion to the TDR Discussions Forum! :-P
crashroxer said on May 1, 2003 14:17:
Hmpf....WHY DON’T SOMEBODY TELL US THAT THE DISCUSSION MOVED IN THIS FORUM ?? I think it’s so stupid....tzzzzz....
PLANET ROXETTE FORUM. COM -> RULEZZZZ
Jud (moderator) said on May 1, 2003 14:46:
PLANET ROXETTE FORUM. COM -> RULEZZZZ
>> when u manage to read + write there :P
Lars-Erik_Olson (moderator) said on May 1, 2003 15:18:
@ Chris: The discussion had run it’s course... it really belonged in this section anyway... should have been moved here before... glad you agree.
tania said on May 3, 2003 19:06:
i agree with little girl 78 why the fight?????????????? like i said i want to read everything i can over roxette and if its a german site so wat????????im english living in holland i speak the languege and a little german to roxette fans should be friends no matter where you come from or am i missing the point here or am i just dumb(dont answer that)
genius_lover said on May 17, 2003 21:08:
Remember: visit us today att www.radioljusdal.nu at 11.30 o ‘clock pm and you will here a part of the new Gessle singel!!! Just choose the button “lyssna”.
You can also write down some words in our guestbook.
cskendras said on May 21, 2003 22:56:
the name of our new site will be
ROXNEWS.de!
Online in June 2003!
:-)
ally77 said on June 8, 2004 20:57:
Okay I think I missed this first time round.. what a funny topic...
harriej said on June 8, 2004 22:05:
Seems like the real Daily Roxette is so good, that a german version is not needed!
Kiwein1 said on June 9, 2004 06:50:
A lot of things happened there..
The main problem was that the majority of the people wanted to discuss the news in the well-known Roxette forum www.roxetteforum.com as they have done it before www.roxnews.de was started. That didn’t work out very well since the news was posted in the forum as well.. *g*....that’s the main reason for the failure I guess..
cskendras said on April 29, 2003 17:54:
NOTE:
dailyroxette.de isn’t a “German edition” of dailyroxette.com! it’s an independent project of fans for fans!