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onlywhenidream said on July 27, 2007 11:46:
I was wondering, as Per is one of the biggest stars on Sweden’s music scene, and Sweden is the third biggest music scene outside UK and USA, why doesn’t Per play at something like Womad? This is the World Music Festival that is taking place this weekend (i think) in the UK. It is organised by Peter Gabriel, so it has some pretty big players invovled.
I just think that Per could really do himself (and us UK fans) some favours by hawking himself around a bit more.
Just a thought. The one for the day. I’m off for a lie-down now!
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Gachy said on July 27, 2007 18:05:
Sweden is the third biggest music scene outside UK and USA? I don’t think so. Indeed, it’s a quite small market.
Sascha said on July 27, 2007 18:39:
Sweden is the 3rd biggest music exporter but that says nothing about the size of the swedish market.
onlywhenidream said on July 28, 2007 07:21:
yeah gachy go to www.sweden.se and you can find out all about its industry sectors - its music is the third most successful.
AURYTE said on August 1, 2007 09:42:
It just proves that the Swedes make really good music.
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phoenixsamudra said on August 1, 2007 14:11:
that was a very funny joke. Third biggest market in music I believe is Germany followed by Japan. Besideds Gessle is not really what can be considered ’Word Music’ although I don t know what kind of acts are playing on that festival i know that Gessle is far away from the kind of material Peter Gabriel is generally promoting via his real word label.
tevensso (moderator) said on August 1, 2007 17:33:
What’s so hard to understand? Sweden is in fact the third biggest exporter of music in the world, regarding sales. That’s it. What groups do Germany and Japan have??
Do not mistake this for the biggest territories that BUY music.
CoyRoy said on August 1, 2007 20:51:
May I ask one stupid question, if I may?
I know nothing about the export business of the Music Industry and you guys say that Sweden is the 3rd biggest exporter of music..... Then my question is: What artists are Sweden exporting??
Are Roxette and ABBA still their biggest exports after all these years?
How big is Roxette’s exports still after all these years.
I read on an ABBA site that ABBA was during their career Sweden’s biggest exports. Then Roxette ruled the world and then they were Sweden’s biggest export. How big are these 2 bands still??
phoenixsamudra said on August 1, 2007 22:36:
well from what i understood the topic started off with the biggest markets which would not mean biggest manufacturers.
Well sweden has a lot of pop which it sells to the rest of the world like for example the whole dance crap. It s much easier for Swedish musicians to sell than for Germans as no one has a grudge against Sweden.
I m sure ABBA are still selling a fair amount of records worlwide, it s always a matter of reissuing material.
ncurran said on August 2, 2007 15:30:
The failure of German music has nothing to do with people having a grudge against them. The war happened a very long time ago. People buy German cars, washing machines, etc. People will buy what they think is good quality. Sweden is home to many top pop writers and producers which is why international stars like madonna and kylie will work with them
Jud (moderator) said on August 2, 2007 16:26:
I don’t know where you live but here in Austria there is Swedish music in all music festivals, I think it’s the same in all Europe.
The Hives
Sountrack of our lives
Mando Diao
The Sounds
Backyard Babies
to mention some :)
And do not forget the many songwritters and producers which sell their songs to artists all over the world. I realised half of the songs in No Angels last album were written and recorded in Sweden (lyrics were recorded in germany and then mixed back in Sweden). Even one of the songs has the Tom Bone stamp :)
Madonna, Kylie, all the wannabees (Timberlake, Spears & co) have recorded songs written by Swedes.
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phoenixsamudra said on August 4, 2007 19:08:
I lived several years in Uk for exapmple and believe me no one is kean on buying German music because it s always looked upon as trash no matter how serious the work is. I don t think I m beeing paranoid on this and by the way I’m not even German myself.
ncurran said on August 5, 2007 15:48:
Phoenix, you do have a valid point, but you are wrong to single out Germany. There is a great snobbery in the UK music industry, and it is hard for any mainland european bands/artists to be successful without being dismissed as cheesy europop. Germany isnt singled out in this though, as it could be said about any country. That’s what makes Sweden’s success in the music industry so amazing, as they have still been victim to this snobbish attitude. It has never been cool to like a band like roxette, and even today when they are mentioned in the media they will often make fun of their swedish accent. Despite this, they still had a lot of success though, and that is something to be proud of. Not only has sweden produced a lot of successful bands though, but also famous music writers and producers who british and american bands queue up to work with. For some reason sweden has been able to break this mould, which no other mainland european country has been able to.
daniel_alv said on August 5, 2007 16:54:
ABBA still sells a lot of records.
And when you say Sweden is the 3rd biggest you include machines and stuff that you make CD’s with and things like that I have heard. Also We have big producers that have made music for world artist like Backstreet boys, Britney Spears and many more.Denniz Pop and Max Martin, so Sweden doesn’t only export artist, also producers and songwriters.
phoenixsamudra said on August 5, 2007 18:02:
well I don t think anyone is questioning anymore the export strenght od Sweden. Still sometimes I feel that a lot of the Swedish songwriters are hired when there is no money for proper stuff and I mean this just in regards to for example the previous mentioned new No Angels album. But this could also mean that the status of Swedish songwriters and producers is so high that even a crapy one is prefered to others.
Then again to the German issue. Of course UK is not taking anything serious that s not from UK or US, still I feel that there is always a bit racism mixed in when refering to German music. Because it never matters how long ago a war was it will always influence peoples minds.
phoenixsamudra said on August 5, 2007 18:03:
ooohh by the way Robyn has been really hyped in UK over the last few months
chrisjankunas said on August 5, 2007 21:40:
The war??? What does that have to do with anything??? I laughed out loud when I read that - I was not even alive during the war, therefore not having much of an opinion of it. It certainly doesn’t affect my taste in music - I am from the UK. TO be honest I don’t even know what German mnusic is - appart from songs by “the Hoff” who I dont like very much :)
ncurran said on August 5, 2007 22:07:
Iphoenixsamudra, dont want to offend you but i really dont think you know what you are talking about. Firstly, the swedish songwriters and producers are not thought of as being “second rate” within the business. If so, why have stars like britney, madonna and kylie worked with them. I’m sure their record labels are not looking for budget producers.
As for the whole “war” thing, that is pretty ridiculous. As I said before, it is not just Germany. When was the last time that an artist from France, Spain, Italy, Norway, Austria, etc, etc had a huge hit in the UK. It very rarely happens. Basically it is hard for any artist who does not come from an english speaking country to gain credibility and support. For some reason the swedes have managed this more than other countries in europe.
phoenixsamudra said on August 6, 2007 07:32:
how many times u think I came across racism towards Germans regarding the war??? I m not even German still I was reminded of it practically on a daily basis. Believe me I know what I m talking about. It s great that u are so openminded and tolerant but believe me many are not, and in UK especially the media are not as left wingd as they claim to be.
Then to the other remark I made about swedish songwriters. Please read it carefully!!!!!! I said that there are occasions in which artists use songs written by swedish second rate writters possibly because Swedish songwriters already have such a high profile that it s better to say it s a swedish song than to actually have a good song. I maybe didn t make myself that clear.
P.S. Robyn just enterd UK charts at 5
phoenixsamudra said on August 6, 2007 07:38:
regarding the coment chrisjankunas made. ’The Hoff’ as he is called in UK is not German and did not have any success in the UK. The only thing people in the UK heared about the hoffs music was that germans are stupid enough to buy his CD, and they are riding this every since. Whenever there is a German CD coming out in the UK there will be a comparrison with the Hoff just because a few hundred thousend little girls once bought his records.
What I m saying is that there is generally a very strong oppinion about what the germans are like and what they produce. This certainly leads back to the war, I don t see any other explaination.
tevensso (moderator) said on August 6, 2007 19:59:
Couldn’t it be as simple as that German music, in general, REALLY sucks?
phoenixsamudra said on August 6, 2007 20:06:
I don t think that s the case. There is plenty of really good stuff out there. Let s take Joy Denalane for example that at least gets some recognision in the UK at the moment.
It s not like much that has been exported recently out of Sweden has great artistic values
purplemedusa said on July 27, 2007 17:09:
wwwwwwwwell that’s the right place for the SOAP material, for sure!