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TDR turns to TDPG?
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lawyer said on June 24, 2007 16:05:
Well since last year I've been noticing that the site more looks like the daily Per Gessle with very rarely ever Rox publishments,is it ok to believe that we will have never ever any new Rox news?
purplemedusa said on June 24, 2007 17:04:
There are NO Roxette news at the present moment! Per Gessle happens to have an active solo career and hence the the reason for the majority of Gessle-related topics lately. If you don’t like he’s music dude I think it’s time to find another website to visit... or get yourself another hobby!?!
roxwho said on June 25, 2007 04:41:
marie has just released a family affair with her husband yet there is hardly any news on that??
im sure there is a large amount of people who are not interested in pers swedish solo music like me... but i mean what can you do if thats all there is in the news??
i cant wait till this EHM period is over, and hope there is something for the english fans again!!
Jud (moderator) said on June 25, 2007 05:34:
roxwho: Marie didn’t release A Family Affair but her husband, and anyway, we have covered everything there is to cover about it, there is no promotion, no interviews no nothing :)
The one thing that is missing is a review of the album which we’ll do .. soon :)
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Roxy said on June 25, 2007 06:35:
Maybe someday there will be Roxette news. Maybe not. And i think its nice to know what is going on with them, even though they’re not working with Roxette.
gyllene_tjej said on June 25, 2007 08:38:
I just LOVE these kind of thoughts of a somewhat disturbed mind :D :D Nice someone still has the power to worry about petty things like that, lol :D :D
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pwbbounce (moderator) said on June 25, 2007 09:59:
There is no Roxette news for the simple fact that there is no news to report on. The band is ’on hiatis’ at the moment. Whether they’ll be news in the future remains to be seen.
Mikael’s album release must be one of the lowest key releases ever, with no promo at all, hence why there is no further news than from what has been reported on. I’m sure that when/if Mikael does an interview, it’ll be posted on TDR
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Kiwein1 said on June 25, 2007 10:33:
Well, there was a short article and interview with Micke in Expressen last weekend. Who would have thought that? :-)
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tevensso (moderator) said on June 25, 2007 16:42:
“Roxette - no news at the moment”
There, covered it. Happy?
miss-misery said on June 25, 2007 17:20:
Some people are eagerly waiting for a review of Mikael Boylos’ cd. That’s perfectly fine. It would be nice having one, just out of curiosity.
But I’d like to know what would have happened if there had been a review of Helena Josefsson’s album. Then people would have said that this is The Daily Roxette, and there’s no room for anything else here.
Sometimes people aren’t too fair when judging things. And yes, I guess there are no reviews about Roxette just because there are no news about them. It might be kinda frustrating for some of us, but that’s not a reason to say this is The Daily Gessle (I think I have already read that somewhere :p)
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tevensso (moderator) said on June 25, 2007 18:52:
There was a review for the Helena album, or wasn’t there?? I forget. Thing is though, we don’t have any album to review. Kind of hard then.
miss-misery said on June 25, 2007 22:00:
I think there wasn’t... But I’m not sure. There was a note about the album.. and some people complained about it... Strange...
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Lantartida said on June 25, 2007 22:16:
Well, there is already a web for Helena’s fans http://www.helenaforum.net.tf but I think there’s no problem writing a little here about Helena’s first solo album because it was produced by Gessle (by the way, it was said in http://www.roxette.se/ too: “2007-02-02: Per’s company Elevator Entertainment is about to release its first non-Gessle album. It’s the most talented and lovely ms Helena Josefesson whose first solo-album “Dynamo” will be released through EMI February 28th.”).
I don’t understand the bad words against the TDR team. YOU do a GREAT work!
Lantartida said on June 25, 2007 22:23:
It’s easy to understand (or not?): they don’t have any album to review yet .. Nor do I! :(
Baby-C said on June 25, 2007 22:27:
“Kiwein1 said on June 25, 2007 11:33:
Well, there was a short article and interview with Micke in Expressen last weekend. Who would have thought that? :-) “
So.. if someone that noticed that, you for example, would have told us about it here on the TDR, or said anything about it to the people working with this site, Tev or Judith for instance... then there just might have been a english translation of it here... you can’t report about things you don’t know about. Right?
And to reply to the general topic here... If there’s nothing happening with Roxette.. then there is no news either. Simple as that. TDR reports about what’s happening in the ROXETTE WORLD. And Gessle solo, Micke Bolyos, Marie, GT, Helena... it’s all a part of the same thing.. isn’t it?
miss-misery said on June 26, 2007 14:47:
“And to reply to the general topic here... If there’s nothing happening with Roxette.. then there is no news either. Simple as that. TDR reports about what’s happening in the ROXETTE WORLD. And Gessle solo, Micke Bolyos, Marie, GT, Helena... it’s all a part of the same thing.. isn’t it?”
I agree 100%. That’s why I don’t understand why sometimes people complain if some of these people appear on this website. If there are no news about Roxette, I don’t think TDR are going to invent them!
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Roxrider_USA said on June 27, 2007 05:23:
Since when Helena and Micke Bolyos solo stuff are part of the Roxette world? That’s really out of line. Even if Marie or Per do backing vocals or sing a couple of songs on an album from Helena, Micke or any other artist for that matter, don’t necessarily qualify the albums from Helena and Micke as being part of the Roxette world. Albums that are part of the Roxette world are only and only those that carry the name of the people that make up Roxette, meaning that any album that is not attributed to Per, or Maire is not part of the Roxette world and therefore, should not be introduced in the daily Roxette. If people want to know about Helena and Micke , they should visit their sites.
However, i do think it’s appropriate to review only and only those tracks (songs) that are sung by Marie or Per that are part of an overall album from another artist. But, i beleive it’s not TDR’s job or mandate to review or promote albums that are not under the name of the two people that make up Roxette; Per and Marie.
Imagine TDR reviewing and commenting on all the cover songs and final versions of songs from the demos that Per or Marie gave to other artistis.This would definatelly not be THE DAILY ROXETTE. It would be much more a site presenting news on a wide range of artists. And that’s not what the name of the site indicates.
Therefore, i’m oppsoed to the idea that TDR should start placing reviews and news in its website about artists are not either Roxette, Per, Marie and /or their respective and related varying artist logos and names.
Take care!
Carlos E., New York
“Communication is key”
Robbie said on June 27, 2007 08:07:
@Roxrider_USA: Therefore, i’m oppsoed to the idea that TDR should start placing reviews and news in its website about artists are not either Roxette, Per, Marie
I agree, we do not need any front page articles like it happened before with artists like Helena, Mickael Bolyos, Brainpool, Micke Syd Andersson, MP Persson, or EMI, unless it’s published in the Off-Topic section.
roxwho said on June 27, 2007 11:53:
yea there should be like a off topic news section.. i really am not interested in anything else besides marie and per solo or roxette... as for mickael bolyos i think its fine that was covered on the news page as marie contributed to alot of that album... but for instance helena who really cares about her?? or brainpool?
coyboyusa said on June 27, 2007 12:18:
it just gives you a bad feeling that the rox chapter is completely closed, and alot of us wanted them to go out big, not with a whimper
daniel_alv said on June 27, 2007 16:29:
Do you people call the morning paper every day and complain about what they write about?
This is a newspaper about Roxette and everything that has to do with them. And Pers solo things is absolutley about Roxette. You can question if Helena and Micke is about Roxette, but since the TDR crew thinks it is (and accually I agree with them as long as it’s not to much about them), just deal with it. You see very fast what an article is about, If it’s about Per and you don’t want to read about him just skip reading it. And maybe in the future this page will be about Roxette again, when there is accually something to write about them.
miss-misery said on June 27, 2007 23:10:
I love fundamentalism :s
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Rox_Nox2003 said on June 28, 2007 04:25:
Yeah the so called “roxettefan fundametalism of complaning and hating” ... it’s been like that ever since HAND was released 8 years ago... and still goes on...
The true reason behind all this? The “Old” Roxette we grew up with and enjoyed went through a lot of changes and a lot of breaks in between that somehow now are making some of us ... going away from this speacial universe and making other struggle for a silly cause of wanting the “past” to be back as if,,,
But I guess life is in a way like that ... dealing with chances, passing through times, coping with new realities etc... and so is Roxette!
Yet for me, Roxette is just not the duo that sings those songs we all love (and hate) but all this whole Universe of people surrounding the band (either directly or not) and that somehow make this Universe an even better growing story everyday! So maybe most of us Helena’s solo work may have no interess at all as well as Mikael’s album ... or maybe ten years ago none of us would give a damm about Berlinda’s album contaning 2 Gessle songs in it.... but even those small things we overlook are also part of this Universe and also part of this story...
I have no problem with all the published stuff on TDR after all everything so far has been related to either Roxette the music of Roxette the people in the band ... if it’s boring so we just don’t need to read, do we?
And yes.. why iive in denial? If there’s nothing happening on the Rox camp why should we expect news day after day.... leave Marie taking her time, let Per enjoy his music ...and let things be the way they have to be... either we agree or not. Join the joyride that’s what this is all about! :)
Roxrider_USA said on June 28, 2007 16:41:
I’m not asking for Roxette news. How could i ask for Roxette news, if there’s no news to report on?
All i’m saying that i’m opposed to news stories concerning artists who albums do not carry the Roxette brand, Per’s or Marie’s. What’s the reasoning behind reporting on Helene or any other backing artist or singer, that just has limited partitipation or may be duet, in any of Per’s albums, just because the artist, in this case Helena, released a full album under her name? If we are to follow this logic, why not hem, start reporting on all the artistis that have been back-up artists in Roxette, Marie and Per, and even go farther and start reporting on what the guitar players and the players of any other intruments on the Roxette, Marie and Per bands are doing in their lives nowadays and from now on? Could you imagine TDR with so many unrelated and unconcerning stories that clearly have no importance at all and relevance to Roxette’s, Per’s and Marie’s brands. It’s not because an artist does backing vocals and a duet or because an artist has 4 songs on his’her ablum sung by Marie, that now those artists have become as worthy as Roxette, Per and Marie to reported on and have a place on the front page of The Daily ROXETTE.
As said before, if TDR wants to stay true to its ideal to report on Roxette, Per and Marie news, then TDR should only and only report on news legitimately concerning to those 3 artistis and their solo work, which involves any of their different artistical names. Otherwise, as in the cause of the Micke album, just report or review on the 4 songs that Marie, clearely is a major part of. Anything else on that album, is clearly not Roxette, Per or Marie releaded, as the whole project doesn’t carry Marie’s name or a possible different artistical name atributed to her.
Therefore, once again, i state my oposition to the placement and reporting of unrelated, unworthy, unimportant stories and revies anout artists that play none or minor roles in the Roxette, Per and Marie projects.
However, the point that the title of this thread tries to convey, is not legitimate because reporting on Per is part of TDR’s main and stated goal. It’s doesn’t matter we get a thousand stories about Per and none of Roxette or Marie, for Per, is a related and undeniable part of the Roxette brand and existence. If the title of the thread satated, “TDR turning into the TD Helena or TD Micke or TD whoever else”, i’d certainly agree with the point it would be trying to put across.
As glad to participate in healthy discussion in this community.
Take care ladies and gentlemen!
Carlos E., New York
“Communication is key”
miss-misery said on June 28, 2007 16:45:
@Roxrider_USA. If things were as you say, as strict as you want them to be, TDR would be dead in two months, for obvious reasons.
Let’s be a little bit open-minded, please!!
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Roxrider_USA said on June 28, 2007 20:16:
@miss-misery: With all due respect, what’s strict about living to the stated ideal and main focus of The Daily ROXETTE?
This is not like a tabloid in which anything should be fair game as long as the story or event has the slightest of slightest connection to Roxette, Per or Marie. I really don’t believe that the main goal , focus and name of this cool e-newspaper, is so broad as to include news and reviews about backing singers for Per, Roxette and Marie, Marie’s husband, or for that matter Per’s wife or even the musical instrument players for Roxette, Per and Marie.
Do you truely believe The Daily Roxette should be as broad as that to include all those unrelated, unnecessary stories? I just can’t grasp it.
But hey, i do appreciate your point and position.
Take care!
Carlos E., New York
“Communication is key”
Roxrider_USA said on June 28, 2007 20:41:
Hello everyone.
After reading and placing my opinion concerning the issue presented in this thread, and recognizing that for many here, it is utterly important to read stories about artists such as Helena and Micke just because they have family bonds or have participated in minor roles as backing vocals for Roxette, Per and Marie, i would like to propose that TDR open a separate section titled ” Unrelated Artist News”, so this way, those TDR members interested in the lives of any unrelated artist that has had or have or will have minor roles in any Roxette, Per or Marie albums and music, can have a place to inform themselves. Therefore, preventing these unrelated stories from being placed in the front page of The Daily ROXETTE, which was , after all, put together to talk about Roxette, Per , Marie and their solo projects under other names and their music, thus making all TDR fans much more confortable about visiting TDR and also, see that it’s a just and democratic ROXETTE, PER and MARIE site.
I hope my proposal is carefully considered and adopted as a way to make TDR an even more pleasent and great place to log on to.
Thanks for the attention.
Take care!
Carlos E., New York
“Communication is key”
tevensso (moderator) said on June 28, 2007 20:59:
I can only speak for myself, but I’m sure the rest of the staff is with me on this: isn’t it better to have a story about Micke or Helena or MP or whoever than to have nothing at all? I think so.
Roxrider_USA said on June 28, 2007 21:16:
I can certainly say i see nothing wrong with that, as long as, it’s placed on a different section of TDR, not the front page. So, i do believe that TDR should come up with the “Unrelated Artists News” section i proposed above, so then, yeah, any stories about any of those people you mentioned, would have their on section and not be in the front page, which, in my view should be totally dedicted to Roxette, Per and Marie.
Take care!
Carlos E., New York
“Communication is key”
thenicekai said on June 29, 2007 09:47:
The Daily Roxette is allowed to write about Roxette only? What about the New York Times? Only articles about what happens inside the city limits?
Roxette have always been more than only Marie and Per. It’s also the band, among others. I would have loved to know what music projects Anders, Mats, Jonas, Micke and all the others are involved in. You know, the whole Roxette family. And it’s always good to learn something new.
I still remember many many posts here in the TDR saying: “Oh, Per wrote a song for someone else or sang in the background, I MUST have the whole album in every version!!”... and now you don’t even want to know that it happened? Strange. Per is a very important musician in Sweden, with many influences on other artists, and he also influenced many careers. I think it is part of a good newspaper to report about this, too.
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Roxrider_USA said on June 29, 2007 16:02:
Well, under my proposal, you and any other TDR menbers like you who long for and like to read about unrelated and unimportant stories about other people, would have a separate section only for all those stories. I don’t see why TDR should be mixing news about Roxette and its two personalities with news about “Anders, Mats, Jonas, Micke and all the others” in the front page.
Having said that, i’m in no way shape or form, trying to prevent TDR from offering you and others who like to read about “all the others”, info concerning those people you mentioned above. That would not be fair and democratic. However, just like the New York Times, which has all its different sections fo r different kinds of news, and just as TDR with its Features page and the Offtopic, Roxette and the other sections, TDR should as well, like all the important and respected newspapers and e-newspapers, have different sections withing it, for different kind of news that are unrelated to Roxette, which are only Per and Marie and not, MP, Helena, Micke, Jonas, and oters.
PS: thenicekai, I’m certainly not one of the people that have said and still say that they must have everything and all versions of everything. So, for me to say that i would like to see unrelated news about other artists or people in a separate section on TDR, is not “Strange”, as you have stated above.
I believe my proposal is something really realistic and would make TDR be more organized and continue to evolve into a more reader friendly Roxette newspaper.
Take care!
Carlos E., New York
“Communication is key”
purplemedusa said on June 29, 2007 18:16:
Carlos, this time I can’t agree with you... I’m with TNK on this one when he states, “And it’s always good to learn something new.”. If anyone’s not interested in reading the related articles, they don’t HAVE to.
Roxrider_USA said on June 30, 2007 06:18:
@purplemedusa: Hey! How are you? :-)
Would you not agree to have a separate section of TDR in which you could have all the “it’s always good to learn something new.” stories and news about other people rather than Roxette, Per and Marie? Why have it mixed with the main storeis about Roxette, Per and Marie in the front page? It would clearly make TDR a more organized and user friendly site with a much more fair and democratic atmosphere. You guys would still get all those “good to learn” info and stories, but in a separate and reserved page just for it all. I really believe it’s a really good idea and not offensive or discriminatory at all.
Take care!
Carlos E., New York
“Communication is key”
miss-misery said on July 3, 2007 23:04:
I still can’t see why TDR is not such a “user friendly site” when informing about news about MP, Gyllene Tider, Mikael Boylos, Helena Josefsson... etc. I think everything is related, and as far as I’m concerned, if I’m not interested about something, I just won’t read it.
@Tevensso: This time I utterly agree with you.
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Jud (moderator) said on July 5, 2007 08:58:
I think many people appreciate to read about other Roxette related artists, and I don’t see a problem having this on the front page, like with any other newspaper you can clearly see with the headline what the article is about, and you can choose to read it or not, I don’t see why these articles would disturb anybody? or why they should be moved to another section? Just ignore the articles if you are not interested, can’t be that difficult? Same if you don’t like Per or you don’t like Marie, it’s oh just so easy to skip reading one article! I do that daily when I read some online newspapers ;-)
Regarding ...
... why Per news, no Roxette news: well, there is nothing going on about Rox, should we have an article monthly (weekly?) stating there are no ROxette news at the moment? And ... Micke’s album: there is nothing going on with it except what we published already. Micke & family are on holidays so there won’t be an interview in the next month either.
PS: I wish my life was so uncomplicated? so I had time to endlessly debate about these issues O_o But I guess then I would spend my time doing other stuff then ;-)
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pwbbounce (moderator) said on July 15, 2007 09:49:
Roxette.se made me chuckle the other day when I had a look at it. Under the Roxette News section it said “There is no news on Roxette at the moment”!!! lol I guess that’s why there is no news on TDR as well then!!
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Icegirl said on July 19, 2007 21:24:
Personally you can’t fault TDR for news coverage and I think they do a good job, I see nothing wrong with them reporting about the solo stuff of Per, Marie or there family or even other members or artists that have worked with Roxette. Most fans are happy to hear all the news especially those who perhaps collect everything related etc…
The simple answer is if you don’t like the news articles that are appearing then you don’t have to actually read them!
FirstGirlOnTheMoon said on June 24, 2007 16:40:
In all fairness, there has not been much Roxette news to report on lately. And when there was (RoxBox, Hits, etc), it was reported on.
I guess the fact that Per is unable to sit still might be the reason why it seems like “The Daily Per Gessle”. Personally, I enjoy Per’s solo projects and TDR makes the news accessible to those of us who don’t understand Swedish (i.e. on www.gessle.com and www.enhandigman.se)
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