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English teacher???
31 replies
jill said on May 20, 2006 20:34:
Is it truth, that Per worked as an English teacher, when he’s joung?
chrisjankunas said on May 21, 2006 00:06:
LOL LOL LOL Never heard that. Judging by his ’86 lyrics probably not. He he he. Judging by his ’95 lyrics probably not. He he. But maybe I dunno. Roxette rocks anyhow !
Sparvogamarie said on May 21, 2006 06:23:
I doubt that, it would be a bit stupid to have an English teacher that doesn’t speak perfect English. Per speaks good English but certainly not perfect. I never saw the point of having teachers who are teaching a language other than their mother tongue, but I do know a Dutch girl who teaches English. It seems stupid to me, that would be like me teaching Swedish, I can speak it but never as well as a native!!!
ditroia said on May 21, 2006 06:46:
Per Did work as a teacher’s assistant I think, for a short while before GT became a success.
Dave
PeterGm said on May 21, 2006 06:47:
yes, i do have a vague idea that in some interview he did teach English...but I have the feeling it was to small children privately.
Max-Tob said on May 21, 2006 06:49:
Yes. He was a teacher for a while, but he said that he had to stop when gt became a bit famous and the kids were asking for autographes. But don’t know if his matter was English. Never heard of it.
Lurirox said on May 21, 2006 07:00:
@Sparvogamarie: In what kind of world do you live?? Only mother tongue speakers should teach their language? Well, yes of course that would be great - but it’s absolutely not possible! Do you know how much teachers are needed to teach english in all not english-speaking countries? I think nearly all english-mother tongue speakers would have to be teachers... That’s some kind of illusion, right?!
EDIT: It’s sometimes even better not to have a mother tongue speaker as a teacher becouse all others know much more about the problems with learning the language because they selve had to learn it. They can much better explain the grammar ot the other language because they have learned it from the beginning. It’s extremely difficult to explain the grammar of your own mother tongue - most people can’t. But adults often can’t learn a new language in the same way small children learn their mother tongue, so they need a good teacher who knows where the problems are and how to explain them.
Sparvogamarie said on May 21, 2006 07:07:
Jeez Lucirox settle down. I do think it’s stupid, because a non-native usually doesn’t speak perfectly unless they learned very early in life. And there are a lot of programs that send native English speakers to other countries for that reason. Anyway whatever your opinion, no need to get so friggin upset about it.
skuhm said on May 21, 2006 09:10:
Sparvogamarie and Lurirox, I think both of you have a point. As Luri says, non-native speakers have a different kind of knowledge about the language they’re teaching, and therefore understand more easily the problems his/her students may have. Sure, a native speaker will have a much better pronunciation, a more natural flow, intonation, rythm and that kind of aspects which a foreigner will hardly master.
On the other hand, native speakers are indeed sent abroad to teach their language, but I think this is mainly aimed at small children who can start learning a new language in a natural way, just like
they learn their mother language, or at teens/adults
who already have a certain degree of knowledge of the language in question and mainly need to improve their skills.
I think a native speaker teaching an adult with no knowledge at all about the language would be, funnily enough, much less effective than a non-native speaker.
Santi said on May 21, 2006 10:20:
I think that for the sake of “better flow” and good pronunciation you can watch films or listen to tapes of native people, which all language teachers do a lot.
Actually I wonder how could I teach Spanish, I don’t even know how to start, and it would have come in very handy to get some money when I was living in Sweden or in The Netherlands... but I just can’t see how :s
I think Per could be a great English teacher. In some places they taught English with Roxette songs, go figure! :D
miss-misery said on May 21, 2006 13:44:
Sparvogamarie:
You’ve hurt my feelings. How can u say i cant do my own job?? So, after four years studying at university, one year in England, a teaching course, hard competitive exams, and my (brief) experience, I can’t teach English just because I’m Spanish??
So let’s just kick out the thousands and thousands Spanish teachers of English, just because they happened to have been born in...I don’t know, Madrid??
You’re a bit of a fundamentalist, hahaha.
(I’m joking, u didn’t hurt my feelings, but your comment sounded so assertive that i just had to reply....)
By the way, it’s curious that Mr.Gessle was a teacher and later he became a musician performing all over the world. This makes me think that maybe teachers are like performers.... just a thought.
wolves said on May 21, 2006 17:00:
@sparvögamarie
What is with your Worship-Marie-Site???
that was a very great Site!!!!
Patty87 said on May 22, 2006 14:54:
hey. I’ve got an old articel from a magazine about roxette. There the text says, that Per worked as a teacher. But it says not, what he teached. So, I’m not sure if he really was a teacher. I can’t imagine that.
purplemedusa said on May 22, 2006 15:10:
Surely there’s nothing wrong with teaching Swenglish! But i’d much rather give guitar lessons to the deaf or wheelchair racing to the armless!
Sparvogamarie said on May 24, 2006 06:35:
MissMisery: LOL, well I haven’t heard your English so I can’t say how good of a teacher you are. But the fact is, no matter how hard a person studies they usually don’t speak as well as a native (though obviously not all natives speak their language clearly). A non native often misses small things in the language and passes them onto their students. My Swedish teacher was actually a native English speaker. Sometimes I asked for a word and he didn’t know it in Swedish even though he lived there for decades. So I don’t change my opinion, sorry, I’ll always choose a native speaker to teach me a language.
But if you’re giving Spanish lessons, I’d love to take them from you ;)
Sparvogamarie said on May 24, 2006 06:42:
Wolves: my site was hosted on roxette.org, and when it disappeared so did my site. I’m not passionate enough about it to pay for webhosting, and there’s no decent free hosting (if anyone knows one let me know, I have the whole site on my computer, it just needs a home)
Santi: You said you wanted to teach Spanish, you might be able to take a course. For English speakers at least, you can take a short course that teaches you how to teach your own language to others without becoming an actual teacher. Maybe Spain has a similar program? I want to learn Spanish, though I want to study Latin American. It’s a good way to travel, my friend just finished her English teachers course.
colinvdbel (moderator) said on May 24, 2006 07:29:
Well, I’m an English teacher myself. Native teachers have both pro’s and con’s. for instance, they might even be less familiar with certain aspects of the basics (they learned them passively). Moreover, you don’t want students to learn perfect British or American English. they should know international English, learn to communicate not only with British and American people but also people speaking English whose native language isn’t English. Anyways, I think Per wasn’t an English teacher, and it’s weird to see so many teachers here ;)
miss-misery said on May 25, 2006 19:58:
Spargovamarie, if you want Spanish lessons from me, you should know i get paid 12€/hour. LOL.
Well, i might make an exception and give some free Spanish lessons on-line.
First lesson: una cerveza, por favor.
Although I bet you already knew that ;)
Cheers!
Santi said on May 25, 2006 23:27:
I’ll put that first lesson in Madrid’s slang:
“Eh, una birra, venga”.
:P
Sparvogamarie said on May 26, 2006 04:22:
Miss-Misery: Are you sure you’re not Marie Fredriksson???? That’s the first thing she would say in Spanish, I’m sure of it. ;)
sweetcheeks said on May 26, 2006 06:33:
I wonder what he taught them.........must have been quite interesting! ;-P
miss-misery said on May 26, 2006 18:47:
Dear Sparvogamarie:
No, I’m not Marie Frediksson. My hair is too long and dark, I’m not that slim... and the most important thing of all....
I CAN’T SPEAK ANY SWEDISH!!
You liked my first Spanish lesson, did you? There’s another one, similar to the first one.
Por favor, un Cacique con cola
Which is the most common way to ask a rum&coke drink in Spain, at least the one I use :-)
BTW, Did P.G. study any degree or something like that to be an assistant teacher?? Just curious about teaching training abroad...
daniel_alv said on May 28, 2006 18:05:
why not? our englishteacher in the 6th grade had to ask the boy from england how to spell “eagle”. So Per would be better then her.
I had to different spanish teachers and the one that was born in spain was the best! she was not the best at swedish but she was better at learning me speak spanish..
Mr_Floppy said on May 29, 2006 13:25:
No, not really. He can say some words in german and he can understand a few. But that’s it. Of course he learned it at school but he remained quite unsuccessful.
Mr_Floppy said on May 29, 2006 13:34:
I’ve heard him speaking a few words in german a long time ago. That sounded cute.
japeke said on May 20, 2006 21:30:
Never heard this before, so I guess: no.