colinvdbel (moderator) said on January 13, 2006 16:12:

Haha don’t ask here. Ask their own site.

ChrisWilliams said on January 13, 2006 18:29:

wooo bitchy ;-)

Zelda said on January 13, 2006 19:13:

This fanclub suxx. Sorry for that.
But there is no artist who has such fc problems like Roxette have. The fc team is really boring.

johan1 said on January 13, 2006 20:37:

Thanks for your support fc team... I asked here because I thought someone here would know. Someone who know?

steven said on January 13, 2006 21:07:

Genuine question to Thomas, Judith and TDR staff.

If you feel that the fanclub is operating in a questionable manner, why don’t you use your exposure to Per and highlight this fact?

It would seem a far better use of your resources rather than constantly post scandalous comments about them on a public forum.

Zelda said on January 13, 2006 21:38:

What’s with the austrian or german Roxette fanclub?

Please tell me anything about it!!!!

Jud (moderator) said on January 13, 2006 21:49:

well, I’d say he is, he’s not stupid ;)

And.. what Austrian / German Fanclub? There used to be an Austrian FC (independent, not connected to NL) but it closed some years ago.

There is/was a German and Austrian “Division” or “Rep office” but have no clue if the people are still around, I quit long ago so all I know about the current situation is what I read (and some people tell me) and what I know from experience..

steven said on January 13, 2006 21:58:

Stupid? Never. He’s a successfull businessman.

That does not necessarily mean he’s aware of customer satisfaction issues at a grass roots level.

Unless of course, those closest to him have feedback the issues, (which I very much doubt).

I believe your comments regarding his “awareness” to be entirely circumstantial, speculative and lacking substance.

steven said on January 13, 2006 22:04:

And another thing...

I was told you were sacked from the fanclub rather than left as you suggest?

Just wondering...

steven said on January 13, 2006 22:06:

@ Zelda

Because like other fan websites, I’m 100% unofficial, a benefit of which is that I can be entirely independant and objective.

steven said on January 13, 2006 22:17:

Riiiiiiiight ;)

steven said on January 13, 2006 22:28:

Doubt it.

steven said on January 13, 2006 22:31:

Why? Because I simply can’t get my head around the fact that “if” it’s a problem and “if” Per knows then why is he allowing the issues to continue.

It just does not make sense.

steven said on January 13, 2006 22:41:

Allow me to assist...

You say HE knows...?

Ok, I’ll play along with that...

That would mean 1 of 2 scenarios:

1. He doesn’t care.
2. He doesn’t have the ability to “fix” the issue.

You decide.

shannyn77 said on January 14, 2006 01:51:

Yaaaay!!!! More rude Tev comments - who would have thought......................

tevensso (moderator) said on January 14, 2006 10:28:

Great useful comment from Shannon, who woulda thought...

@Purple: Yes, I think TDR is great (needless to say), but I don’t think we want to be “official”, supported yes, but official gives a lot of “musts” too. Like nl for instance weren’t allowed to write that Marie bailed from the X-mas concert a few years back, while TDR had no problems with it.

Jud (moderator) said on January 14, 2006 12:52:

I would vote for a shop in the official website for merchandise only (other Swedish shops work great when it comes to releases) and contests / special things like the BHD project, I don’t think there is any need for more.

One can say “what about those who have no access to internet” -> by the time a review (once a year+ nowadays) reaches them, tours/ albums are long gone.

purplemedusa said on January 14, 2006 13:03:

Woops... yeah ofcourse that’s what we all love about TDR - the play between unofficial (where we can drop a bomb or two every now&then) and something more regulated (without illegal downloading and an odd qwirk about how Dimberg’s doing her best to run Roxette into the ground)...

but wait

.... what’s the point of having some fanclub to act as some go-between between artist & fans; why the hell does he not take the position of addressing things himself - yeah he does that every now & then but how about just a regular blogging every week re:questions he’s received or saw coming up in the forums... that would save a lot of time for him (he doesn’t have to anwser so many questions) and the fans gets their answers. Enough with all the formallities... we’re in the digital age now where Artist can directly adress fans without fear of intrusion - you CAN delete emails LOL!!!

Am I making any sense... ?

onlywhenidream said on January 14, 2006 15:51:

i don’t want to get drawn into the FC/ TDR debate. I don’t even bother reading the FC site, it’s shite.

But when it comes to Per and the internet, he’s not made the best decisions has he! I mean, just look at Boxman...gulp!

I think the SOAP/ Rox/ GT/ PG site is good, they can just rotate the promotion of the pages depending on which act is about at the time, and TDR stays the unofficial official voice of fans.

let’s all take a chill pill and enjoy the ride! (again!)

tevensso (moderator) said on January 14, 2006 17:36:

That’s your opinion. And it’s been noted - several times.

shannyn77 said on January 14, 2006 21:18:

Tev - the name is Shannyn - and I’m completely useful ...thanx

Harplinge96 said on January 15, 2006 12:36:

Everyone has his story with the FC I think. I am not a member for years anymore, because I thought it was senseless to wait for a review with old news. And they don’t act like an official FC should do (in my eyes).
But if you do such a job you have a responsibility I think.
A lot of poeple are unpleasant about it. On R2R is also a very interesting toppic about it. I think judith post the link.

If Per knows about it? I think so. But I am not sure if he knows about the WHOLE thing. But who wants to tell him?
I think it is sad that Roxette have not such a good FC they should have.

Yeah, because of Internet we don’t need it for news or something like that that much, but I always liked the idea of having a thing where people come together, because they have the same interests.
Maybe that are forum like TDR, R2R and the others are now. The modern FC. Everyone cares for everyone.

I think the TDR people would be a good FC, because they do everything wiht heart, but I understand what you wrote about it with the news which you maybe are not allowed to bring and of course your time. Sometimes in life you just have to choose between twi things.

But I am sure there are a lot of people outthere who would make a good and fair FC. The questions are just:
- Where are you ;-)
- How would a new FC look like? What would be the idea?

Well, that is just my opinion. Normally I just read here, but once in a while I just have to come along ;-)

Bye!

Jud (moderator) said on January 15, 2006 15:08:

what you mention above can be done in conexion with the artist official website, like bon jovi or melissa etheridge, to mention a few.

japeke said on January 15, 2006 16:00:

@Judith: I guess you mean Backstage with Jon Bon Jovi??? If so, indeed, that’s where I gotmy ideas from....

Breathe8 said on January 15, 2006 18:28:

I don´t know official Roxette Fan club but I know official Queen Fan club (I am a member of this fan club since 1996) and never I had a problem with it. They do conventions, trips, offer Queen stuff publish 4 magazines a year (I know it´s not much) and so on. When you write them, always they write you back.

Also I wanted to become a member of Roxette fan club but I dind´t become in the end. Other fan clubs I don´t know too.

roxtexanet said on January 15, 2006 20:40:

@purple: Actually, I really hate Alanis’ website (love her music, though)! I find it really cluttered, it rarely has the news her fans most care about (at least in my experience) and has so many weird “look-at-me-I’m-an-artiste” things (“musings” “cherish” “paintbox”) that mean absolutely nothing to me... I have no idea what I’m going to get when I click those things. Your point is taken, though, that Alanis’ site provides some guidelines for interesting ways artists can use the web to connect with fans.

I actually think the new roxette.se looks exactly as I think an official Roxette site should look (well, up-to-date news would be great but short of flat-out making it up, there’s nothing they could put there right now anyway!): clear, professional, easy to navigate, complete interactive discography, etc. I’m looking forward to seeing updates appear as Rox comes back to life in the next year...

roxtexanet said on January 16, 2006 04:33:

@purple: I have checked that stuff out... and won’t again! (-: I think in general I’m mostly just interested in “the facts” about the artists I like... don’t really want to hear their thoughts about anything other than their own music (and I definitely don’t want to see their poetry or paintings or whatever, and that includes Marie!). But I do read Shirley Manson’s (Garbage) studio diary entries religiously because they’re absolutely hilarious sometimes! If you haven’t seen them, they’re really something else (warning... stay away if you’re a fan of J.Lo, Britney, X-tina et al. ...!!!). But I guess a lot of fans want that personal connection with their idols... I’m a bit odd that way I guess... I like to idolize at a distance (-;

Harplinge96 said on January 16, 2006 10:17:

I checked Alanis side, as I really like her, and I like the side too. OK, some things are not that interesting to me, but anyway a great thing there!

Rich-UK said on January 16, 2006 20:20:

I agree with Ally. I’m sure he’d rather spend his time getting a US compilation out than putting effort into sorting out a fanclub which (as others have said) has become rather superfluous in recent times. All the best, Rich ;-)

Bunio said on January 16, 2006 21:42:

i think Per should “fire” everyone from the FC and hire new people from different countries with new ideas. Roxette fans deserve to have FC - just like japeke said.

Baby-C said on January 17, 2006 00:19:

Yea... since the one we have (or don’t have actually) don’t work and I’ve been questioning their motive for still running the FC for years already... we really only have 2 options.

1. Have EMI or Per or whatever is in charge of it being an “official” FC, to atleast withdraw the official status.
Because it just don’t deserve to be. And it’s sure not right to put their website adress in the CD-booklets. Dunno if it’s been in there in the latest Roxette releases, but anyway. It’s just not right.

2. Fire the entire FC and start a new one.
With it’s head quarter in Sweden, would be the best I think, especially for Fanshop deliveries
(not having to first order the stuff from EMI Sweden, have it shipped to the Netherlands or wherever, pack it and THEN ship to the customer. Seems a bit too much work even for me and does surely not help to get cheap prices in the shop).
And also with “local offices” in lets say... one in a german speaking part of the world, like I dunno.. Germany. And then one in a spanish speaking counry and one in an english speaking contry. Then I think most people in the world can find an office that handles the FC-issues in a langauge they feel comfortable with. I don’t think it’s nessesary to have offices in every single contry.

Needless to say that I’d might be willing to help out with it also.

Harplinge96 said on January 17, 2006 12:43:

I think a lot of people here would liek to help and would do a good job. No doubt. Bayb-C I think you had good thoughts about how to work it out step by step! Well, that’s my opinion.

Bunio said on January 17, 2006 20:50:

Yes, there are many good and fresh ideas how to bring it to life, but someone (i think Per) must do the first step.

ally77 said on September 25, 2006 00:19:

Well there where a few topics to choose from that have been previously discussed on the FC but I decided this one was the best to comment on (rather than starting another topic).

I am cross posting this here and at R2R…. How many people are still waiting for refunds on credits that the FC still owes them?

I know this was a much talked about topic back at R2R http://forum.runtoroxette.com/index.php?topic=2078.0 and questions have been raised again on there in this past month!

Refunds where promised after the summer and I am curious as to if plans have been made and organised yet to issues those refunds to people? Or are they going to be thrown another excuse?

I clearly said I did not wish for a refund as I was only perhaps owned a few euros and that decision remains for me right now, but there are people out there that would like refunds and I think it’s only fair they see them perhaps this side of Christmas!

Anyone finally going to offer an answer on this and perhaps confirm one way or another if refunds are to be issued. They where promised after the summer, well I consider summer to be well and truly over now as we are moving into October next week!

It would be nice just to know when the Fanclub issues will finally be tied up.

pwbbounce (moderator) said on September 25, 2006 07:46:

To be honest, I’d actually forgotten all about the FC. I think I’m owed 2 issues of the review, which I can’t even pretend to be bothered about. I paid that around 2 years, so it’s forgotten about. Was all the orders finally dispatched or are we still waiting for some??

japeke said on September 25, 2006 10:12:

Lets invite Tevensso and Steven for this topic :-)

(look at page 1... :-)

Superbullie said on September 25, 2006 13:52:

they owe me 12 € and 2 or 3 reviews.

i fear i will never see it again. what can we do now?

ally77 said on September 25, 2006 16:55:

Thomas, excuse me whilst I pull myself off the floor laughing....

Perhaps the issues of the overdue refunds would make a good article for TDR.... maybe then someone at EMI or the management might take notice...

ally77 said on September 28, 2006 06:24:

Judith I might do that..... I have some spare time on my hands right now, so it would be a good idea.... :)

*edit* ... done!

ally77 said on September 28, 2006 18:39:

One of the FC people has posted at R2R that they are going to be discussing issues this weekend, so watch this space...

ally77 said on September 29, 2006 07:22:

Seen the news page at the front!

The hacked website has been removed within the past couple of minutes!

ally77 said on September 29, 2006 07:36:

Yes I see it again now... could have been my internet faulty connection not connecting... playing up like crazy for me now!

Txiqui said on September 29, 2006 08:59:

roxette doesn’t need a new fanclub, they allready have this site and rox.se. Lately Per has been more o less in touch with fans, he has been sending messages to soap site or to this site, i hope he will continue doing the same in the future. He has even shared his demos with all of us.
It’s true that other artist get more involved with fans as others don’t even bother about it at all, so i guess that we can’t really fuss about it couse it could be even worse, we could get no messages or comunication at all. And a fanshop?? whats the point of having a fanshop if you never get the things you buy or you get them late (11 months after you bought it), in my opinion cdon, skivhugget and other online shops can do it perfectly.
So i can’t see any reason for roxette to create a new fanclub.

Lars-Erik_Olson (moderator) said on September 29, 2006 16:03:

There is a story related to this discussion topic on the Features page. Click on the Features tab above.

Jud (moderator) said on September 30, 2006 09:19:

Ally: “The real answer to this is that if they are honest there is no money left, only debts.... but it would seem they prefer to just tell lies to all those fans who have paid subscribtions over the years before they will be honest and admit the truth!”

I wonder why this doesn’t surprise me at all! ;)

Jud (moderator) said on September 30, 2006 19:19:

I would like to know how you are suppose to check facts proper when no one replies to emails!!!!!!!!! and for the past TWO weeks messages on R2R have been ignored despite the fact Sarah has been posting elsewhere in that forum!!!!!!!!!

>> and you don’t even want to get the money back, imagine those who want to! Besdies the fact that they consider SPAM any email you would send asking about refund/credit ;)

“Please do not spam us with requests as to what is happening with your credits. We are fully aware of them and finding the best way to meet everyone’s needs in an efficient and practical manner.”

Sounds professional, doesn’t it? ;) So.. customers are a pain in the ...

Funny how, everytime somebody starts to ask about the FC issues again and we end up publishing an article, a message on their website pops-up :D

I don’t know what facts are wrong anyway, the fanclub owes money, there was nothing from the FC for months (except Sarah’s comments), and things are still not solved (and they won’t be for the next 3 months at least). And it is pretty clear that the big problem is missing funds in the books or?

ally77 said on October 1, 2006 07:02:

I think all that is left is debts.... there should be no reason for people to email asking for refunds they should do it automatically...

What about those fans who are not online that can’t get an email with the information (although I don’t think they sent a mass email to everyone - as I have nothing).....

Are they just expecting people to log on to there forum daily and wait for updates!

Not everyone has access to the internet!!!!!!!!!

tevensso (moderator) said on October 1, 2006 20:36:

AND you won’t get refunds, you’ll get merchandise that is left over that you don’t probably want. Ha ha ha!!!

ally77 said on October 8, 2006 16:38:

Is anyone else slightly disgusted at the fact the FC cannot be bothered to contact fans who have paid membership fees and tell them that it is closed...

They seem to be blinkered that everyone has access to the internet and knows it has folded....

ally77 said on October 8, 2006 18:42:

They take the money, then in return you are suppose to get 4 reviews and 4 newsletters...

I mean officially they have not even told me that the fanclub is no more other than a mere statement on there website months ago....

Don’t people understand that there is still a lot of people without internet access...

The least they could have done was a simple A4 newsletter or mail drop saying it had closed to all those people who paid membership fees!

ally77 said on October 8, 2006 20:16:

I know.... at least TDR has it’s uses! :) Otherwise www.roxette.nl would still be sporting the hacked page and no news I think!