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Jo-Anna Says - Airplay in European Radios
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andi11 said on January 10, 2006 15:22:
Just wondered if Jo-Anna Says gets any airplay in radio stations you know? I sent an email to the station in my area (4th biggest in Switzerland) two weeks ago and they’re playing the song at least twice a day now! It’s great, isn’t it?
So it might be a good idea if Rox-/Per-Fans all over Europe would send an email to their favourite radio station as well. Just attach the song and ask if they would play it!
andi11 said on January 10, 2006 16:07:
but still, some airplay won’t hurt ;) the international release as the second single, why not?
tevensso (moderator) said on January 10, 2006 16:55:
Plus it’s illegal to send non-released songs to radio stations, technically.
andi11 said on January 10, 2006 22:08:
@tev: is it really? That’s what I was thinking about. But isn’t it the radio station’s problem when they play a song that hasn’t been released? And Per’s not bothered anyway, I guess. I mean, why should he be? He can only benefit from it!
ChrisWilliams said on January 11, 2006 01:25:
I don’t think it’s illegal. If a single is released and can be imported by music fans, then it can be played on the radio.. Or so I think.
ditroia said on January 11, 2006 01:39:
As long as they pay royalties. A lot of Radio Stations play songs that weren’t singles, they must have some arrangment.
Dave
Room_service said on January 11, 2006 05:10:
I wouldn’t say “international” single or “international” release of SOAP. I would say “European” instead. This album won’t be released outside of Europe, that’s a fact.
Ifik said on January 11, 2006 08:47:
If it´s illegal?! Haha. If you think like this, than ROX would maybe never get so successful!!! Do you remember the story with USA and The look???!
Room_service said on January 11, 2006 14:46:
Some people said that story about the student is not totally accurate. Now, I don’t know what to think. Was it real or not?
ThePopHits said on January 11, 2006 19:17:
of course the exchange student story was true. Some Roxers can even name him but me I don´t remember his name right now.
D something?
EmEx said on January 11, 2006 23:16:
I dont think the radio has to pay royalties to the artist its free advertisment for them anyways
Starrox said on January 11, 2006 23:20:
Huh, what makes you think THAT? Of course they have to pay royalties!
EmEx said on January 12, 2006 01:42:
If that is true why are the Radiostations not sued when they play songs that havent been released yet?
ChrisWilliams said on January 12, 2006 14:52:
With major radio stations, a log/record/note is kept of every song they play. This list is given to the MCPS (depending on where you live.) The artist, the record label and publisher then get their money according to how many plays their song receives. In the UK, BBC Radio 1 will pay about £50 each time they play a song.
With smaller radio stations, they don’t look at every song that’s played. A “sample” is taken. For example, if Madonna gets played 5 times a day, it’s more likely she’ll be in that “sample list” than Michael Ball having a crack at Phantom Of The Opera, who might only get played once. The people in this sample list will then get paid, because there isn’t enough money to pay *everyone who gets played* a good amount.. See what I mean? :-) As a side issue, some artists aren’t happy with this, as it means they don’t get paid at all... But then, if everyone got paid, it’d only be a few pence or cents.
ChrisWilliams said on January 12, 2006 14:56:
@ tev
Just wondering why you thought it was illegal to send unreleased songs to a radio station..?
tcooh said on January 12, 2006 15:59:
Radiostations, cafes, work places, or just in plain any place which plays music, has to pay a fee to the artists organisations for playing music. Radiostations report which sogns they play, where as public places playing music pays more general fees, unless they play certain cds, instead of for instance playing a radio.
xeven said on January 12, 2006 17:26:
I think STIM and similar organisations inspects the stations pretty well. The stations pays a charge counted on how many listeners and how much playtime. STIM then divides the money on the artists. Internet radio isn’t controlled that much and the STIM money from internet radio is given to the artist that gets the most airplay in standard radio(!) which is really bad beause internet radio stations often play artists that isn’t very etablished but the money still goes to the big artists like Mr.G.
EmEx said on January 13, 2006 03:25:
Thanks for your answers ChrisWilliams , tcooh and xeven
i didnt know this
$50 for playing a song just once sounds like a LOT to me i thought they get like $1 or something
man Marie and Per must be super Rich
It must have been Love =4.000.000 x $50= $200 million!!!!!!!!
Not to forget all the other songs like Listen to your heart 2.000.000 x $50= $100.000.000
R you sure they get that much????
Starrox said on January 13, 2006 13:20:
£50, not $50! ;-) And no, it’s not that much everywhere, it depends on a number of things in addition to the number of listeners... Plus, the money usually gets divided between e.g. the composer, the singer/band and, of course, the record company or copyright owner (which is why Per gets more royalties than Marie does).
tevensso (moderator) said on January 13, 2006 13:52:
I work at a (small) radio station and we aren’t allowed to play mp3s that we don’t have physical copies of the record of, unless the record company specifically has allowed it.
ChrisWilliams said on January 13, 2006 14:14:
Thanks for your reply, tev, but I was wondering why you said: “it’s illegal to send non-released songs to radio stations, technically.”
In response to your reply; what’s this got to do with Jo-Anna Says? A physical copy can be sent to the record station, so there’s no issue with this song being unreleased :-)
It’s great that so many people know about this! :-D
EmEx said on January 13, 2006 14:27:
tevensso do you have to pay royaltis to play a song on your station?
EmEx said on January 13, 2006 14:28:
thx Starrox yeah your right didnt think about that but still they(Per and Marie) must make a good income from their royalities they wouldnt have to work another day in their lifes
tevensso (moderator) said on January 13, 2006 22:40:
Yes, we pay STIM.
No, it’s perfectly OK to send them a record, but it surely looks like they mean mp3s to me. So, in short, a record OK, an mp3 not OK - in general.
xeven said on January 13, 2006 23:39:
Every internet radiostation plays mp3 files. Is it okey for them?
And btw, i’ve heard RixFM playing a mp3 file this summer. They said it were their first time and didn’t know if it was legal. I think it was a preview of a song that an artist brought to the studio.
andi11 said on January 14, 2006 11:56:
I think they downloaded it from a legal download shop (such as mycokemusic.ch), so it must be legal!
Harplinge96 said on January 15, 2006 12:39:
That is interesting. I always thought it would be OK to play a song in the radio as long as you pay for it. Good to know...!
daniel_alv said on January 26, 2006 14:09:
probably the mp3 playing thing is about the deal with STIM. If they have a deal with STIM to play all their music or not. P3 plays albums tracks so it’s not true that you never can play songs that are not singles. Maybe someone should write STIM and ask?
EDIT:
the answer seems to be, pay STIM and you can play almost every song in the world..
http://www.stim.se/stim/prod/stimfaq.nsf/VanligaFragor/27B803A2B77D39D5C1256B590030735B!OpenDocument
Sascha said on January 10, 2006 16:04:
Think it’s a bit early when the album doesn’t get released for another 8 weeks. And the international single isn’t even decided yet if I remember right...