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DEBATE # 1. Premarital Sex
26 replies
chippy205 said on December 5, 2005 06:24:
are you INFAVOR or Not in premarital sex.
Note: i have no intention to put dirty topic.
this is a nice debate.
pwbbounce (moderator) said on December 5, 2005 11:29:
Some people in most places can’t avoid having premarital sex (ie gay people!!!)
It’s an age old debate which people are never going to agree on, I think. It’s up to the individual person if they don’t want to “do it” before being married. But premarital sex doesn’t seem to be as frowned apon as it was a few back.
silverROSES said on December 5, 2005 11:47:
I think it’s cool!!!!!!
But I value myself more than pleasure!
But I’m not against those people who are doing it their life anyway! Enjoy it!!!
rox-kuryliw said on December 5, 2005 11:49:
i agree pwbbounce , and no way im dying a virgin lol, But if people want to wait till after marrage i respect them for it.
TinyBubbles said on December 5, 2005 13:28:
For me its not about before or after getting married. Its more about sharing myself with only one person. That’d be nice.
I am concerned with the number of sexual partners people have these days. I might not be religlious but i do believe your own body and soul is something that at least you yourself have to respect.
realsuga said on December 5, 2005 18:22:
If I believed in saving myself til I got wed, I woulda been married, like at 11 years old or livin in Kentucky!;-)
realsuga said on December 5, 2005 18:26:
and there’s an old expression which I believe in: ”you gotta try before you buy”.......:-)
zaine said on December 5, 2005 21:04:
to me it’s not a pre-marital issue, but a ’pre-love’ issue. I believe that there is one person for you, and I don’t see why people want more than that.
I know its a bit deep, but this is a quote from the bible that someone once told me. Although I don’t follow the bible religiously, this touched me...
’Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the holy spirit who is in you, whom you have received from God?You are not your own; you were brought at a price. Therefore honour God with your body’
DaminehGessle said on December 5, 2005 23:27:
realsuga: hahah I guess that said it all eh ;).
What if someone never finds that “one”? What if every person you are with is the “one”. I don’t think that “one” everyone talks about exists. We make up that “one”. The one person I thought was it, wasn’t. And then I lost faith. Look around, at yourself, at your friends and count how many times each of you thought you had found your one and well it never worked out?!
There is nothing wrong with having fun and still having value for yourself. They are 2 different things. I don’t want to get married just yet so I won’t just wait around. We all have needs. Why not?
ncurran said on December 6, 2005 13:04:
why would anyone be against it apart from a religious point of view? I certainly think that people dont take sex seriously enough, but it is a very personal decision and it pisses me off when people preach about it. Personally I have been quite promiscuous in the past, but these days are behind me now. I wouldnt jump into bed with just anyone nowadays, but i certainly wont be waiting until marriage (or a civil partnership as it is called for gay people at the moment.)
ally77 said on December 7, 2005 08:14:
I have no issues with this, but I do think it’s nice to wait for the right person, maybe I am too old to talk like this, but I see no fun in just sleeping around for the hell of it!
kachina008 said on December 7, 2005 11:08:
“I don’t think that “one” everyone talks about exists. We make up that “one”. The one person I thought was it, wasn’t. And then I lost faith. “
There is too :P losing faith is the real tragedy here, Damineh. I also lost faith after a particularly bad relationship, but my current beau saved me from that. When you find that person, there is no teasing or playing around or guessing, none of that sophomoric behaviuor, you just *know* both of you do.
For me, not sleeping around was a personal choice, but I did everything else! to me, that isn’t dishonoring myself, rather it empowered me, because I never lost control of what I was doing. But when I met my current bf, it just seemed to be the natural thing to do, because I TRUST him that much. maybe that is the issue.
However it has always intrigued me, being the biologist that I am. Why does the human species hit puberty around 11-12? while that allows sexual activity, mentally kids that age are not mature enough to raise kids. To me that is a paradox, or is it just a standard set by society?
Santi said on December 7, 2005 11:48:
Kachina: Meeeee Meeee, I have the answer! :DDD
Because there is a gap between biological conditions and social conditions, since developed culture has been acting for a rather short time (just 8000 years - 150 years modern medicine, which is nothing in evolutive scale).
As a biologist you should know that life is artificially elongated. We mostly live in an artificial medium (cities and stuff) and use artificial compounds that for example make the flu just an inconvenience (when time ago was lethal), we got rid of lethal illnesses or got prevented early in life by vaccination. We are not preyed upon because we kill our predators or make the environment around us unconfortable for them to act against us. For “God’s” sake, nowadays the main threat to a human is indeed another human, not some tiger or malaria.
Also we drink clear water, pasterized milk and cooked meat, which prevents them from having dangerous stuff in.
But it all has happened so fast that it has not made any influence on the genetic code. Remeber that not so long ago, a man of 40 was old. Do you think it’s coincidence that women stop ovulating at 45-50 or so? We’re not programmed biologically to live longer, so it was just useless to be able to have kids further than that.
If you think like that, 13 years or so it’s a pretty good age. Actually look at the rest of animals, they need way less than us, even much bigger animals that also have infancy. The point of our “egoist genes” is to duplicated themselves, and an adolescent is physically well-equiped to face natural life. Mentally maybe not so much, but that’s not our natural environment. Adolescents are mentally incomplete because cultures and society have gotten extremely complicated and there are many codes to learn and so.
Did you like the explanation? :D
Santi said on December 7, 2005 12:07:
By the way, if this was a “debate”, I would fully agree with DaminehGessle. That’s exactly what I think.
But this is not a debate, there’s no debate on this, because it’s a matter of personal freedom, and as we’ve seen is deeply related with religious beliefs (funny that the clergy supposed to be celibate, doesn’t stop imposing their opinions on other people’s sex life, when they’re not supposed to have one... sick repressed people...), so to change someone’s mind on this is as difficult as convert them into a different religion.
roxlad said on December 7, 2005 12:10:
One should have sex when he/she is ready without pressures.... that could be before or after marrige. All I say is that maybe you like or love smb but sexually it doesn’t work so then if you are married you’ve had it!
Oldag75 said on December 8, 2005 23:43:
Premarital sex is not a problem.
Premarital child-bearing IS a problem.
kachina008 said on December 9, 2005 12:03:
yup Santi that definitely makes sense :) how did you get so smart?? :D
reighin_nicolai said on December 12, 2005 02:54:
its my 1st time here. and this is the best thread!!!!
all i know is: i LOVE it when i undress my girl friend!!!
just kidding. i’m a pro on it. coz we cant just avoid it. if our body heats.. :D :D
coyboyusa said on December 13, 2005 15:59:
i endorse it, alot of marriages die because peopel don’t know how to please their partners and are not comfortable with thier own bodies
Santi said on December 5, 2005 11:13:
Is this still a “debate”? :O