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El Qaida!
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Kathrin said on July 20, 2005 20:58:
I think that Ossama the biggest Terror Monster in the world has something to do with the London Attacks!
ncurran said on July 20, 2005 23:04:
Its doubtful that it was directly orchestrated by Osama, as it is such a fragmented organistation. But yes it is extremely likely that one of the factions that associates itself with Al Queda is responsible
LittleSpooky said on July 21, 2005 04:15:
My opinon:
The attacks in London were an “inside job”. With G8 taking place, support in this “war on terror” flagging in not only the United States, but in the UK as well... what would “bolster” the public in supporting this farce? Or, what do you think would justify keeping “allied” forces in there longer?
LittleSpooky said on July 21, 2005 08:54:
Sparvoga: I really didn’t wanna go there because of all the flame wars that erupt on TDR, but I honestly believe that the London attacks were an inside job and 4 men got blamed because of the colour of their skin.
E-Mail me and I’ll send you a link. You can cuss me 7 ways from Sunday about it if you want... but I tell you what, there’s TOO much going on that tells me that what a lot of what’s been posted on that site is true.
Especially when the media in the UK can’t seem to get their story right about WHAT kind of bombs those were:
C-4, or household toxins (like ammonia and the like).
rox-kuryliw said on July 21, 2005 11:20:
its rather obvious who did it ! ! The rest now is just
conspiracy theory , I think the UK have done a wonderful job and been fast about it i hope they do step up sercuity and regulations on entery into this country though. I know they will be alot of negative spin form this message but thats a shame, its time to be positive now.
TinyBubbles said on July 21, 2005 12:45:
There is another conspiracy theory that the IRA had a finger in the pie much like it was reported that ETA was working with Al Qaida in Spain. Mmmm.
ncurran said on July 21, 2005 17:50:
Even though i am one of the most cynical people ever, i dont believe all these conspiracy theories in this case. As far as i am concerned from this case, all the evidence points to the 4 bombers that we saw on the news. Whether it is the work of Al Queda is another debate altogether. Al Queda sympathisers, definitely, but there is as of yet no real evidence to link them to Osama and his cronies
ally77 said on July 21, 2005 19:06:
I think it was just some arses that wish they where up Osama backside, and they did this in the hope of impressing him... but of course they’ll know no if they did or not...
LittleSpooky said on July 22, 2005 00:37:
I’m going to ask everyone here to do something that is going to be quite difficult:
Put aside your feelings for the moment and stop to think about this. I know that logic doesn’t seem to apply, but what I will be saying next, MIGHT make sense.
Say you belong to Terrorist Cell R. You’ve been training in your home country Zahmahamam for the fighting skills. You move to Loginshawizen and await the call to “become active”. You know that up the street from you is Terrorist Cell K and they are made up of people you trained with back home. Cell K gets the “divine call” and they go and commit an attack. It strikes fear in people in the community and country for a little while.
Then, in the news 2 weeks to THE DAY, another attack takes place in the same fashion: 3 different tube stations and one bus. This time Cell R is blamed.
But why would they have done this? Several of their fellow Cell Members are either in jail in Loginshawizen, or they’ve been deported, or killed. Instead of striking abject fear into the hearts of the people of Loginshawizen, this new attack has managed to piss people off and they’ve been “more aware and alert” of “out of place people”.
This is the case here: People WITNESSED these events and tried to body tackle the “people involved”. They’ve made everyone a little up-tight for the time being, but for the most part... everyone is pissed off to the point of almost violence. This is not what a terrorist wants... they want people to be afriad of them. They want the glory that goes with murdering the innocents and striking terror in the hearts of the locals.
I watched the “statement” by Prime Minister Blair: What a load of shit! That S.O.B. talked everything about nothing!
“All questions are better directed towards the police, yadda yadda yadda yadda......BLOW ME!!!” His speech did nothing but talk about the “good relations” between the UK and Austrailia... and “we feel bad that one of your citizens died two weeks ago..”
*edited because I became a bit too... well... Yeah*
Roxnit said on July 22, 2005 01:00:
I think that Al Qaeda is “wrong” when they kill some innocent people, but everybody knows that the U.S. has killed a lot of innocent people too!!! I´m sorry but I hate the way that the U.S. has “found” to put an “end” to terrorism. For me, it´s a little bit difficult to talk about something too complex like that in english........If it was in portuguese, I´m pretty sure that I could make more comments...
Oldag75 said on July 22, 2005 22:18:
The AIDS virus has several different strains, and mutates constantly. But all of them cause AIDS, and will continue to do so until, like polio, humankind wipes them out.
LittleSpooky said on July 23, 2005 00:37:
Newsflash Oldag: POLIO HASN’T BEEN COMPLETELY ERRADICATED!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio
Read here. And besides, not long ago, the CDC told the citizens of the US that come to find out, the polio vaccine that we were given as children... wasn’t as “effective” as they once thought. Soon as I can find out where that link is... I’ll post it here to.
Get your facts before opening your mouth. I’m tired of you making me look bad just because I’m from the same country as you.
Oldag75 said on July 23, 2005 02:20:
Everything in life is a personal choice. Nobody other than you can make you think you look bad.
LittleSpooky said on July 23, 2005 04:42:
Oldag: Your comments here continue to perpetuate the ILLUSION that Americans are dumb, ignorant, arrogant, full of shit, think they own the world and so on down the line.
Tell you like I told someone else:
Sit down and STFU!
Roxnit said on July 23, 2005 20:23:
I don´t understand!!!!!!! Why AIDS in the conversation??????????
harriej said on July 23, 2005 20:45:
Because Oldag doesn’t understand he has to stick to the subject of the thread.
ncurran said on July 23, 2005 22:47:
Oldag has a habit of trying to be clever by making metaphors that have no relevance to the argument in hand. It gets very boring after a while
zeeshan said on July 23, 2005 23:23:
I read and heard that one of the bombers is alive and was shown on the tevelvision. He’s a 16 years old kid and he said that he was so scared that he didn’t get out of his house for 3 days. What’s all that about? And also, I can not understand how can they just blame 4 people the very next day of the blasts? At least take your freakin’ time.
ncurran said on July 23, 2005 23:35:
zeeshan, do you mean the bombs from 2 weeks ago, cos the bombers are all dead? Or do you mean the attempted attacks of a couple of days ago, as far as i know the police are still looking for them, but are showing CCTV images of them on the news.
LittleSpooky said on July 24, 2005 05:22:
ncurran: Of the 7/7 attacks, one of the pictures shown on various WORLD news channels was of a 16 year old kid that had the EXTREME misfortune of having the same damn name as one of the dead men.
16, accused of being a terrorist (and he was AT HOME the WHOLE TIME), and almost having a nervous breakdown all in the span of a week. Poor kid.
LittleSpooky said on July 24, 2005 07:33:
From
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=13972&hd=0&size=1&l=x (copy / paste this into your browser to see the story)
How Black Ops Staged the London Bombings
Fintan Dunne, BreakForNews.com
22 July, 2005 12:00pmET
Staged terror events –like magic tricks– rely on misdirection to throw people off the track. The first step in uncovering how the London bombings were carried out by a Western black operations team -is to see through the key misdirections they built into the operation.
Here’s the “official” spin on what happened:
Key evidence of the movements of the four alleged bombers comes from a single CCTV image of four similar-looking individuals entering Luton Station to catch a London-bound train. Three of them had driven to Luton to meet the fourth and carry on by train to King’s Cross station in London.
The police claim to have another CCTV video of them splitting up at Kings Cross and heading in different directions to carry out the attacks. Papers identifying them were found at the scenes –where their bodies have also been recovered. Police also found bomb materials in the car they left at a pay carpark in Luton.
That’s the tale of the “suicide bombers.” The big problem with this account is that a terror group would never deliberately waste valuable human resources in suicide attacks, when suicide tactics are not needed.
In answer, mainstream media are now also pushing the line that they may have been duped –and didn’t know the bombs would explode immediately they were set. In alternative media some are also pushing the idea that they simply thought they transporting drugs.
Both explanations assume the four did actually carry the bombs onto London’s Underground trains and a bus.
Which of course, they didn’t. All this has been misdirection.
Here’s how it really went down:
The three who were driving from Leeds to Luton never completed their journey. Somewhere along the M1 motorway, a car with a flashing blue light came up behind them and both cars pulled over to the side of the road. The seeming police officers demanded identification and then insisted that the car be moved off the motorway for safety reasons and for further questioning.
Meanwhile another team was intercepting the fourth person in as he made his way from nearby Aylesbury to Luton. None of them would be seen alive in public again. They did not participate in the bombings.
***The CCTV image of them entering Luton Station is a cut and paste of prior surveilance photos taken of the four. This is the key misdirrection. ***
Intercepting the four would have been much to public once they entered Luton Station. They were taken out before that. Let’s come back to what happened to them after we unveil the other key misdirection.
*****The bombs on the Underground were not in the tube carriages. They were under the floors of the carriages. The black-ops team would need access to rail or maintainance yards in order to plant these timed devices. *****
That’s the reliable way. That’s why this was inevitably how it would be done.
Confirmation of this comes from a number of reports, including this eyewitness account of the Aldgate East tube bomb by Cambridge dancer Bruce Lait. He and dance partner Crystal Main were the only passengers in their carriage who survived without serious injury - despite being nearest to the bomb blast.
****Here’s the Cambridge Evening News report [also]:
“When I woke up and looked around I saw darkness, smoke and wreckage. It took a while to realise where I was and what was going on... ” He and Crystal were helped out of the carriage. As they made their way out, a policeman pointed out where the bomb had been.
“The policeman said ’mind that hole, that’s where the bomb was’. The metal was pushed upwards as if the bomb was underneath the train. They seem to think the bomb was left in a bag, but I don’t remember anybody being where the bomb was, or any bag,” he said.*****
Moreover, Christophe Chaboud, head of the French Anti-Terrorism Co-ordination Unit, told Le Monde newspaper that the explosives used in the bombings were of military origin:
He added that the victims’ wounds suggested that the explosives, which were ” not heavy but powerful”, had been placed on the ground, perhaps underneath seats. [Source also]
Or perhaps under the floor.
Causing injuries such as those suffered by Emily Benton, one of two Knoxville, TN sisters on vacation in London who were injured in one of the tube blasts. She had broken bones and skin missing on her feet:
“Her feet were badly injured (the hospital doesn’t think she will lose her feet), and she has a bad cut on her arm.” [Source]
With much of the carnage taking place underground, it was useful that the bus bomb could provide an above-ground spectacle -and the only sighting of a bomber in action:
***BUS blast survivor Richard Jones yesterday revealed how he came face-to-face with one of the London bombers. The Scots IT expert got off the doomed double-decker just seconds before it was torn apart in an explosion that killed 13 passengers.
“This young guy kept diving into this bag or whatever he had in front of his feet,” he told The Associated Press.
He said the bomber was around 6ft tall, in his mid-twenties, clean-shaven and smartly dressed. The man was wearing hipster-style fawn checked trousers, with exposed designer underwear, and a matching jersey-style top. ’The pants looked very expensive, they were white with a red band on top... He was standing with his back to me downstairs at the driver’s side, which is exactly where the explosion was... The noise was unbelievable. I served an apprenticeship in an explosives factory in Ayrshire so I knew what it was.’ [Source] ***
Which doesn’t sound anything like the blue-jeaned, unshaven, rather drably-dressed Hasib Hussain. But the tale of a nervous bomber served to add color to a London landscape which badly needed at least one eyewitness account of the bombers in action.
The bus -like the trains, had a concealed bomb.
Meanwhile, the alleged bombers had been whisked to a remote location to be ruthlessly murdered in a way that would be consistent with their participation in a suicide bombing. They died in a callous blast arranged with military precision.
Four more murders came easily to those who were meanwhile killing scores in London with the same ruthless precision.
Their bodies and body parts would be infiltrated into the forensic investigation. Their identity papers would be “found” at the scenes of the bombings. Their injuries would be consistent. Their names and their memory smeared forever.
It’s war. This is what it’s like. Stop it.
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LittleSpooky said on July 20, 2005 21:35:
I say you’re absolutely incorrect in that assumption.