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Fish and Salvation
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miguelsocialist said on February 26, 2005 20:48:
This a a bit funny topic.
When I saw “Salvation” clip for the first time, I didn’t know why pieces of fish appear in that clip in Marie o Per’s hands.
Today, talking with other boy (from this tdr) the question turned into my brain...
Why? Jajajaja :D
alexandre100 said on February 27, 2005 00:07:
I have one interpretation for this video (and, believe me, it will be very nice if it’s completely wrong).
When Per pass by the gate for the first time on the video, the lyrics says: “you passed by the gate, captured my fate, salvation...” It looks like Marie was saved by Per, capturing her fate as if she was nothing before she started to sing with him.
This could explain the pumpkin scene (that scene where Per is holding a pumpkin and Marie is holding a slice of it): just imagine “success” being symbolized by the pumpkin; Per gives Marie a “slice” of his success, as if Per has been her “success source”.
The fish scene could have some interpretation like this...
Staffany said on February 27, 2005 00:11:
I don’t think she was nothing before she started to sing with him. “Het vind” and “Den sjunde vågen” were very successful in Sweden...
alexandre100 said on February 27, 2005 00:17:
Yes, I don’t think she was nothing before singing with Per. But I don’t know if the Salvation director (Anton Corbjin?) thinks the same...
Staffany said on February 27, 2005 00:19:
I think he tried to do something “different”, but it ended in something too bizarre for my taste.
Roxeanne said on February 27, 2005 02:15:
Hopefully aftrwards they were saved from the fish-smell.
@ alexandre: I too wouldn’t say that Marie was nothing before. But still Ilike your interpretation VERY much and I think it’s a good start.
gessle-addict said on February 27, 2005 04:22:
Per once said that fish simbolize happiness.
I´ve never understood his words.
alexandre100 said on February 27, 2005 12:46:
I wonder how embarrassing was the shoot of “Salvation” for Per and Marie. If there was a makin of for this video, we could see some people laughing at them in the backstage...
onlywhenidream said on February 27, 2005 13:32:
i don’t think that it is anything symbolic, it’s a pop video. Maybe instead of capturing fate, they were capturing fish??
Rox_Nox2003 said on February 28, 2005 02:57:
I don’t care. I hate that video ... urghhhh fishes and pumpkins really??? jesus
voodoo said on March 1, 2005 14:18:
i don’t get the fish and pumpkin.
but i really like the video, they make the colour look like a documentary, look great.
the video of WICF and Anyone are also great, but Star was not, i hate that video.
purplemedusa said on March 1, 2005 14:24:
Some ppl... why not sit & watch this clip closely... try figure out the symbolism... and for heaven’s sake - don’t always expect things on a silver plate! Corbjin rocks!!
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voodoo said on March 1, 2005 15:17:
i really hope some ppl would explain it.
i came from China, and i don’t know much about Christianism or North-Europe myth or other culture symbolic.
to some ppl, it’s a easy way to find out, but to me, i have no idea of any way there.
alexandre100 said on March 1, 2005 21:33:
Although I made that interpretation for this video, I still like it very much! It doesn’t look like a pop video: the way it was filmed (in Super 8, I think) makes it look like a documentary (as @voodoo has wrote), and there’s all that sort of symbolism in it...
Rox_Nox2003 said on March 2, 2005 21:05:
Oh jesus I can’t stand that video ... terrible idea to use that quality image it just didn’t do any good and caused no impact in it ... and that fish and the pumpkin seriously ... what was that some sort of Eurythmics sort of ...???
NickNL74 said on March 12, 2005 15:27:
The video is so christian, the christian sign is a fish... mystery solved
gessle-addict said on March 13, 2005 16:25:
C’mon boys!, there´s no meaning behind this!. It’s what we call Pop Art.
MrBurns said on March 14, 2005 10:02:
OK, here’s my guess. The fish Per is holding is a predator and it would eat those fish marie is holding if they were together in one aquarium : ). So the whole video is about a strange relationship between a man and a woman, maybe a couple? The woman is clearly dependant, even addicted to the man and he misuses it in a way- therefore Per is holding the whole pumpkin and Marie just one piece of it. Although the woman gave him everything, the man is still keeping his distance...
NickNL74 said on March 15, 2005 00:29:
The fish was a subtle hint from Per to Marie to say she had a bad breath that day :o)
Emil__BG said on February 26, 2005 21:52:
why–>salvation!!
it’s obvious even if you aren’t very religious ;-)