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Just heard some of Alanis' early stuff!
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RoxHard said on November 17, 2004 04:14:
TERRIBLE!!
I heard 2 songs that she made pre-jagged little pill...
I always knew it was bad, but GOD! She sounds like my little sister!!!
purplemedusa said on November 17, 2004 17:50:
I actually got a copy of her debut album... pretty pop-princessish; different from what she’s been doing the last couple of 10 years or so... but I guess we all must grow up at some stage!?!
coyboyusa said on November 18, 2004 15:29:
alanis has had one too many prozac for my taste :) that or coffee enemas :)
RoxHard said on November 20, 2004 04:40:
Coyboy... please complete the following sentence:
And the point of you typing that is... (?)
Anarem said on November 20, 2004 15:19:
To be honest, I was surprised that Alanis had turned all “angry” with Jagged Little Pill. We had remembered her as the peppy girl with the cute dimples and big hair. But to say we up here in Canada weren’t “impressed” with the change is a bit off. Just taken aback, is all, and more than a little proud to see one of our own make it big internationally, by making the music she wanted to make, as opposed to being just another teen pop queen...
roxtexanet said on December 4, 2004 01:49:
...not to mention that we bought *truckloads* of copies of “Jagged Little Pill” up here...
But anyway, I remember Alanis when she was a teenager... she was actually quite successful in Canada, had about 5 top 10 hits from those albums! My friends and I loved her back then, it was the music of the time (“Always too hot, never too cold, take your best shot, too hot to hold...”)... and I love her music now, too... I think it’s fair to say that what we like and what we do at 15 and 30 are not necessarily compatible (hmmm... except that I liked Roxette at 15 and expect that I will still like them at 30 (-: ). That said, I don’t think Britney is going to suddenly morph into Tracey Chapman...
purplemedusa said on December 4, 2004 09:50:
LOL... tell me is “Now is the time” still easily available in CAnada? GOt the first release but not got around to the second...
Anarem said on December 4, 2004 15:01:
@roxtexanet:
If you look hard enough on the ’Net, there is a live version of “Too Hot” which Alanis did not too long ago, a very low-key, slow-tempo, almost angry version. You could hear the Canucks go wild in the audience! She was acknowledging her teen-pop roots. And her re-working of one of her bubblegum songs into something angsty was nothing short of brilliant. :-)
RoxHard said on December 4, 2004 15:48:
Even though no one here has said anything about it here, but I’d like to just mouth off for a while... Hmm, how unusual ;-)
Anyway...
I hate it when people find it hard to accept that Alanis has infact changed from this sweet little girl to this angry bitch. Some people have no idea just how repressed she was back then. She was on a very controlling pop-orientated label, and liked it in the beginning, but she soon found that it was not all it was hyped-up to be. Has anyone ever thought about why it took her so long to release Jagged Little Pill? By the end of that whole “pop” experience, she felt so humiliated that she felt like hiding for about half a decade! And then when you take into account that her manager was a total arsewipe, who totally confused her. You do know that this old manager is the guy she wrote songs like You Oughta Know about, right? He was a total perv, who made Alanis think she HAD to perform sexual acts on him. She was around 15 at the time, and he was about 40! He made her think that her whole career depended on giving him a B-J!
Most of this experience actually has been uncharted by Alanis in her songs. But, if you hunt some of the “demos” down - you’d hear her talk about the experience in more detail than on songs like You Oughta Know. Check out the “demo” of “Unsent” if you can. There are whole verses on that demo of the song that didn’t make the album version.
Unsent (unused lyrics):
Dear Terrance,
You were an adventure
Besides being a few decades older than I was
You used to write the most poetic love letters
And I still have them
I heard that you were in-and-out of several marriages
And you liked the yound and niavé
So you can have the power and the drama to feel verile
I wonder what your wife thought of all of this
When you bury deep enough, you can find that Alanis has had quite a surreal life, and I think it’s no wonder that she soon became this angry bitch.
carbon_boy said on November 17, 2004 10:16:
Wasn’t she still in her mid-teens when she recorded that cd? I remember there was a big hoo-haa about the JLPill album, cos it was so angry and loud, compared to the previous stuff. The Canadians got to know her as this sweet little girl and then suddenly she became this hardcore screaming bitch....and ofcourse, they weren’t impressed at all....
I love her :oD