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God? A Thing of the Past?
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HoundDog said on October 11, 2004 18:50:
What is the reality of God or this so called God? Who is He, and Where did he come from? To add on to this Question, who are we, and were did we come from?
LittleSpooky said on October 12, 2004 03:25:
Oooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhh... this is one of THOSE, innit?
Roxer93 said on October 12, 2004 07:36:
Who is HE and where did HE come from? Apparently that’s something a human brain is not capable of comprehending.
coyboyusa said on October 12, 2004 16:35:
man in his infancy created myths and legends to comfort his ignorance, as he evolves the myth of a god dissolves and he finally takes resposibility for his role in the future
on_a_mission said on October 12, 2004 22:46:
thats a big set of questions, one I won’t even attempt to answer. Personally, Im an athiest.
coyboyusa said on October 13, 2004 14:13:
lool ferdan that was so well put i am adding it to my aol profile :)
ncurran said on October 13, 2004 15:57:
God? a thing of the past? For many people yes, for others no....why cant we just respect one anothers beliefs?
RickLovesLadd said on October 13, 2004 18:13:
All I know is we’re here and alive. Life is a mystery.
Lars-Erik_Olson (moderator) said on October 13, 2004 22:42:
We can Neil. I don’t see any disrespect for other’s beliefs here. Let’s keep it that way.
nate said on October 25, 2004 04:02:
To some He’s a myth. To some He does not exist. To others, He’s a far off distant god from another universe. Still others believe He’s finite and powerless. WE WILL NEVER ALL AGREE! To those of us who seek Him whole-heartedly, we know Him as the giver of life and all things which are good. We know that He is alive and active in our world today. We know Him on a personal level and we see Him at work in our lives on a daily basis as we commit ourselves to His perfect will. Our relationship with Him is like that of a father and son, and we rest in the knowledge that He is always near. I have lived the first two thirds of my life as an atheist; however, I must say nothing brings me greater joy than serving my God and resting in His promise of everlasting life.
Majdy said on October 25, 2004 08:48:
Hey, Nate. what a nice post!
I was desperately finding proof that God exist for years, then I just quit it...
but then I have must been through an personal experience which make me believe that God exist. and I feel much happier now...
Oldag75 said on October 25, 2004 16:45:
God blew him/herself up in the Big Bang, shattering into countless slivers of force we call “life,” and has been busy since then taking charge of organic matter and causing that matter to do things. Every living entity, from virus to human being, is possessed by a shard of God, or life. As there are many forces in the universe – gravity, magnetism etc – life is the creative force (which, being a piece of God, is eminently logical). Given nature’s demonstrated impartiality throughout the cosmic theater, it is logical to conclude that each life, after abandoning its organic manifestation (that is, dying), ends up in the same place in the same condition... if anywhere at all. The fact that forces cannot be destroyed implies that life continues after death. The only real question is whether you retain your identity or not, after you shuffle off the mortal coil.
nate said on October 26, 2004 03:08:
Thank you Majdy, I’m so pleased to see your reply. My conclusion over the existence of God came gradually through personal experience; however, was reinforced with overwhelming historical evidence, as well as my discovery over many scientific contradictions contained within so many widely accepted, and popular theories today.
We could talk more about this over e-mail if you’d like - or should you allow me the honour to e-mail you. Take care.
Majdy said on October 26, 2004 07:38:
hey, Nate. email me!!! :)
or, if I got chance to use computer tonite, I will do that ;)
Sascha said on October 26, 2004 09:23:
Does God Exist? Some Scientists Answer:
PHYSICS professor Ulrich J. Becker, of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, stated when commenting on the existence of God: “How can I exist without a creator? I am not aware of any compelling answer ever given.”
Did this contradict his scientific views? The professor’s thought-provoking answer was, “If you discovered how one wheel in the ’clock’ turns—you may speculate how the rest move, but you are not entitled to call this scientific and better leave alone the question of who wound up the spring.”
Contrary to the opinion of some, many respected men of science do not rule out the idea of there being a God—a Great Mastermind behind the creation of the universe and man.
Consider two more examples on this point. When mathematics professor John E. Fornaess, of Princeton University, was asked for his thoughts on the existence of God, he replied: “I believe that there is a God and that God brings structure to the universe on all levels from elementary particles to living beings to superclusters of galaxies.”
Physics professor Henry Margenau, of Yale University, said that he was convinced that the laws of nature were created by God, adding: “God created the universe out of nothing in an act which also brought time into existence.” He then noted that in the book The Mystery of Life’s Origin, three scientists explain that a Creator is a plausible explanation for life’s origin. Supporting this view, astronomer Fred Hoyle has stated that believing the first cell originated by chance is like believing that a tornado ripping through a junkyard full of Boeing 747 airplane parts dismembered and in disarray could produce a 747.
To these answers can be added the words of the Bible writer Paul: “[God’s] invisible qualities are clearly seen from the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by the things made, even his eternal power and Godship.”—Romans 1:20.
Source: http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/1999/2/8/article_02.htm
Ferdan said on October 26, 2004 09:49:
Sascha, your point being???
If I wanted a bit of credibility I wouldn´t quote from a Jeovah witness’ site hahaha
Science can´t have a scientific opinion on something like a god, at least not yet... so every opinion is personal and equal, wheter coming from a scientist or coming from a theologist or coming from a singer or a fireman or a taxi driver.
Sascha said on October 26, 2004 13:33:
Ferdan, I’m not going for credibility in your eyes. You seem to have some prejudices in this matter. ;-) The point is when you study nature, physics etc. every day you get some insight that this all has been carefully planned and wasn’t made by accident.
mardain said on October 26, 2004 14:20:
avbius many people have asked themselves about God, the only thing that i can assure to them is that if god created the man, the man create god, at the moment is the unique thing thet i can say with certainly, i would like to follow this one conversation after to have studied a little more...is a great subjet... god, the good, the badly, the sins, the haven, the hell...to aks to us about these things is what it makes us be human beings.
Ferdan said on October 26, 2004 16:18:
“The point is when you study nature, physics etc. every day you get some insight that this all has been carefully planned and wasn’t made by accident.”
And where did you get that idea, from that jeovah’s site??
That´s a fallacy ´cos the great number of atheist scientists would disagree with you. So again, you are being pointless. There are individuals who´ll agree with you by personal experience, there are individuals who won´t agree with you also by personal experience.
And I personally briefly studied many branches of science, and none even suggested me the need of a deity.
And just to be picky, the scientific journal “Nature” made a survey about this subject.... 72% of scientist were atheists...
most of the believers were found among the mathematicians, and the biggest amount of atheist were in those fields related to life sciences.
Oldag75 said on October 26, 2004 16:43:
God to a great degree is a conceptual tool for people to employ as a means of exercising power over the behavior of other people, and getting money from them.
on_a_mission said on October 27, 2004 18:03:
@ Oldag75, thats a good point. He/she/it is also a tool of institutionalised persecution. Although such pesecution emanates from man’s institutions, not a ’God’
nate said on October 31, 2004 02:17:
I agree with both of you Oldag75 & on_a_mission that God’s name has been and still is used today by some to exploit others for their own personal gain. I’ve also seen religion used as a means to justify discrimination and hatred towards others; or, to promote a certain particular political agenda. Such acts of selfishness are reprehensible and give religion a negative image.
That said, there are many sincere people of faith (some in high places of authority) who are peaceful, loving indivduals with pure motives who genuinely care for the well-being of others that practice “organized religion”.
purplemedusa said on October 11, 2004 20:24:
She, she she... who is she? Ha! Grrrrr!