vaxjoe said on May 5, 2004 08:28:

Im going to London for the Wembley concert on the 26th aug.
It cost me a small fortune but what the hell.. :D

vaxjoe said on May 5, 2004 08:35:

I will! You know what, i still cant believe it! I booked the concert and plane tickets but it seems so unreal!

Im getting obsessed and excited! There are so many rumours about the track list, the latest one is that she will start with The Beast Within that will lead to Vogue..i need to know the list so i can revise the lyrics lol

vaxjoe said on May 5, 2004 08:41:

No, its the Justify My Love track special edition where she reads parts from Apocalypse...I dont remember in which single it was included!

vaxjoe said on May 5, 2004 08:47:

Tell me about it...Lately im getting this fascination with her singles (older ones, from Like A Prayer and Erotica mostly) and i need to go to Athens to get them..

Im looking now for the latest rumoured tracklist, i’ll post it as soon as i find out...

I read that the latest change is that Burning Up (yay!) was replaced by Borderline (yawn) and that Bedtime Story made the list (yay again)

vaxjoe said on May 5, 2004 09:01:

I think lots of boys will be pissing their pants as shes doing like a Greatest Hits ever tour...this is what i found, im not sure its accurate though..
The Beast Within
Vogue
Bedtime Story/Skin
Nobody Knows Me
Die Another Day
American Life
Live To Tell
I’m So Stupid
Hollywood/Material Girl
Lucky Star
Easy Ride
Burning Up
Love Profusion
Justify My Love
Deeper And Deeper
Bad Girl
Like A Virgin
Nothing Really Matters
Nothing Fails/X-Static Process
Crazy For You
Don’t Tell Me
Ray Of Light
Like A Prayer

vaxjoe said on May 5, 2004 09:11:

I hope this will be better than DWT...i have the dvd and im not impressed..apart from the Impresive Instant/Sky Fits Heaven/Ray Of Light/Music

Human Nature was a good moment...its like it all should have been, good old times, guilty and naughty :P

animalkingdom said on May 5, 2004 16:49:

@ Nikos

Hey, how come you’re back here?
Oh and I have not heard from u for a long while, have I? *rolleyes*

Anyway, I just would love to see Madonna: there’s an auction net page here in Finland has two tickets for Earls Court near the stage. The only problem is that the price starts from 500€...

Money is the great issue as I have thought to travel abroad during the summer (if I can act like a good accountant, really).

animalkingdom said on May 5, 2004 19:46:

I thought she was going to kick off with Bedtime Story... But it’s great she’s got more of American Life in there. :)

vaxjoe said on May 6, 2004 13:19:

www.drownedmadonna.com

EXCLUSIVE: Tour big spoiler.

“Bad Girl” is going to be a totally different song from the original. Patrick Leonard did a totally new re-arragment of it. Think “Rain” from the “Girlie Show,” very drummy with tons of piano.

There is a big love theme in the song hence “Nothing Really Matters” and “Crazy For You.” They’re trying different versions of “Nothing Really Matters”: the Peter Rauhofer club 69 and a new chill-out drummy version also arranged by Patrick Leonard.

We can reveal that “X-static Process” has always been in the setlist...2 versions are being trying together, starting with the acoustic version into the Jacques LuCont’s edit of the track. They are still trying to see if they are going to use both or just one.

Madonna is going to rap in “American Life,” so far is indeed in the setlist. She is really strong about putting the track, but Jamie King is not so sure.

“Bedtime Story” is going to be the theme song of the tour! The Orbital mix is not going to be used, Madonna is not feeling it. Junior’s cut might be it. Also Stuart Price is doing some remix of the song... to try it.

“Like A Prayer” has way more of a dark beat. They are rehearsing a more heavy version, which is more dancing too.

Dancing is hard very athletic! Madonna is going full of dancing this time. Very “Blond Ambition”... hence all the rehearsals.

vaxjoe said on May 8, 2004 04:35:

This is a rumoured setlist found at Drowned Madonna.
Do not take it as fact, simply as a possibility.

the 24 songs being performed:
-Burning Up
-Holiday
-Dress You Up
-Into The Groove
-Papa Don’t Preach
-Like A Prayer
-Express Yourself
-Vogue
-Hanky Panky (I HOPE NOT!!!)
-The Beast Within
-Deeper And Deeper
-Bedtime Story
-Frozen
-Music
-Don’t Tell Me
-Die Another Day
-American Life
-Hollywood
-Nothing Fails
-Nobody Knows Me
-Mother And Father
-Crazy For You OR Love Profusion - they’re gonna do Crazy for you on some shows and Love profusion on the others (I WANT LP!!!)
-Imagine (John Lennon Cover)
-A NEW SONG

Bad Girl may be used as a intro/otro

These are not in order

Loud-Talker said on May 21, 2004 18:55:

“-Burning Up
-Holiday
-Dress You Up
-Into The Groove
-Papa Don’t Preach
-Like A Prayer
-Express Yourself
-Vogue
-Hanky Panky (I HOPE NOT!!!)
-The Beast Within
-Deeper And Deeper”

What the hell? Surely she should’ve picked some better tracks! Is there anybody who likes Dress You Up? The Beast Within - what a waste!

She’s trying to get a gig at Slane Castle (in Ireland). But, I doubt she’ll get it. Firstly, she wants it to be on a Sunday - and the locals at Slane Castle object to that. Back in 1979 (when Bob Dylan was performing here), he had a gig on a Sunday. But, by the saturday afternoon, the whole town was smashed! The (at the time) Lord Mayor of Slane signed an agreement with the local people that a gig will never be held at the venue on a Sunady EVER AGAIN!

It’s just like Madonna to think she can just swan into any country and have every law changed to suit her! She has no consideration for anyone elses EXISTANCE!

And, in all fairness, I think she’d be better off cancelling the gig altogether. Slane Castle is a 65,000 capacity venue - there is no way she would sell it out! Seeing as her albums sell a maximum of 30,000 copies in Ireland (The American Life album only reached #28, and I think Love Profusion was the only single to break the Top 40 - at #39 or something!)

She’s wasting her time here. She should just bugger off!

Plus, who the hell does she think she is charging £150 (US-$270) FOR A SINGLE TICKET! Even if The Beatles reformed (which is very, very, very unlikely) they wouldn’t dare charge that amount for tickets! But... like fools, her fans accept it! I don’t get those people - and she dared moan about MP3 sharing! She makes enough god damned money!!!

StillFar said on May 21, 2004 20:35:

lol as if Madonna is responsible for the drinking problem of the irish ;)

btw, look at her tourdates, you’ll see that pretty much everything is sold. Yes, to the prices she asked for. I paid 90 CDN (55 Euro) for the tickets and the seats aren’t thaaat bad, I paid the same to see Roxette and let’s face it, there’s a different market value here. Most shows were sold within a couple of minutes, tell me one artist who’s able to do that...maybe her recent work sucks, but she’s still one artist people want to see....I certainly do!

StillFar said on May 21, 2004 20:53:

wow...home city!! that’s big!

StillFar said on May 22, 2004 13:21:

I understand what you mean, but I guess that just comes with people ordering tickets via internet. For every concert which is in high demand you will find tickets on Ebay. Check for Annie Lennox & Sting tickets and ebay and you’ll see the asking price is just as high as the one for Madonna.

Anyway, I understand what you mean, I guess. But maybe for some people it’s ok to spend $300 on Madonna just as it is for you to travel to Sweden and see Per where you will spend at least the same amount...

Loud-Talker said on May 22, 2004 21:41:

StillFar: “lol as if Madonna is responsible for the drinking problem of the irish”

Are you moronic and stupid, or are you just blind to the fact that it was the people who came from other areas and countries that trashed Slane Town???!!

For Goodness sake, use your brain!

Why on earth would people who live in Slane start smashing in some windows and risk getting caught?

And, by the way, there are only 4 pubs in Slane Town! It wasn’t drink! It was the vandels who came from Northern Ireland and the UK who started the riots - many witnesses heard the majority of the vandels had English/Northern Irish accents!!!

And - how come I can stereotype all americans as war-mongeling, gun-totting idiots and get flamed for it! But, you can make all these stereotypes about Irish people... AND YOU DON’T GET YOUR ACCOUNTS DELETED!

There is blatant favouritism in this place, and I’m getting quite sick of it! “So why don’t you just quit” - is what you’ll all probably say. But, quite frankly, I simply don’t want to quit because 1) I still love Roxette and 2) I don’t like the thought of you all slagging off the Irish and not having
someone here to defend them!!!

And, by the way - at least us Irish can handle our drink! There are probably abou 5,000-drink related assaults in Ireland throughout THE WHOLE YEAR. There is about the same number of drink-related assaults in an English city such as Birmingham over the Christmas period alone! (and that’s not just me speculating - I seen it on one of those BBC documentaries.

And, all your defenses about Madonna’s high ticket prices is useless! SERIOUS touts have a LOT of spare money! They will simply buy these tickets priced at £150, and then sell them on eBay for around £450!!! And so, instead of paying £150 for a ticket on eBay which was originally priced £45, you will now be paying £450 for a ticket which was blatantly over-priced in the first place!

Madonna is a con-artist who blatantly rips off her fans with her consistantly crap quality albums. Ray Of Light was her only strong album - even Music had many stinkers (Runaway Lover; Amazing; Paradise (not for me); Nobdy’s Perfect).

And American Life blatantly proved that ’the gay fanbase’ was shoved firmly off its own white horse! Up until Music, the gay fanbase was screaming that they were by far the most loyal fanbase in the world. But... American Life recieves a few bad reviews, and it sells a fifth of what her last album did. Not exactly loyal then, are you??

“As if Madonna is responsible for the drinking problem of the irish”

StillFar was stereotyping; judging; being ignorant and simply being pigheaded!!! That was the whole basis for this rant, and you didn’t like it very much, did you? I’d think about things before you type, just so I could spare you from any foolish notion that I’d let stupidity, directed at the Irish, like this slip without any flames being thrown!!!

Now, if you excuse me... I’m off to The Cardigans forum. A place that I can be free from any UNJUST stereotypical hatred!

Loud-Talker said on May 23, 2004 03:25:

Yeah, it was offensive! According to my new religion, I am now no longer allowed to see or speak the word ’joke’, except on Friday.

That comment was stupid, wasn’t it? But it isn’t nearly as stupid as a woman who refuses to even begin to negotiate any other dates for a tour. She is free for the previous 2 weeks before her supposed Irish date, but still refuses any dates apart from the Sunday she demands!

animalkingdom said on May 25, 2004 12:17:

OK, if anyone’s still interested here’s the setlist from the opening show in LA last night:

1. The Beast Within
2. Vogue
3. Nobody Knows Me
4. Frozen (The first song NOT lip-synced - I can’t believe she’d lip-sync!)
5. American Life
6. Express Yourself
7. Burning Up
8. Material Girl
(Hollywood)
9. Hanky Panky
10. Deeper And Deeper
11. Die Another Day
12. Lament
(Bedtime Story)
13. Nothing Fails
14. Don’t Tell Me
15. Like A Prayer
16. Mother And Father
17. Imagine
18. Into The Groove
19. Papa Don’t Preach
20. Crazy for You
21. Music
22. Holiday

Apparently it was not a very theatrical show, the songs were the ones that impressed the audience this time...

ally77 said on May 25, 2004 17:44:

She’s too old...

ally77 said on May 25, 2004 19:25:

Age ain’t an issue.. with Madonna though she looks old.. and wrinkly.. too much time in the sun....

ally77 said on May 26, 2004 14:48:

Just heard on the latest news today that she cancelled the second concert in LA, she calls it Stomach Flu... I call it “I am far too old for this, I can’t do it, let’s fake being ill”

Talk about giving up... bet those thousands that have bought tickets are a little miffed!

Said she was pass it, this proves it.... :)

animalkingdom said on May 26, 2004 16:57:

What I have now heard of her performances I am still SO longing to hear see her live!

And I am pretty sure she’ll alter the setlist: on the last tour she sometimes would exchange Gone to You’ll See although Drowned World Tour was very, let me say, down to the book!

Anyway, as she’s rehearsed Bad Girl, Bedtime Story and others that are not on the setlist for the time being, I don’t think she’d skip them for good!

purplemedusa said on May 26, 2004 17:26:

Nah Judith... he’s starting to defrost slowly! give it time & a couple of smokes!

Jud (moderator) said on May 26, 2004 20:24:

read the first message on the page here (or 2nd) ... I’d say “stupid and moronic” aren’t the nicest of the words...

Jud (moderator) said on May 26, 2004 20:38:

no problem :P

Anyway, going back to the topic: the other tour (2001) wasn’t that cheap either.. In any case, the concerts here in Austria are hell of expensive, this summer they have Sting, The corrs and others at the Schönbrunn and tix are 60€ .. Anastacia in Autumn for 51Euro standing (for some reason the seating tix are a bit cheaper :S) and so on and so on..

Loud-Talker said on May 27, 2004 18:56:

It was StillFar.

And here’s my quote: ’Are you moronic and stupid, or are you just blind to the fact that it was the people who came from other areas and countries that trashed Slane Town???!!’

If you’d even bothered to read StillFar’s “Madonna is not responsible for the drinking problem of the Irish” post, you’d realise that I was pointing him out to be the latter option (the “blind” option) - so, techniqually, I never called anyone “stupid and moronic”.

This really just shows the level of unfairness and bias against people here! Read my first reply in the ’Give me a reason’ topic in the ’TDR Discussion’ forum for more.

Jud (moderator) said on May 27, 2004 19:02:

*jumps of happiness*

I’m in the black-list of one more person!!! ;)

Jud (moderator) said on May 27, 2004 19:10:

wait I ask my gf :P

Olympus said on May 27, 2004 20:45:

And you all call Loud-Talker sick!

And I think Madonna is ripping off her fans!

vaxjoe said on May 28, 2004 08:54:

So is anyone going at any show?
I’ll be at Wembley 26aug

ally77 said on May 29, 2004 11:15:

Saw a ticket on ebay going for £400 last night, damn ticket touts..

RoxHard said on August 9, 2004 18:14:

Oh... Sky News Ireland reported a while ago that she got a licence to perform on the day she wanted (was it a Friday?). Anyway... all she needs to do now is worry about whether she will fill it out. There are 80,000 tickets for the show, and she’s barely sold out half. It serves her right for demanding people pay 100 euro for a

arnie said on August 20, 2004 16:04:

I was watching E! Entertaiment last night and they showed some parts of the show. I was amazed by Madonna... She can’t dance anymore! They played Vogue but Madonna couldn’t make a good dance step, and even worse, she sang out ot tune!. I think she’s getting old to do this kind of shows. I used to be a huge Madonna fan and I was used to see a brilliant show but who knows ...

purplemedusa said on August 20, 2004 16:45:

Funny u should mention that... I also dreamt last night that I won tickets to see her live. No per, though :(

purplemedusa said on August 22, 2004 05:40:

Well, its Ester now, isn’t it?

purplemedusa said on August 28, 2004 07:33:

Vaxjoe... If u reading this let us know how Thursday evening went!!