Jud (moderator) said on April 2, 2003 09:25:

HUH

zeeshan said on April 2, 2003 09:59:

Who the hell cares? The biggest award for anyone is people respecting him. He said the truth and what he felt and therefore he has my award, which, I guess, is good enough!

Ferdan said on April 2, 2003 15:29:

Is it true?
well, an Oscar is a symbol...
an oscar taken away ’cos expresing an opinion....... is also a symbol.... but not a very good one.

Stormkeeper said on April 2, 2003 18:52:

M.Moore who?

Santi said on April 2, 2003 19:17:

He said:

“I’ve invited my fellow documentary nominees on stage with us here in solidarity with me, because we like non-fiction and we live in fictitious times. We live in the time where we have fictitious election results that elect a fictitious president. We live in a time where we have a man who’s sending us to war for fictitious reasons, whether it’s the fiction of duct tape or the fiction of orange alerts. ... We have a man sending us to war for fictitious reasons. We are against this war, Mr. Bush. Shame on you, Mr. Bush, shame on you.”

Jud (moderator) said on April 2, 2003 21:07:

this reminds how people in Texas burned Dixie Chicks´s cd´s because one of them recently said in London she feels shame for Bush or smth like that.

>> and these who burned the CDs I guess are the same ppl who put somebody in jail for burning a US flag?

coyboyusa said on April 3, 2003 17:30:

thank god

this is a man that rolls his fat ass around int he pot of capitalsim and then gets up on stage to blabber his political views at an oscars ceremony...he has no respect whats so ever

the oscars is not a political forum

StillFar said on April 3, 2003 17:51:

as you can read on MichaelMoore.com, he presently works on a documentary which will describe the relationship between the Bush/Hussein families, so even if he gives back the Oscar, it’s not the last time he will educate us about a ’fictitious’ leader...

Emil__BG said on April 4, 2003 06:34:

..”an Oscar taken away ’cos expresing an opinion”....
the Oscar award isn’t a symbol anymore..

sweet...-i guees that was a secret :-)

Jud (moderator) said on April 4, 2003 07:22:

burning those cds is respectless, and that’s enough for me.

Anyway, as with Madonna’s video (I still think
there was some pushing from “somewhere”), this will just make him better :D You see I had never heard about him - as many ppl over here? - and now be sure he will find a market for his next documentary (if he doesn’t “disappear” before that is).

And I think that such cultural events ARE the places where to speak your thoughts. I am proud of our Spanish actors :) At least in Spain they can still speak!!

coyboyusa said on April 4, 2003 22:48:

oh and nothing is wrong with protesting...but i think its kinda funny how u have these peopel who are protesting saomething they know nothign about...have the protesters out there are yuppie kids that are out there aligning bush with hitler are people whose only exposure to anthign about the hoolcaust was schindlerds list ,....they re also the same peopl who have never been to the site of the vietnam wall or the berloin wall. These ar epeopel who wallo in all the pleasures capitalism bathes them in and then they whine .....these are the same pepel that say bush is killing peopel for oil and they drive gass guzzling suv’s

its time for the hippocracy to end treally it is

harriej said on April 5, 2003 08:28:

This is really unbelievable!!

Excluding someone for telling his opinion.
Where is the freedom of speech?
At the Oscars they should just look at his qualities as a movie-maker and not at his political point of view.
Besides that, I do agree with Michael Moore’s opinion.

Santi said on April 5, 2003 08:41:

He’s too patriot, and you know, patriot is the contrary of democrat... he can’t accept the opinion of the rest of the people if they ever said something against his country.

By the way, to hear “bad things” about USA you don’t really have to listen to Europeans... just watch The Simpsons in Fox television...

LittleSpooky said on April 5, 2003 10:01:

Power: Did you see the interview they did with Susan Sarandon before the Oscars:

“We protested Vietnam at the Oscars primarily because that was an age where NO information was being given to the people. No one KNEW what was happening, as it was kept under wraps. In today’s time, whether the information is accurate or not, it is there. I am not protesting at this year’s Oscars for the simple fact that it is not the place to do so...”

The quotes aren’t accurate since I don’t have a copy of it, but this is the genral idea. Susan Sarandon is one of the TOP people against this war. For her to say something along those lines... I’d re-think your statement there. She had the right idea: Protest, just don’t make an ass of yourself. Michael Moore did just that.

Oh Judith: Notice how the Dixie Chicks WERE OUT OF THE BLASTED COUNTRY before saying anything. And what about the song called “Soldier” (I think that’s the title). Assanine is what they are. They don’t DARE speak out here in the States. It has to be done from London.

coyboyusa said on April 5, 2003 15:43:

i have my opinion i have never ever really been a popularist in therms of public consesnsus. I support the war I support protresters I don’t support hypocrites which alot of those protesters are. I guarantee that if the suplly of oil to the usa was turned off tomorrow half those peopel out their on the opicket lines would go insane...we live in an oil dependent world its a simple fact..whether this incursion is about control of oil or not...noone reserves the right to disrespect the very young men and women risking their lives in iraq. Michale moore is as much a politician as george bush is...look at the peopel he keeps as hsi company..many of them are liberal politicians. It’s all political. and btw I am not an extremist patriot either :) comntrary to public opinion here

Jud (moderator) said on April 5, 2003 16:01:

I think nobody missrespected the soldiers over there...the poor kids will have enough of this in their minds during their whole lives, if they survive.. :(
So now that the war IS a fact, I guess we just can expect for it to end asap and for the least victims and suffering as possible (on BOTH sides)..and that the war IS for something...

Jud (moderator) said on April 5, 2003 20:04:

:S Weirdo.. I mean.. I’m sure they knew that their words would reach America in 2 seconds..

powerpoplarry said on April 6, 2003 05:51:

Actually Coyboy, protesters are not hypocrites. It’s just Bush is wrong and a complete liar and a moron for starting this war in the first place. Guaranteed, if a Democrat was in office, there wouldn’t BE a war. It’s all about money, control of oil, big business and pushing Republican-ism onto innocent Iraq, who, by the time this war ends, will be corrupted by Bush. From one corrupt leader to another, pathetic.

Oh, and I still agree with Michael Moore speaking out, it was actually expected because he’s been known to be very outspoken, and all of his documentary films have been considered somewhat controversial.

Coyboy, it seems you’re a fighter, but your views are definitely misguided, believeing the propaganda. Smart but misguided.

zeeshan said on April 7, 2003 18:45:

what? are they talking abt the “W” word? Judith shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!! ;)

oh I like this coyboy guy.. I really do.. he always pops up from here or there and shares his intellectual opinions. Keep on amusing errrrrr..... informing us from your precious ideas and views.

Love,
Z

powerpoplarry said on April 8, 2003 04:13:

As for coy’s comment regarding Jews, is he anti-Semitic?? I’m Jewish and I was offended by his snide remark about Michael Moore. Not sure if the guy is Jewish or not, that was a bad remark to slip out. I don’t rag on him for being GAY, do I?? No, of course not!! I support gay people and gay rights, but he had no right to say something anti-semitic like that. The guy should be banned from the boards if he doesn’t apologize...

Well, I read that quote in context and still, coy COULD be anti-Semitic, based on his sentence. He’s just always been outspoken, a radical liberal, and he’s always been like this in his other films. Not sure if MM has othert ties to any other party or group of people, but he puts himself in the midst of controversy. Michael Moore is a very brave man, and he should be commended for his work, simple as that.

Again, Coy must apologize for his anti-Semitic slip, otherwise be banned...

zeeshan said on April 8, 2003 09:22:

Judth: “OUR’S MISTAKE”? which mistake did we make lately? :D I believe u can’t make mistakes.. a sweet angel like u can’t make any mistakes.

LittleSpooky said on April 9, 2003 01:59:

Thanks animal. Make me feel loved =Þ

Twilight-Ghost said on April 10, 2003 16:18:

When I told my brother about this (Mr Moore’s Oscar was taken from him) he told me that it shouldn’t matter. It is not the award that is important, it’s the recognition.

Mr Moore now knows that he is good enough to win an Oscar...... and that’s all that should matter.

I also came across this petition when I was net-surfing yesterday.

http://www.petitiononline.com/nooscar/petition.html

What do you think of that?

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............ and as for Dixie Chicks. Those people who burnt their CD’s??? Some people who probably wouldn’t buy their CD’s bought it so just they could burn it. So, that’s more sales for them. (Lucky for them) Don’t you think?