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Why the GAY question is still a question...
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daniee said on February 26, 2003 13:47:
In regards to the previous (and ongoing) discussion on “Do you love boybands!!!”. The world-old question whether someone famous (or not) is gay (or not) popped up during this discussion.
And I would like 2 know WHY the gay question is still a question. Why are people/fans so interested in whether their favourite stars are gay or not?
Twilight-Ghost said on February 26, 2003 15:17:
I think if you are a big fan of a celebrity it is just in your nature to want to know everything about them, even those personal things (sexual preference, who they are dating, are they nice).
If you fancy a celebrity wouldn’t you want to know their sexual preference???
coyboyusa said on February 26, 2003 15:37:
i think some peopel are seeking validation for their own lives through celebrities I guess... personally you don’t have to look far there are plenty of respected NORMAL gays in hollywood and the music industry to be proud of. specualtion of a personas sexuality in some ways to me is offensive, it goes along the line i saqw in the followup to the gay 500 posting where someone said i should be able to hit on a str8 guy and he should just say I am not interested instead of kicking my ass...i ask why in gods name are u hitting on a str8 guy in the first place...thats whats wrong with gay culture as well, they are so disatisfied whit how they’ve molded themselves their looking at poeple they can’t have I mean christ haven’t we learned anything?
Stormkeeper said on February 26, 2003 18:10:
WHY the gay question is still a question
because sexuality is very big part of human, that´s why.
StillFar said on February 26, 2003 18:45:
coyboy...I don’t get you (seem to have a problem with that)...why shouldn’t I cruise a str8 guy. Girls hit on me quite frequently...you know, I feel good if it happens, cause it means someone is interested in me (in whatever way), which I consider as a good thing. Should I kick her ass just because she dares to hit on me? The same goes for str8 guys, I know a lot of guys that really feel flattered when gays cruise them, every guy should see it as what it is...a compliment! Cruising people is no crime, so I think I shouldn’t get my ass kicked for that.
Regarding the stars. Well I think it’s still a big issue. There are many celebrities that never came out to protect their career, as long as this is still the case, there’s no equality!
Vixzter said on February 27, 2003 00:11:
I think that these days its more ’cool’ if you do come out, where as back before the mid 90’s it wasn’t.
Thats why you see all these gay/lesbian actors on tv, in films and in music etc.
raelynn19 said on February 27, 2003 03:05:
I think its totally stuped to ask if people are gay because first off its none of their business and who cares.
Anarem said on February 27, 2003 04:47:
I don’t think it’s a stupid question. If someone were to ask me if I were gay, I would say yes, and move on. But it would also depend on how the question was asked, and who was doing the asking. It all depends on your comfort level, I suppose.
daniee said on February 27, 2003 06:48:
Well then.... interesting views everyone. So between ass kickin’ and cruisin’, the mid 90’s and today... roxette and the charts - everyone’s HAPPY, thus .... GAY (ta-da!!!)
Th_Th said on February 27, 2003 09:04:
It is not a stupid Question to ask. I have got one example here:
I know this married couple, (Male and Female), that have been married for 15 years. Now he started dating guys and is living with guys sometimes. He said, he always was gay and always knew, even before he got married to her! He said, if she would have asked him back then, he would have said he was gay, but she never asked. (By the wat I think that he is damn stupid to say such a thing...) No there she is, a mother of 4, this guy having messed up her life and family. (Her little daughter found gay porn in a drawer! Mother didn’t even know it was there!!!)
So, I think, no, it is not wrong at all to ask someone if he is gay. Does a girl get insulted when she is asked, if she has got a boyfriend? No, of course not! Does a guy feel insulted being asked if he has got a girlfriend? Of course not! So what’s wrong with asking a guy if he has got a boyfriend or a girl if she is dating a girl, which basically is asking, if they are Gay??? There is nothing wrong with it!
vaxjoe said on February 27, 2003 09:36:
yes it is annoying sometimes...do u ever ask the question “are u str8?” no!
Santi said on February 27, 2003 10:47:
Because many people (and many young girls with this boybands) don’t care about the music at all, and they just like them because they’re “famous” and “goodlooking”. People is in love with them, so their sexual preferences are a most important thing, since they “drive” sexual life of other people.
Maybe in the end they even like the music... but don’t you ever wonder why videos are so important? :O Because image is everything in this kind of things, because they don’t sell music or art, they plainly sell sex.
vaxjoe said on February 27, 2003 10:50:
...and its since videos became a trend that ppl started caring more about an artists looks...
have u ever had anyone tellin u:”ewww how can listen to him/her/them? he/she/they re ugly!”
talking bout art...
Santi said on February 27, 2003 10:52:
Yeah... a user did that in a topic about a band called “Coldplay”, not long ago.
http://www2.dailyroxette.com/smalltalk/thread.php/5815?p=1
vaxjoe said on February 27, 2003 10:58:
u have to be able to tell between being serious and ironic...and purplemedusa is anything but shallow...some others on the other hand..hm
wendy said on February 27, 2003 21:01:
So,vax,there’s something serioulsy wrong with ya,what’s up?? if you’re angry,i wanna know why,cuz,i don’t take this,...thx................
Santi said on February 27, 2003 21:47:
Well, about “ironic and serious” let’s say some things clear.
You know him but I don’t, you might know he’s “not shallow” but I have to rely on what I read here. People that you know better is not shallow, because till you know them well you can’t realise how someone is.
But in this forum more or less everyone of the regulars know how are the other... but just relying on what they write. So if someone “acts shallow”, even if he’s not, he appears to me like one. And to many other people.
About that discussion he had the chance to say he was kidding, since I took it as he was serious, but instead of that he said the very same again. So I just can understand what I read and from that point of view... yeah, there are people who thinks you can’t listen to someone ugly. Check the discussion if you don’t believe.
coyboyusa said on February 27, 2003 23:35:
its an incredibly stupid thing to hit on a str8 person...most gay peopel have a sense we referr to as gaydar we knwo who’s gay and who isn’t by approaching str8 peopel you open up a whole pandoras box ...as for the str8 girls I get it to...youy s8imply just say I am not interested or I am gay...lets not be naive women deal wwith thisa a hell of alot better than str8 men...this is yet again another example of how gay guyespecialyl are so self destructtive...if your not happy with whats out there then help to change gay attitudes...don’tt go looking for salvation by hitting on some str8 guy ..sheesh
coyboyusa said on February 27, 2003 23:37:
and personally i think the singer from cold play is cute even if his politics are a bit nah nevermind lol he’s just cute
purplemedusa said on February 28, 2003 07:55:
I hate to defend myself... and I will not! I will however refer you bact to the topic
http://www2.dailyroxette.com/smalltalk/thread.php/5815?p=2 for a re-analysis.
No, I’ll make it easy for you... what do you understand under the words, “Beauty separate vocals from average Joe’s to Fabulous Jane’s - who endup walking away with the longtime record contract and blow-up tits... Ain’t the music business remarkable?! “?
Some questions to think about... Was that a comment on the nature of the contempory music business or an indication of my loyal support for vanity?
@Vax, some ppl’s values never developed further than Disney Creolization! Not even mentioning the acceptance of influential thoughts from Postmodern and/or Marxist theories.
NickNL74 said on February 28, 2003 14:59:
I think I’ll just stick to my religion: Just be as you are and have respect for others.. then others will have respect for you and there will be no problem
vaxjoe said on February 28, 2003 15:41:
wendy: i dont understand your question...i was talking with santi and it had nothing to do with u...and i dont like it why u feel u have to get in the middle EVERYTIME him and me are discussing.
wendy said on February 28, 2003 19:25:
I just wanna know what’s up,it not such a difficult question,you act cold,ignorant,and weird to us since....a long time,and i dunno why....
Well,i understood already that you like Santi more then me,no problem with that,but,you have to understand also that we’re very close,and nobody can come between us just like that,we will always help each other...
vaxjoe said on February 28, 2003 19:27:
i never tried to come between u and santi!
I know that Santi is your bf...but he IS NOT only that! hes a person and i like him as a friend...so when im trying to have a discussion with him i ask u not to barge in...is that too hard to understand?
and i have nothing against U...i just think we have a different way of thinking so i choose to be distant
Jud (moderator) said on February 26, 2003 14:24:
dunno, other questions may be what hair colour he/she has, what shoe size he uses, does he smoke? is he married, then naturally comes is he gay? ;) just normal questions :P
Does it really matter what shoe size an artist has?? not really, but we ask anyway :P