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WACKO JACKO!
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ally77 said on February 3, 2003 22:20:
Did anyone in the UK see the Jackson interview last night... I watched some of it out of pure intrest... the guy is a complete fruit cake.
Okay he says he loves his kids... yet makes them walk around wearing masks to hide who they are... how many other stars do this to there kids. I know Per and Marie protect there children from the public as would any star but they do not go to such extremes.
And that poor baby... he was trying to feed it a bottle and the poor thing was crying... it had a scarf over it’s face to hide it from the camera.... you could see the child was clearly distressed.
C’mon Jackson... get a life and give your kids one!
Malmo said on February 3, 2003 22:57:
He still has some great songs nevertheless...
You can’t deny it, guys.
rox-kuryliw said on February 3, 2003 23:11:
i watched it, shocked , and felt sick
never gonna listen to his songs again,
he is a rich powerful perv.
i dont care, he writes a song then sleeps with kids.
mental problem big style.
it was digusting. i dont care what anyone else says its wrong.
Denstandigaresan said on February 3, 2003 23:16:
I liked him, until I saw the ad for the programme earlier, him sat there holding the hand of a young teenager. It was freaky. Sickazoid.
Anarem said on February 4, 2003 01:45:
When I was a little girl I worshipped Michael Jackson– I thought (and still think) that “Thriller” was a brilliant album. And as an adult, I appreciate the stuff that he did with the Jackson 5 and songs like “Don’t Stop Till You Get Enough” but I think he lost me around the time “Black Or White” came out. It just didn’t grab me.
Now, all I know of Michael Jackson is that he’s got deep emotional issues– father issues, addiction to plastic surgery... I feel sorry for his kids. Not all the money in the world can get rid of a parent’s emotional baggage.
Vixzter said on February 4, 2003 06:49:
I watched the whole programme......and saw Jacksons behaviour change several times, to be honest it shocked me.....those poor children! Jeezus.....if he cares about as much as he says.....why drag them about just so the media circus can hound them? They looked bloody scared to death.....the bloke needs to take a long hard look at himself.
Santi said on February 4, 2003 11:23:
“He still has some great songs nevertheless...”
Well, maybe. But he’s a lot false. I’m just thinking of the “Black and White” thingie. Look what he sings:
“I’m Not Going To Spend
My Life Being A Color”
“Don’t Tell Me You Agree With Me
When I Saw You Kicking Dirt In My Eye”
“If You’re Thinkin’ Of Being My Baby
It Don’t Matter If You’re Black Or White”
I think he’s the first person or at least one of the few that change his skin colour. So he’s singing this and he can’t accept himself as he is??? Does it really matter the colour? For me it doesn’t but it seems for him it’s everything, he’s obsessed with it.
And about a song called “They don’t care about us”, this might be the most “funny thing”. He recorded it with Brazilian style drums and the video was in Brazil, in one city’s (Rio de Janeiro or Sao Paulo, I don’t remember) favelas (a shanty town).
But he can’t even cross the street without that stupid mask, he can’t even be in a normal human environment. I can imagine he singing “they don’t really care about us” but thinking “and I’m the one who cares the least”.
He’s so untrue, it’s like a very bad copy of Bono, doing all this things as to clean his image but all he does is looking like stupid.
And well, about his songs, maybe yeah, there are some good, though I just like “Will you be there?”. But that’s depending on anyone’s taste...
vaxjoe said on February 4, 2003 11:30:
he didnt change his colour ....his colour changed because of a disease...
now that he is not no1 most of us try flaming him! not me...michael is a living pop legend the biggest one!
who can beat albums like THRILLER, BAD or even DANGEROUS?
so lets not put everyone against the wall just because WE are the audience WE can critisize everyone
btw santi for a non jackson fan u remember well the lyrics and videos :p
Jud (moderator) said on February 4, 2003 11:37:
hm I never liked him, just some songs, but not as to buy his albums neither ask a friend to record them for me...neither to download them now, I dont really like his voice.
Dunno what to think about his operations, his white skin, i think i just feel a big pity for him, and a disgusting need to puke when I see him on tv/ pictures - when i see him i just see a living skeleton! (but I guess that’s just me cuz i am very affraid of all this zombies and ghosts stuff-i dont like horror films!)
Santi said on February 4, 2003 12:06:
Vax: for the lyrics there’s the internet :D
A disease... yeah, sure, the disease half the black population would love to have when they are discriminated. It’s strange, he must be the only case... maybe is a money related disease...
That of who can beat those albums... well... as I said before it’s a matter of taste. I prefer Tom Petty’s “FULL MOON FEVER”, Oasis’s “MORNING GLORY”, Roxette’s “JOYRIDE”, Kent’s “VAPEN OC AMMUNITION” or The Stone Roses’s “STONE ROSES” at any time of the day and I don’t regret not having a single Cd from Mr. Jackson. I even bought the Greatest Hits “History” and gave it back after 2 days to the shop because I just couldn’t stand it... and bought Ace of Base’s “THE BRIDGE” instead :D
In arts there’s nothing better of worse, because it all depends on the taste (remember that Van Gogh was a very poor person during his whole life because his arts was worthless... and now his picture’s are sold by milions...) of the audience. For me, anything that Mr. Jackson has done is beaten by far...
Anarem said on February 4, 2003 13:10:
@ Santi:
I’m not looking to start anything here, but what do you mean by:
“a disease... yeah, sure, the disease half the black population would love to have when they are discriminated. It’s strange, he must be the only case... maybe is a money related disease...”
I’m not sure exactly what you’re getting at, but if you mean that half the black population wants a disease like vitiligo (sp?), I think you’re wrong. It’s a disease that discolours the skin (patches of dark coulour here, patches of light colour there). Who wants to be look like a pariah? No sane person does. Or do you mean that half the black population wants to be white? I don’t know about what it’s like in other countries but the black people I am friends with are proud of who they are. Sure, for them it would be easier to be white. But do they want to be? I don’t think so.
Mikey, on the other hand, is a really troubled individual. He’s got issues, whether he wants to be black or white is irrelevant, it’s much deeper than that.
Santi said on February 4, 2003 13:12:
I said “when they are discriminated”... Don’t get me wrong!!!!!!!
I never said black people don’t want to be black!!!!!!
Hotblooded said on February 4, 2003 13:13:
I just saw the special here in Australia tonight and to be honest, yes, Micheal Jackson is weird but that wanker of an interviewer was just getting on my nerves! I would have belted him one if he was making me look like a really crazy person on purpose! He only had one thing in mind to make Micheal look even more crazy then he is!
And the way he made such small pointless things into a big thing “Oh Micheal you climb a tree? No how can that be” what a down right fuck wit, who cares!!! He should be sacked!
Sorry it’s just that two hours of it made me mad and I’m not even a micheal fan!
See ya’s :)
animalkingdom said on February 4, 2003 15:44:
...I always end up defending his actions!
I still like him!
coyboyusa said on February 4, 2003 17:11:
i wil say this..you haven’t walked a mile in his shoes so you have no room to judge...granted some of the things he has done have been over the top..but he’s also one of the most successful black artists of all time...they man has spent literally every waking minute since the time he was 5 in the public light..i’d love to see u come out completely sane fromt hat experience
Vixzter said on February 4, 2003 17:17:
I have sympathy with Jackson, I just don’t see why the kids have to be taken through everything....seeing as he knows what it was like being in the spot light all his life maybe he’d realize what it might do to them.....or does he want it to be that way for them too??.
@Judith - I never liked him either ;) music that is.
@vaxjoe - so its not a case of flaming someone coz they’re not number 1 anymore.....his music just does nothing for me, although Billie Jean and Smooth Criminal are ok.
wendy said on February 4, 2003 20:25:
Wacko Jacko sux.............
Have you seen what he haves done to his kid??? :o
ally77 said on February 4, 2003 22:30:
Geez... what the hell did I start....
The interviewer was a bit weird I agree.... but I think MJ only agreed to the interview as the guy had a bit of an obsession with Princess Di and it was the same interviewer who did her when she was alive.
I had this freaky friend once that was obsessed with MJ... I would I was obsessed with Roxette but she was way over the top... lucky for me the friendship ended sooner rather than later....
If I could have MJ music’s then fair enough... but as for him as a person... no thanx!!!
pietROxette said on February 5, 2003 14:03:
A little game for Jacko lovers ;-))))
http://www.canal96.com/michael/michael.php
sweet_stalker57 said on February 9, 2003 02:02:
oh hell yeah!!!!!!!!! :)
okay,,,,, why does MJ shop at K-mart?
cause he saw their ad: boys pants half off.
Twilight-Ghost said on February 9, 2003 15:40:
About the interview....
I just want to know the name of the song that Jacko was singing when he was walking with his kids and the reporter. It was the time just right before they met his Spanish fans.
Aaso said on February 9, 2003 15:51:
Guys! It sounds like you have forgot the song “Heal The world” wasn’t it really a great one?? and I think he is the only one who can make all the people care about life...
For all those who have a weak memory:
Man in the Mirror
Heal the World
Earth Song
They don’t care about us
Will you be there
.... and so on
Jud (moderator) said on February 9, 2003 15:53:
I think the only song I like by him is that with Slash from Guns n roses
vaxjoe said on February 9, 2003 15:54:
aaso great idea!!! so the older remember and the younger learn...:)
i my add (those are pop epics)
Thriller
Billie Jean
Beat It
Wanna be startin somethin
BAD
Dirty Diana
Smooth criminal
Leave me alone
Black or white
In the closet
GIVE IN TO ME-JUDITH thats ur song :p
Who is it?
You are not alone
Scream
Aaso said on February 9, 2003 15:59:
Im one of his fans lol
ok
album: “Off The Wall”
Don’t Stop ’Til You Get Enough
Rock With You
Working Day And Night
Get On the Floor
Off The Wall
Girlfriend
She’s Out Of My Life
I Can’t Help It
It’s The Falling In Love
Burn The Disco Out
album: “Thriller”
Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin’
Baby Be Mine
The Girl Is Mine
Thriller
Beat It
Billie Jean
Human Nature
P.Y.T. (Pretty Young Thing)
The Lady In My Life
album: “Bad”
Bad
The Way You Make Me Feel
Speed Demon
Liberian Girl
Just Good Friends
Another Part Of Me
Man In The Mirror
I Just Can’t Stop Loving You
Dirty Diana
Smooth Criminal
Leave Me Alone
album: “Dangerous”
Jam
Why You Wanna Ttrip On Me
In The Closet
She Drives Me Wild
Remember The Time
Can’t Let Her Get Away
Heal The World
Black Or White
Who Is It
Give In To Me
Will You Be There
Keep The Faith
Gone Too Soon
Dangerous
album: “HIStory - Past, Present And Future - Book 1”
Scream
They Don’t Care About Us
Stranger In Moscow
This Time Around
Earth Song
D.S.
Money
Come Together
You Are Not Alone
Childhood
Tabloid Junkie
2 Bad
HIStory
Little Susie
Smile
album: “Blood On The Dance Floor - HIStory In The Mix”
Blood On The Dance Floor
Morphine
Superfly Sister
Ghosts
Is It Scary?
album: “Invincible”
Unbreakable
Heartbreaker
Invincible
Break Of Dawn
Heaven Can Wait
You Rock My World
Butterflies
Speechless
2000 Watts
You Are My Life
Don’t Walk Away
Privacy
Cry
The Lost Children
Whatever Happens
Threatened
other songs:
Butterflies (Remix)
Nite Line
Hot Street
Circus Girl
Elizabeth, I Love You
Someone In The Dark
On The Line
We’re The World (USA For Africa)
Trouble
vaxjoe said on February 9, 2003 16:07:
aaso im a fan too but i never bought invincible..can u tell me ur opinion bout it? most ppl say its bad :(
Aaso said on February 9, 2003 16:15:
Actualy he can not be what he was before. It wasn’t as much as bad as some people say (as you have to care that there are some people think the same about his other songs) *did you count my AS s* ;P
vaxjoe said on February 9, 2003 16:18:
ok it just didnt do it for me...i mean “rock my world” was ok but not what i expected from him..and “cry”was ok also but it was something missing...
Aaso said on February 9, 2003 16:24:
I can feel it too.. just something is missing. !! But I can not forget his world before.
vaxjoe said on February 9, 2003 16:47:
thats for sure...whats ur favorite cd? for me “dangerous” does the trick as a whole...of course bad and thriller got great tunes too...i also love scream !!! what a duet what a video woohoo!
Aaso said on February 9, 2003 16:55:
Wow! yes mine is dangerous too. specialy Who is it? did you know he plays the rhytm with his mouth??
vaxjoe said on February 9, 2003 16:58:
yeah “who is it” is awesome!
for me “give in to me” -i always had a weakness for his rock-oriented songs...and as a fan of Guns N Roses i love Slash on the video they look so cool those 2together!
Stormkeeper said on February 9, 2003 17:00:
Santi very good idea to buy Ace of Base’s “THE BRIDGE” instead! I have it too :)
Aaso said on February 9, 2003 17:01:
Fan of Guns n’ Roses???!!
ok boy it seems we have so much to talk about...
vaxjoe said on February 9, 2003 17:03:
aaso:indeed! we have! what other hard rock stuff r u into?
@storm and santi: oh plzzz the bridge better than history? thats a shame cmon :(
Aaso said on February 9, 2003 17:14:
Usualy I do not care about gener of music.. my faves are these :
Sting
Guns N’ Roses
Metallica
Michael Bolton
Rob Thomas
Robbie Williams
Chris De Burg
Bryan Adams
Michael jackson
....
you see I like every thing!! + Ace of Base!
vaxjoe said on February 9, 2003 17:23:
ok we agree on
Guns N’ Roses
Metallica
Robbie Williams
Bryan Adams
Michael jackson
from Guns...i love (except from the classics) rocket queen, dont damn me, get in the ring, estranged, right next door to hell, aint it fun, one in a million
the best one:COMA
also i love the live version of November Rain
Twilight-Ghost said on February 10, 2003 16:04:
I like most songs of Michael Jackson. I love his style. I’ve always believed that Mr Jackson is misunderstood.
Here are just some of my thoughts why he lives the way he does. I’m not saying I’m right, just my own thoughts.
Yes, I agree there maybe times that it would seem he is puerile. He is an adult man who sometimes acts like a child. He wishes he is Peter Pan a fairy tale character that never grew up. Built himself a “neverland” and likes to play with his toys. Could it be because Michael Jackson himself has been a celebrity and very popular since he was a young boy that he never actually enjoyed being a child.
So, maybe some of his actions is his way to reclaim his lost childhood.
Why does he sleeps with children?
First of all, I don’t think he really harmed the boy we saw with him in the interview. I mean look at the boy, he didn’t look scared, he was laying his head on his shoulders, holding his hand (in a friendly way) and when he spoke he sounded very sincere about Jackson.
Even if Jackson really molested a boy in ’93, maybe now he’s changed.
As a young boy, Michael Jackson suffered in the hands of his father. He knows what it’s like to be physically abused and to feel ’unloved’ as a child. (I’m not saying his father didn’t love him, maybe he just felt he didn’t) and therefore doesn’t wish any children would suffer similar fate. So, he tries to be nicer to them, could be the reason why he gives special attention to children.... and maybe deep down, he knows only a child could understand him (obviously adults can’t).
I’m not really sure if he is fit to be a parent. We can’t really judge him on that as we don’t know the pop singer personally. What we read in the tabloids about a celebrity is not always correct. Remember ’bad news’ is ’good news’ to the press (because bad news sells more magazines and newspapers).
People who are close to him has vouched for him that he is a good parent and good person. So, why should we believe the reporters who don’t even know him than those who are actually close to him.
I personally believe when he dangled his child few stories high from the hotel in Berlin, he probably didn’t realise how dangerous it was (he is just a bit immature). Everyone makes mistakes. I don’t think he will intend to harm his child, even Jacko said so himself “I was holding him tight, I was not gonna let him fall”.
... about feeding his baby. I must agree that I felt sorry for the baby because his face was covered, he was crying while Jackson was trying to feed him.
But remember this, Jackson and the baby was in front of the camera that’s why his face was all covered. Of course “off camera” (in which the baby and his other 2 children spents more time on) do not have covers on their faces. So maybe if Jackson is feeding the baby “off camera” (without the cover on his face) it wouldn’t look as bad.
The surgery:
I don’t understand why he would lie about this. It is so obvious he had plastic surgery. Maybe some of people theories are correct. He wants to change his appearance because he get teased a lot on how he looked when he was a teen. That’s enough to give anybody an emotional scar.
I think this is what Santi meant, that the disease “vitiligo” is convenient for black people who “wishes” they are white. I’m not saying that all black people wish they are white, just for those few who does.
I really believe Jackson wants to be white. I still don’t know why. I think he even wants to prove to the world that he has white genes. That’s why his children looks white and even if his youngest son is white, he lies that his mother is black. So, we would assume his son’s “white genes” is from him.
I’m not here to defend Jackson, though it may seem I did for most of the argument. I just thought we should atleast give him the benefit of the doubt.
............
As an artist though, Jackson ROCKS!!!!
He is so talented, clearly a singing and dancing prodigy. He could also write good songs. God must have a reason why he gave him such talents.
My favourite Michael Jackson songs has already been posted by many people here. So, I thought I’ll just share my favourite songs of his when he was a child.
My favourite songs of the (then) young Jackson are “Ben”, “I’ll be there” and “Smile”
In my earlier post I asked for a song that Jackson was singing when he was walking with his kids and I just found it is called “Smile”.
“Smile, though your heart is aching
Smile, even though it’s breaking
When there are clouds in the sky
You’ll get by...
If you smile
With your fear and sorrow
Smile and maybe tomorrow
You’ll find that life is still worthwhile”
............ maybe because of the criticism of his interview, Jackson surely needs that song to lift his spirits.
powerpoplarry said on February 13, 2003 09:09:
HEY, Elvis Costello does a version of that song “Smile” as well!! Could be that Wacko loves that song cuz Charlie Chaplin wrote it.
Um, my views on Wacko, um I think the guy is very talented, but I was never compelled to buy his records, not even “Thriller” when it was new. I always thought the guy was OK, not enough to buy his records, but in his heyday, seeing loads of fans literally FAINTING at the sight of him was a complete turnoff, I could never understand what the big deal was!! I still don’t. I always thought the guy had too big of an ego, this whole spectacle, and it turned me off completely. A coupla times, when I was able to actually separate the hoopla from the music, I did buy “History”, but his interview with Diane Sawyer, and the whole promo thing of sending the statue of himself down the Thames, just ruined it for me, and I sold it. PLUS, proclaiming himself as the “King Of Pop” was the biggest turnoff, as he’s NOT POP, he’s melodic R+B!! When you talk about POP, it’s about powerpop, bands like Cheap Trick, Roxette, the Beatles, Who, Kinks, Raspberries, Rooks, Adam Schmitt, the Bangles, the GoGo’s, ABBA, stuff like that, NOT Wacko!!
So in the end, yes the guy is talented, but I’m not a fan of his voice really. Yes, he has some good songs, but he’s literally in artistic denial, thinking he’s all that!! He’s no Prince, who is TOO prolific for his own good. He’s no Madonna, who is always ahead of the curve and brings the underground into the mainstream. Wacko spends 30 MILL on “Invincible” and it’s a lackluster album, yet I thought “2000 Watts” was interesting and kinda cool. He’s outta touch BIG TIME, and thinks he’s the KING OF POP??!!?? Please.... Per Gessle is the REAL KING OF POP. as he is pop on a higher level and he has hooks, melodies, riffs and choruses coming out of his ass!! Wacko can’t do what Per does.
Now, about his kids and his life?? The guy is wacked and had a misplaced childhood. I kinda sympathise for the guy, but he needs serious help. I think he is a total pedophile. He’s also in the closet, sexually, and if he doesn’t watch it, his kids will need help as well. The guy is a freak, and I think if “Off The Wall” and “Thriller” only sold modest amounts of records, and his fans didn’t go apeshit or treat him like a deity, he wouldn’t be as abnormal as he is today.
Santi said on February 3, 2003 22:33:
I think he’s just nuts... and he’s always been... He should be in a psychiatric hospital since 1980...