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Very Off-Topic: Euro / Europe
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roxlad said on December 6, 2002 21:04:
1. It’s nearly 1 year now that we have our new currency. Just to know... are you still converting Euro to your old currency or do you now think in Euro? To me both things happen... I got used to small values but when it comes to big numbers such as €145.720,00 I have to convert it to understand it....
2. It would have been great to have a little something (small print) to remember our old currencies like ...once we were Pounds... :-)
3. I find that it’s great to be united and it’s a lot easier to buy CDS from abroad!!! I wish for a Federal Union of Europe... maybe one day... FEU.
4. Boundaries... can’t figure out if Greenland is in Europe or not... (not talking about EU).
5. Euro has no plural!!!!!!!!
6. English: keep the Queen on your coins to be!!!
7. Swedes: any chances of having Roxette on? :-D
Jud (moderator) said on December 6, 2002 23:26:
1. For small quantities - Euro. For big ones.. i still convert it to pesetas!
2. yeah.. maybe..
3. Yeah i think it is easier to deal with one same coin, now i dont have to convert DM or NFL anymore :P
I like Federal Union of Europe more than the “united states of Europe” (who the hell came up with that name?) Although European Union sounds perfectly fine for me
5. No plural? Really? huh, i think I have always said 1 Euro, 2 euros :P
6. I guess it is better to keep the Queen.. since Charles ears wouldn’t fit! ;) sorry easy joke. I dont mind if it shows kings, monuments or flowers (in Austria they have flowers! in the smaller coins)
7. hehe would be a great thing lol to have Roxette on a coin, but I think that if this would be to happen, ABBA would have the honour,..?
Galning said on December 8, 2002 19:02:
I don´t convert in DM anymore. Well, sometimes... But for the germans it´s very easy. 1,95583 DM is 1 Euro. So, it´s more less 1:2. When something is 4 Euro everyone says “That´s 8 DM”...
but: I HATE THE EURO! Since we have the Euro everything is so much expensive! Sometimes you feel like that everything that cost 5 DM before cost 5 Euro today. To get the Euro was a very very very bad thing for all people who are living in Germany. The Euro costs so much for us. I wished germany never said “yes” to this fucking Euro.... And the name of the EURO sounds like a very bad joke. “This product costs 5 Euro” - that sounds so damn stupid. It sounds as stupid as the Euro itself is stupid... I want my good old German Mark (DM) back!
wendy said on December 8, 2002 19:11:
belgian Euros are stupid,bléh,our “king Albert 2” tsssssssss when they put “Manneke pis” on it ,it would be much cooler :p
I wonder what they’re gonna do when this king dies,they can’t change all the coins,right??? :s
roxlad said on December 8, 2002 19:19:
I think the Euro is a good thing but I agree about the fact that all the prices went up. But this is not caused by the Euro itself it’s the whole market that’s wrong. We all know that 1 Euro = 1 US Dollar but I think you can buy more stuff in the US with $1,00 than in UE with €1,00. They should put the prices down and not change the money again.
...when that king dies they will put someone else on the new coins and not change them all at once.
sweet_stalker57 said on December 9, 2002 01:24:
I was always wondering about the change also... the prostitutes in Amsterdam used to charge
100 gilders. is it more now? :p
Nefatari said on December 9, 2002 09:12:
Of course it’s caused by the Euro ... Just think of countries which had week currencies, like Italy, Greece, Portugal .. now they have the Euro just like those countries who had strong currencies like Germany or Austria.
To have a strong Euro the countries with the former strong currencies have a higher inflation than the the countries with former week currencies.
And the inflation has started long time before we’ve had the Euro in our hands.
Euro:ATS is 1:13,7603 ... but, if you like to buy sthg which used to coast 100 ATS you pay exactly 10 Euro .... That’s heavy inflation!!!
(of course the international economic crisis has also got to do with that .. but that’s not the main reason!)
Santi said on December 9, 2002 11:20:
I wouldn’t say that is the reason. In Spain the prices have increased a lot with the change to Euros too, and we did have a very weak currency with those pesetas...
I think it’s just that everybody is trying to make fast money taking advantage of the problems of thinking in the new currency. In Spain can happen that things that were 1000 ptas before (almost exactly €6) now are €10. They always round UP...
Vixzter said on December 9, 2002 16:28:
So why are things in countries with the Euro more exspensive now than they were before they got it??
Well ....they had to print all that new money didn’t they!!!! it didn’t grow on trees now did it :P
;)
Galning said on December 9, 2002 17:09:
Nefatari: You said what I didn´t want to say loud: We have the inflantation (is it the right word in english?) of all those weak currencys since 1st January 1999.... But that´s not the only problem and not the main problem. Since the 1st January 2002 the prices went high when we had the “real money” in euro... And the change to the Euro was expensive. To get a new currency is connected with a lot of costs you all can´t imagine... It was the most stupid thing we could ever do...
roxlad said on December 9, 2002 19:52:
To get 1 Euro Germans geve 2 DM...
Italians gave 2.000 Lire!!!! So there you go, rates were different and appropriate for each Country. It’s all about business!!!!!! Not Euro.
Santi said on December 9, 2002 20:40:
Yeah, because people doesn’t think in the real amount of money the notes represent because they are not used to. I have heard many times that “Euros last less than pesetas”, but it’s because the people who sets the prices made them higher to take profit of people unconsciousness (does this word exist? :D).
Countries with weaker currencies are not responsible, is the man in your shop, the ones that sells products to your shop... etc...
roxlad said on December 10, 2002 21:16:
I agree. In Italy most people think that cents count nothing...
Nefatari said on December 10, 2002 22:12:
Santi, I guess, it’s both, countries with former weak currencies and the man in the shop .. and I guess there are 2 or 3 more points, which causes the inflation and the “expensive”Euro!
LittleSpooky said on December 11, 2002 05:07:
GREENLAND IS NOT A TERRITORY OF AMERICA!!!!
Just to point that out. I’m still reading everyone’s comments here, so... *lol*
Santi said on December 11, 2002 11:18:
I didn’t mean it’s the United States of America, but a part of North-American continent. Geographically. At least in Europe is clasified as part of North America.
spyboo said on December 11, 2002 12:20:
1. small amounts, nope, bigger onces, sometimes just to be sure how much it actually is, but then most of the time because someone else wants to know. I don’t really care anymore, but sometimes, the euro makes it seem like i don’t have a lot of money, lol
2. nah, old currencies are dead, get over it!!! =p
3. Shopping is a lot easier, i remember when we used to go to luxemburg it was so easy, cos the money was almost the same as our belgian money (same value and same coins) so easy to buy cheap ciggies there, and now the same thing counts in a big part of Europe it’s heaven, no convertion problems, great for price evaluation =)
4. i thought Greenland was part of Denmark, but i can’t tell if it’s part of europe or not, oh, anyone know those small countries that are part of european countries but lay outside of Europe kinda like greenland, but now also have the euro as currency?? I don’t remember which one it was.
5. ok, nu plural huh? lol
6. oh, great more boring coins
Santi said on December 11, 2002 12:39:
Greenland is part of Denmark, an autonomous region of Denmark. But geographically is America, the same as the Canary Islands, Ceuta and Melilla are Spain but geographically they are Africa.
I guess the country you mean could be French Guyana, a little French speaking state in Northern South America from where ESA launches their rockets, the map of which is printed in EURO notes near the word EURO.
In this case is also an European territory on American continent.
Denmark has not EURO, so it’s not possible that Greenland has.
roxlad said on December 11, 2002 20:24:
1. I knew that Greenlad belongs to Denmark but geographically is near the American Continent... but also... it’s not so far from Iceland which is Europe so mmm.... still have doubts. Anyway recently they changed the Danish flag with their own flag so I think Denmark can have the Euro in the future and Greenlad might not.
2. I’d like to know what non EU citizens think about this...
3. If you get bored with this topic just say... I know it’s not related to Roxette nor to music so... very very off-topic.
i_jera said on December 12, 2002 15:56:
I find this topic for quite interesting (& also informing... never knew in which continent is Greenland really *LOL*)
I live in a country that is not part of EU (still) - Bulgaria, so at my point of view...:
1. our 1 lev is exactly as much as 1 DM was, so 1:2 isn’t hard to handle. but as we don’t use euro, we don’t need to think in euro
2. sure... but it is a way too early to think for this in Bulgaria. [we had changed our money (I mean, our coins & banknotes, not the currency) before 2 years or something because of the inflation - we just took off 3 zeros, so 1000 lv. went to be 1. ; then I saved some money of the “old” just to remember... so , I think it would be the same, whenever we become part of the EU and change our currency to euro)
5. really?? I always thought it is “euros”... *LOL*
6. here we have no queen or king, but anyway, I think the “faces” on our coins/banknots doesn’t fit really well... for 1 lv. we have Saint Ivan Rilski, who is... well, saint. I don’t think that there should be saints on *money*... doesn’t fit the case at all, if you got my point.
7. sounds nice, but never’ll come true, in my opinion.
and I have one quite stupid question:
8. where the hell is the “€” thingie on the keyboard????
LittleSpooky said on December 18, 2002 07:01:
Well, I haven’t had much experience with the Euro, so I can’t really comment. That, and it’s later than hell, so I’ll think s’more on it tomorrow. :o)
roxlad said on December 18, 2002 20:05:
I never thought this topic would have done so well... we’re not just pretty faces eh!!!! We should post this to some EU organization for statistics!!!
HASMAD said on December 18, 2002 20:34:
5.- It’s stupid to say in Spanish: 2 Euro, 3 Euro... it has no sense.
roxlad said on December 21, 2002 23:41:
I guess you’re right but it is a common currency so it can’t be written in plural (not all languages just put an ’s’ at the end...). I guess it’t alright if you just say it... in Italian the plural would be Euri which sounds very bad...
Alfonsette said on December 29, 2002 23:25:
@ Galning
Our coin was named ECU and that name was changed to Euro because of the German parliment, because they didn’t like that name
I think that “das Euro” is better than “die ECU”
It’s so stupid to say in Spanish 2 euro, 3 euro... but many people here in the south don’t pronounce any final “S” and that sound even more stupid.
mu13coins said on September 11, 2003 02:20:
I don´t like to stay so harmonized with other countries respect the coin, maybe could be very closest to some regions of a country, but not the whole country, then, why all on the euro zone have the same number of division coins, don´t you think that would be very funny that in example german, spain, hungary have more divisions on the metal of the currency. I really think that it is not enough 8 division on the metal currency range for me, I would need as minimum two more divisions. If you reform this we´ll be very frinds, and if don´t the same.
Who can inform me about the total number of formed area trades on the world.
Did you know that Bolivia, 4000 meters of altitude, is at the same time in two trade formed areas?
LittleSpooky said on September 11, 2003 19:27:
In the US, we go something a little like this:
Penny = .01
Nickel = .05
Dime = .10
Quarter =.25
There are some coins that are worth .50, but they’re not really that common.
Then you get into the dollar denominations:
1, 5 ,10, 20, 50, 100 and so on. I’d have to say that the most common ones used are these.
So, when your total reads:
186.41, you can do it in a variety of ways: one from each category (total up the #s there and that’s the amount). They’re too numerous to list, but most folk would pay with 2 $100 and get change back. It boggles the mind the numerous ways you can divide that up to pay it.
I’m going to bed now... that hurt *lol*
ally77 said on September 11, 2003 20:23:
In light of what has happened in Sweden yeterday, they will still go to the polls to vote on Sunday as to whether or not to accept the euro.
I wonder what the effect of the death of Anna Lindh will have on the results of the voting..
MiracleMan said on September 11, 2003 22:37:
I was wondering the same thing after I read an article in USA Today about Lindh.
It sounded like a rather heated issue. Any feelings on Sweden adopting the euro from the Swedes in here?
ally77 said on September 12, 2003 04:45:
I am no swede... but we in the UK are in same situation... I don’t really want to adopt the Euro as I prefer my own currency... beside Euro’s are like monopoly money??!! As for Sweden I go there often and I enjoy changing my currency to SEK, it is part of the fun of the holiday. If they addopt it they will start to use from 2006!!
Jud (moderator) said on September 12, 2003 08:03:
I guess that going on with the referendum is what Lindh would have done... as per what effects it can have in the results.. I was also thinking on that, but there can be 2 reactions:
- some may vote NO because they may feel this coin has already costed the life of a person.
- Some may vote YES in honour of Lindh cuz she was PRO Euro...
So I don’t think the results will be *really* that affected.. we will see though..
The thing is, in their “contract” with the EU, it says they MUST get the Euro, it just doesn’t say WHEN. So if they don’t get it now (in 2 years, 2006), they will have to get it anyway in 10 years.. so I wonder.. what’s best? to get it already now or in 10 years time?
If I would be Swede, I wouldn’t get it at all. I am still waiting to see the great benefits of the Euro, ah, I don’t have to change my coins everytime I travel from Vienna to Barcelona or vice versa, but hell, I have been doing that my whole life and it was just one more step to go on holidays! And then, most Swedes spend their holidays in Asia or Eastern EU countries where Euro will take LONG to reach.. so they will have to exchange their coins anyway (sek or Euro)...
I guess if i would own a supermarket chain or a phone company I would be in love with Euro - prices have gone up, ppl would pay more for everything + still keep on spending, as sheep we are!!
derek said on September 12, 2003 10:50:
well heres one person who does not like the euro (yet)everything has gone up in price 8%in some places the shops are making a killing from people who do not yet understand it and i feel very sorry for the old people it must be very confusing to say the least .but it does make it easier when you travel in europe. but still the countries are not all the same yet when it comes to prices
LittleSpooky said on September 12, 2003 18:07:
The only good thing I can see about the Euro is what Jude said: Not having to constantly change money. The markets were VASTLY different across Europe and as a tourist, I’d have to change from country to country.
derek said on September 13, 2003 18:18:
thats about the only good thing with the euro at the mo no bank changing and charges at the borders
Santi said on December 6, 2002 23:14:
1. I do think in €. It’s a lot easier, not so high numbers... when it comes to big numbers I never knew what was that in pesetas, so... :D
2. No, it’s better not to remember the others. Their time passed, and the way it is with the national sides i have more than enough (sorry, don’t like the one with our king...).
3. Well, I had some problems with books coming from Italy :D It was a price printed and they charged me some € to it. I the beginning I had to think a little why they charged it :D That of the Federal Union would be great... but I think we’ll have to wait a lot :(
4. Greenland is America. It’s an autonomous region of Danmark as far as i know but American.
5. Didn’t know :D In Spanish it has :P
6. Is it needed? I don’t really like coins with their kings, like Belgian, Dutch or Spanish :( Italian and French are so cool :)
7. I guess not. Not a Swede, but my opinion is that they’ll get the 3 crowns (Tre kronor :P), the king, maybe an elk...