Go Marie!!!
rainbowgirl said on December 24, 2001 11:04:
Hey, are there any crazy Marie fans out there? Isn´t she most beautiful, talented, attractive and gold-hearted woman in the world? She is an angel! I think what makes her so sweet is her simplicity. She doesn´t try to act like a star. Love her always. She is my true hero and idol.
regn said on December 24, 2001 16:02:
Here she comes; to bring a little lovin’ honey, here she comes to take away my pain inside, she’s everything i want from life...
rainbowgirl said on December 27, 2001 07:26:
I´m not gay either, but I still love her very-very much too!
Bibi said on December 27, 2001 09:17:
I am not lesbian either. I love Marie so much but it’s a non-sexual love!
Sparvogamarie said on December 28, 2001 19:16:
My world, my love, my life....
So nice to see other crazy Marie fans around here! If you wanna check out my Marie site, it’s http://worship.roxette.org I’m gonna update it soon, I promise!!
And so long as we’re all saying it...I’m not gay either!!
rox74ever said on December 28, 2001 20:18:
hey! whats up with the “im not gay”thing?
who cares! we are talking about Marie here!
i think she’s a godess, but still PER is my favorite who, cause HE got the look!
vinterangelHH said on December 29, 2001 10:05:
Oh, it was me who started it... the „and I’m not gay”-thing.
Just mentioned it because if you say you LOVE somebody whose sex (gender?) you feel attracted to, it is- of course- a different feeling compared to when you say you love somebody of the sex / gender you are generally NOT attactred to. God this is hard to explain. Guess I just meant I “love” and admire her in a non-sexual way.
annaG said on December 30, 2001 05:17:
well the whole sex thing doesn’t really mater does it, I would go for either of them any day any time.
’True love might come from behind’!!!
animalkingdom said on December 31, 2001 08:56:
Even without that “I’m not gay” addition I believe everyone would know what you mean by saying you LOVE Marie.
Sparvogamarie said on December 31, 2001 20:59:
I think most of us were just saying “I’m not gay” to make it clear that our love for Marie is clean, and that we’re not thinking dirty thoughts when we watch the video for Do You Get Excited hehehe!!! But if any lesbians wanna say they love her “in that way” it’s just fine by me. Marie wouldn’t care either, she has gay friends and she supports gay pride and all that stuff.
If anyone here is in love with her... then you have very good taste in women!!
roxing-Jane said on January 1, 2002 09:48:
???? Why was my name now Anonymouse??
Do I have to understand this?
Ok, than I’ll try it again!! :-)
Hej Hej!! :-)
I’m a big Mariefan!
And, ok! I’m not lesbian, too!
But as I red for the first time here the answers I really ask myself why it is so important if you love Marie
in sexuall way or not! (lesbian)
You are all writing that you are big Mariefans, BUT NOT lesbian! Why is this so important?
But yes, I know this problem! It’s not easy to be a female Mariefan, you always have to live with the
question if you are lesbian or not.
But I personly don’t care about what people thinking about me. I’m a big Fan of Marie and I think she’s
the most wonderful woman on earth! :-)
För evigt och för alltid!!
Mollie said on January 1, 2002 10:34:
I love Marie in every way - as a person (as far as I can say this, not knowing her personally) and as a woman... She´s very beautiful.
I like videos as “Do you get excited”... I love to see her that way!!
Bibi said on January 1, 2002 12:19:
roxing-Jane, I don’t think that WE are the ones who ask ourselves if we are gay or not! I think the problem (?) are the other people who might think that we are gay! Someone asked a friend of mine if she is gay because she said that she loves Marie. But she isn’t. She “loves” her like most of the people here...and she doesn’t have “dirty thoughts” when she watches certain videos!
sweet_stalker57 said on January 1, 2002 13:44:
well I am a straight guy but I don’t wank to Marie or anything like that!
she is just awesome!!!
but I still wish she had posed nude :(
oh well, some more of you mini-Maries will have to pick up the slack
this summer! ;)
I will bring x-tra film!
Cinnamon said on January 2, 2002 00:08:
In my opinion being a rox fan means being a fan of Marie AND Per, whether you´re a boy or a girl!!!
But I remember meeting them last october - I was much more impressed by Marie. I´ll never forget her smile and her beauty as she was standing in front of me - I thought I´d die in this moment!!!
Per seemed to be more like “a big brother” or something like that to me... But that doesn´t mean I didn´t notice his sweet smile or anything else about him... ;-)))
roxing-Jane said on January 2, 2002 02:28:
@Bibi: You are right, the problem are the other persons.
But we have to live with this kind of questions. When I began to become a Mariefan some years ago my mum asked me if I’m lesbian, when I talked about Marie one day.
Nobody asked me things like that before I was really shoked, since that day I had a problem with saying that I’m a fan of a woman.
But with the years I began to handle it and now I don’t care about what people thinking about me. My family and friends know that I’m not and this is the most important thing for me.
All about this I “love” her anyway! :-)
By the way: Gay is when a man loves a man. ;-)
Bibi said on January 2, 2002 11:05:
Well first of all I am happy that MF never posed nude!!! I wouldn’t like to see that!!!
@ Roxing-jane: I never asked the question to myself because I am sure about it that I am NOT lesbian and that I love Marie like...a good friend or so. I never had the desire to go to bed with her...!
But of course I am aware of the fact that other people might think that - also because of my banner...!!! Do you remember ;-)? And of course I am also wondering what MF thinks...?!
But my mother never asked me if I am lesbian. No one asked me the question.
roxing-Jane said on January 2, 2002 11:19:
@Bibi:
Of course do I remember your banner! ;-)
I’m sure that I’m not lesbian, too! I “love” Marie in another way, not the way thinking to do any dirty things with her in bed.
But, you know my mum is very conservative, she still can’t understand that I’m such a BIG fan of a woman and esp. Marie!
She never understood that I think Marie is beautiful, we had many troubles because of her. Yes, and one day there was this question.
It’s not very nice when your mum asks you something like this.
Bibi said on January 2, 2002 13:37:
@ roxing-jane: I think I was shocked if my mother had asked me that question! My family and my “normal” friends don’t understand why I worship Marie! And probably it’s really hard to understand for someone who is not a fan...!
But of course I do understand why you love Marie and I also understand that you can love someone without having dirty thoughts...!
It’s so hard to describe in a few words why I admire MF...!
And actually I had a lot of trouble at home too - because of Roxette! My family is not very happy about the fact that I am a crazy fan and they think that I waste my lifetime!
They tell me all the time that MF never did something for me!
Sparvogamarie said on January 2, 2002 15:20:
I’ve been asked so many times if I was gay (gay is *not* just a word for men, it can mean lesbian also) and it can be really annoying. I always wonder if Marie thinks I’m gay cos I wanna hug her all the time! I don’t think she would care but I guess most of the other people here would agree that we don’t want people to think we are lesbians if we are not!
vinterangelHH said on January 2, 2002 15:41:
@Bibi resp. your family ;-)
I think Marie gave AN AWFUL LOT to everyone who admires / loves her -> INSPIRATION, first of all, which is such a precious thing, don’t you think?
And then, in this interview on the “Äntligen”-DVD, when being asked what in her opinion “drives” all those “crazy” fans to worship her and to follow her to all the concerts, Marie herself REALLY hit the point: “Jag tycker att det är balsam för deras själ” (I think this is balm for their souls) - and that’s what is really is, I think: for the past 12 years, whenever I was going through an ugly phase in life, Marie (= her music, her concerts, meeting her, whatever, or even just reading or listening to an interview with her) always helped me to see this phase through, to have moments of happiness and keep in good “mental shape”. And in good times, she and her music makes life ever better.
Last but not least, consider all the fun we all had on tour and all the friends we made and who we might never have met “without” her.
HERREGUD, this is hard to explain, but I hope you understand what I mean anyway.
regn said on January 2, 2002 18:29:
I’M AGREE with u; if i only see her at ’95 on CBB tour this was one of the BEST moments in my life!!... well i know her solo work since ’94 (rox, since ’92)and i enjoy everything ’bout her (pics,songs,videos etc) jeje so i can understand what u mean... well i’m a man gay, but marie really got me crazy jajaja... thats the way life is... KEEP ON ROXIN’
roxing-Jane said on January 2, 2002 20:08:
@Bibi:
It’s funny, but I had the same problem like you until I moved in my own appartment.
I always had big trouble at home cause of Roxette, and of course there was always the comment:” do you think Marie will help you when YOU are having problems?”
And still I have to live with comments like: We thought you will get “normal” when you live together with your boyfriend.
Sometimes it annoyes me soo much and I think: HEJ! It’s my life!!
I can’t really explain, too what I think it’s so really special at Marie! :-)
roxing-Jane said on January 2, 2002 20:14:
VinterangelHH: I totally agree! :-)
The music of Roxette & Marie helped me very much in bad times, it’s crazy but it’s true! :-)
bluesue said on January 2, 2002 21:07:
I’m going through a hurting phase at the moment and I keep listening to the *efter stormen*-cd. It helps. Thanx Marie!
Bibi said on January 2, 2002 23:53:
@ Sparvögamarie: I wonder the same! I said to her “Jag älskar dig” and I don’t know what she thought about it. But I hope that she understood what kind of love it is...!
@ Roxing-jane: And my family is of the opinion that I am too old for being a fan!!! And they think that I should deal with other things instead. My mother would be very happy if I was a fan of opera...!
Moreover they don’t like that I spend so much time with e-mailing friends and surfing in the internet. This is a waste of time according to them. And of course - can’t forget to mention that - they complain that I waste so much money for Roxette!
@ Vinterängel: You are right!!! Her music gives me so much! And I will never forget all the great moments that I had because of HER!!! So she did something for me! But my mother won’t understand that...
roxing-Jane said on January 3, 2002 00:35:
Oh yes, sometimes I really ask myself what Marie should think about me. At the Oberhausen concert (room service) I was standing in front of her. When it was quiet for a second I sreamed “Marie, I love you!”, she looked to me and smiled.
Now I think, my god what she might think about me? But I think she understood it right!
PerFanatic said on January 3, 2002 06:37:
@ Bibi & Roxing-Jane,
I’m not sure how old you are, but I’d be willing to bet you’re quite a bit younger than me. At age 34, I flew 6000 miles JUST to see Roxette in Sweden last November. Tell this to your parents and maybe your fanism might not seem so crazy to them by comparison. They might think I’m some whacko but trust me, I’m about as normal as it gets. I have a very good job at which I work my ass off. This hard work entitles me to do things that are important to me and that trip to Sweden has been a dream of mine for a long, long time. Is essence, there’s nothing wrong with being dedicated to something you love (like Roxette). As long as you don’t abuse those around you becaue of it. I hope that one day your parents will understand this.
Bibi said on January 3, 2002 09:13:
Thanks PerFanatic! Fans like you help me a lot!
I am so thankful to all my Roxette friends because they are the only ones who understand me!!!
@ Roxing-jane: I am sure that MF thought the right thing!!!
In one of the concerts a guy was screaming “ich liebe dich” ( for those who don’t understand German: it means ” I love you”) and I saw a BIG smile on MF’s face!!!
roxing-Jane said on January 3, 2002 10:11:
Hej PerFanatic!
Thank you very much for your replay!
Yes, what you did is in fact really crazy, but cool! ;-)
When I think about the C!B!B! Tour I’m still getting very sad.
My parents wouldn’t allowed me to visit one Roxconcert, and this concert took place in my town.
They said I was to young for visiting concerts, so silly! I was at this time 15 almost 16!!!
Why couldn’t you tell us this story some years earlier? ;-)
Maybe they would have let me go, when I told them this story. Shit!!
Mollie said on January 3, 2002 10:58:
@Bibi:
You wrote on page 1 of this decision (under the thing I wrote):
“(...) Someone asked a friend of mine if she is gay because she said that she loves Marie. But she isn’t. She “loves” her like most of the people here...and she doesn’t have “dirty thoughts” when she watches certain videos!”
Just wanted to say that I dont have dirty thoughts watching certain videos (in case you thought so) - I just like to watch them. Maybe I love Marie a little bit more than “a friend” or “a sister” - but I dont have dirty thoughts about her. Just wanted to say that...
rainbowgirl said on January 3, 2002 11:24:
@ roxing-Jane - If I were you I would have done the exact same thing, I have always wanted to tell MF that I love her. Unfortunately I haven´t had this chance yet. I don´t think that she would take it any wrong way.
@ Bibi - you are absolutely right, other crazy fans in here understand perfectly what you are feeling. I´m younger than you are and my mother considers me too being too old for all this fan stuff. She thinks I should pay more attention on studying. And she is really bored of all this Roxette and Marie music I listen all the time!:)
Bibi said on January 3, 2002 12:29:
@ Mollie: I didn’t want to say that YOU have dirty thoughts! I just wanted to say that my friend doesn’t go to bed with MF in her fanatsy...!
I am sorry if you understood it wrong!
Bibi said on January 3, 2002 12:32:
@ rainbowgirl: how old are you? I am 21 and I am happy that I see also fans here who are older than 30...!
rainbowgirl said on January 3, 2002 13:00:
@Bibi - I´m 19. I think that being a fan does not depend on age, so it makes me happy too to see fans in all ages here. But I don´t see why our parents can´t understand it!
vinterangelHH said on January 3, 2002 13:13:
Well, I am 29 ... physically at least (there must be something wrong with my passport ;-))Anyway - I used to be a REALLY crazy Roxette (Marie-) fan back in 1989 to 1992 - my whole room was plastered with Roxette pictures, I had 1000000000 penpals, spent all afternoons and evenings writing letters, putting newspaper stuff and photos into thick folders and working for their fanclub (the Dutch one which still exists, but at that time a different person was “El Chefe”). Thank god my parents were REALLY cool about it! they never complained or gave me a hard time. They thought it was fantistic that I had - what they called it -a great hobby which made me happy, gave me a lot of friends and enabled me to travel around!! And I even learned Swedish because of Roxette!!
Nowadays, I’m living a “normal adult life”, you know, working, hobbies, boyfriend, going out and everything ... of course Roxette (Marie) are always there and I’m listening to their music a lot and I like to chat in the Roxette forums etc, but it is not as excessive as it used to be 10 years ago. But then, everytime I go to a concert and see Marie perform (or meet her), it just says BANG in my head and I feel exactly as crazy as in the past and could easily get back into the old fan life (-> anyway, I’m trying at the moment ... to get back a bit of fanlife I mean - for instance it is SO nice to get in touch with other Marie fans in here again ;-) and spend much more time on Rox.
It just never stops, it is not a question of age ;-))). WHICH IS GREAT AS I WOULD NOT LIKE TO LIVE WITHOUT IT! It is so special! e. g. originally, I had only 2 tickets for the Room Service tour, but after the first one, I was so so so so so so so absolutely fascinated (“BANG!!!”) and everything that I ended up seeing 6 concerts and I even travelled to Göteborg to see the final one. And these days were one of the absolutely best of 2001!!!! So we should all be grateful that we have this “craziness” in our heads because it gives us really crazy (= exciting) moments in life - no matter what other people might say.
rainbowgirl said on January 3, 2002 13:58:
vinterangelHH, that was a really sweet entry! I agree that this something we all should be proud of - that we have this special feeling inside of us! It´s just so good to love and idolize someone, even if you don´t really know this person. Most of my friends tell me that I´m crazy, that I waste so much money on Roxette etc. They can´t see what´s so very extremely special about MF. That´s why I visit TDR and other Rox & Marie sites -to find people who understand me. I can see that here are lots of them!:)
vinterangelHH said on January 3, 2002 15:31:
Yeah! I mean ... APART from admiring MF and having this special feeling for her .... just take “touring” (travelling around to see loads of concerts) as an example: travelling ... visiting different countries, cities ... meetings loads of friends ... chatting ... doing crazy things, sleeping in crazy places ... laughing our heads off ... it’s like a great holiday with the little extra: CONCERTS!!front row ... that MAGIC moment when the lights go off ... music ... dancing & singing along ... sometimes even an exciting meeting with M & P afterwards... = total happiness!!
All this ... it’s the perfect KIX (-> to also get a little PER in here, hehe) and wonderful special memories which you keep forever and which you definitely don’t get from going to the pub or going to the cinema or lying around on the beaches of Majorca.
So, HOW can any of this be a waste of time or money?
aaah! I’m feeling passionate about this *grin* !!!
ANDRE-EA said on January 3, 2002 23:08:
I am a big Marie fan too,and I thank God every day that I met her last year.
Marie,you are the best!!!!
Bibi said on January 4, 2002 00:34:
@ vinterängel: I wished my parents thought that it is a great hobby...! Everyone, my friends and my family, think that I am crazy. Ah! There is only one “normal” friend who thinks that I have a great hobby!!! She understands me although she isn’t a fan!
My mother even thinks that it is EMBARRASSING what I am doing! She said that she doesn’t dare to tell anyone about my activities...! And she said that I should finally become adult! But according to her there are three good things about Roxette:
- I learned Swedish
- I learned to use the computer
- I learned to drive the car ( I was always so scared to drive on the freeway but because of Roxette I did...)
But I live perfectly with being a fan - writing to friends, swapping stuff, putting articles etc in big folders, putting posters on my wall and having sometimes glorious moments with Roxette =)))!
Bibi said on January 4, 2002 00:38:
@ rainbowgirl: of course it doesn’t depend on your age but I am happy that I can say that there are people who are older than me and they are fans too! You know, my mother thinks that I am too old for all this...
daanmarie said on January 4, 2002 03:58:
@roxingjane, bibi,vinterangel and sparvogamarie...
We all feel the same about MF. We admire her for the wonderful person that she is. For the fantastic voice she has etc. She’s our idol, we would like to be such a wonderful, caring person as MF is. We like everything about her, the way she dresses, the way she does her make up and hair...you know GILS STUFF.
Stuff that men really don’t look at.
Arn’t we too old to care what others think about us and being MF fan?
As long as it feels good inside of your heart you should continue loving and supporting her. If that makes us look childish or weird, fine....do we CARE? No, cos WE KNOW that MF APPRECIATES our support and it feels right to support & love her.
If people think you’re lesbian cos you’re a fan of a woman they REALLY don’t get the piont! This is a total different kind of love. Thank god we still have EACHOTHER, we understand what it feels like to be MF’s fan :-)
Cinnamon said on January 4, 2002 04:14:
@ Bibi: No one who isn´t a fan can imagine what they´re doing for us all the time!!! It´s enough if we know...
You girls: Just imagine we WOULD BE gay: Would you mention all the time “No, I´m not hetero ( is it called so? ), yes, I adore Per, but I´m not...? ...
j_adoreMF said on January 4, 2002 04:22:
Absolutely true words! We’re living in 2002 for godsake. Who cares if you’re gay or not these days? So why mention it atall!!!??? It’s NOT important what you are but WHO you are!
Cinnamon said on January 4, 2002 04:43:
Oh, I missed the 2nd page...shit...*sorry*
I remember me being 13 years and my father´s girlfriend told me: “What do you want with these two ...?” (some word for them which really wasn´t much friendly...) Now I´m 24 and I´m still a fan, even more than I was at that time! There were long times in between I wasn´t sure of my feelings...no other fans, no new singles, no tour, no news about them anywhere...but the moment last october I met them for the first time in my life made me sure about my feelings were right all the time!!!
Btw, my boyfriend is 43 y.o. and I was really afraid of the moment he first visited me at home. What would he think about me? Wouldn´t he laugh about my pictures and all the stuff? But no, he didn´t! There was a situation we were lying in my bed above which is a big picture of them. He looked there and said sth. like “I get the feeling they´re watching me...” ;-) Yeah, they´re watching over me all the time...!!!
rainbowgirl said on January 4, 2002 05:19:
heheh... I was at this situation when my best friend (a girl) visited me at the first time... She wasn´t so cool about it as your boyfriend, she thought it was really childish to have so many posters on the wall. She thought I should take them off, so my room could look more like adult´s. I didn´t of course and by now she has accepted and got used to it. Anyway, this is MY room and how could anyone else tell me what can I have there and what not??
Mollie said on January 4, 2002 05:48:
@Bibi:
No problem - just sounded as if you would mean me because you just wrote it directly under my entry (where I wrote that I like to watch special video clips)...
Talking about this parents-thing:
About 10 years ago, my parents hated Marie because they were afraid she could put me on the “wrong” side (gay) - they saw, of course, how much I was into her. Now that I got a boyfriend, they are really happy, I think.
PerFanatic said on January 4, 2002 06:16:
@ Mollie...
So you’re parents thought you might become gay because you idolized someone of the same sex? Wow, and I thought my parents were “old school”. Mostly all of my childhood & teen idols were male athletes or singers and I’m pretty sure my parents had no doubt that I liked women (as far as being partners anyway). Of course, I don’t think they knew that the singers in Erasure and Alphaville were gay, but I doubt that would have made a difference.
Mollie said on January 4, 2002 07:04:
@PerFanatic:
Yea, my parents thought I could become gay because I admired Marie (I still do!). By the way I was together with a woman for a very short time (during that “Marie-time”), so they had to think that Marie “made it” (managed to make me gay).
Are you boy or girl?!? (Sorry: VERY stupid question, I guess...)
PerFanatic said on January 4, 2002 07:31:
@ Mollie
I’m a guy... btw, you can check that on people’s profile by clicking on their name (assuming they tell the truth, of course).
Mollie said on January 4, 2002 07:41:
@PerFanatic: Oh... huh... stupid... should have known this!
And you are (as your name says) Per-fanatic? :-)
Bibi said on January 4, 2002 08:56:
@ daanmarie: THANX for your nice entry!!! There is so much truth in your words!!!
You are right, it feels so good to love & support MF and as long as I am of the opinion that it is right what I am doing here I won’t stop being her fan!!! I feel that she deserves that we love her and I want to know everything about her - how she is, her character, what she feels, what she thinks, what she likes and what she hates - just everything!
-Gee- said on January 4, 2002 10:32:
*agreeing with j_adoreMF* ...some peeps are still living in middleage and talking like being gay’d be sth bad!
if you dont want others to think you’re gay, tell them in the same breathtake that you aren’t gay as you’re telling em you love marie.
little-miss-sorrow said on January 4, 2002 10:53:
...well...though I’m not one of the biggest marie fans (uh, don’t missunderstand me, I really really love her and she’s absolutely great, no doubt about that, but I’ve always been a bit more fascinated by Per than by her) I take the chance to take part in that little discussion here... because it seems to have turned a little bit into a “being fan” discussion... most people around me (including my “non rox fan” friends and my parents) don’t say anything about my rox love. Well, my parents sometimes look a bit strange when I tell them I’m gonna travel 15 hours to see the same show again I have already seen five times before but who cares? ;o) And that’s the point! Reading this discussion there was one statement by daanmarie that REALLY impressed me. Aren’t we just too old to care what other people think of us? That was so nice said, really! I remember, when I was younger and I made new friends or just met new people I was always scared what they might think about me when they find out I’m a rox fan. But today I don’t give a f**k (sorry ;o)) about that. And hey, people take it easy most times. I also think being a fan doesn’t depend on the age. I’m a fan since I was 12 and I’m 22 now. Why the hell should I stop adoring somebody just because I get older?
So I think everything’s alright, we all lead quite normal lifes next to our “being a roxer” (at least the people I know from TDR ;o)) so nobody can say we’re doing something bad.
Bye bye!
Bibi said on January 4, 2002 11:28:
@ little-miss-sorrow: well, that’s also my argument! I always tell my mother that I can’s stop being a fan so suddenly only because I became a bit older! I mean you don’t change your attitude, etc. only because you wake up one morning and your are 21...!
AND when I get to know new people it’s one of the first things I tell that I am a big Roxette fan. I mean they would find it out anyway - latest when they see my room ;-)!
roxing-Jane said on January 4, 2002 11:29:
@Bibi: Hej! ;-) I totaly agree!
I got really happy as I red here all the new replays, it feels so great that here are so many other Fans who understand what I’m feeling!
@daanmarie: You are absolutly right! Since about 2-3 years I really don’t care anymore about what people think about me, if they think I’m lesbian or a crazy Roxettefan!
Now I’m on the point that I think “It’s my life!”
Why shouldn’t I be a Fan of a woman? my mother still has a problem with it. I think she’s still frightened that Marie could bring me to the “other” side.
She told me one day, she wouldn’t know me anymore when I would get lesbian one day. It’s so hard to hear such things from your own mother.
I’m sure she hates Marie and she’s convinced of that Marie is lesbian cause she’s looking so masculine! Crazy, I’m right??
This to the point: Parents!!
Bibi said on January 4, 2002 11:45:
My aunt was here on Christmas and when she saw my room she was shocked - hehe every Christmas she is shocked about my room ;-)! And she tells me every time that she is of the opinion that my room looks horrible and that she can’t understand why I like THIS woman. She thinks that MF is not beautiful LOL! Well, I gave up to defend myself...!
Bibi said on January 4, 2002 11:51:
@ roxing-jane: I had so many discussions with my mother! I think the last BIG one was after the tour. I came home after the Frankfurt show and I was lying crying in my bed because I missed MF so much and I didn’t want to believe that everything was over.
I remember that I tried to explain my mother one time why MF’s music is so special. I tried to explain her that her lyrics are so amazing and my mother said that she you can’t worship Goethe only because he wrote great poems :-D! Does that mean that MF is on the same level as Goethe ;-)?!
rainbowgirl said on January 4, 2002 12:51:
@Bibi - just like your aunt, my mother thinks MF is not beautiful too. She hates her hairstyle, she has said that sometimes she looks like a man! But I think that this is one of the reasons why I admire this woman - her originality, she doesn´t try to look or act like some hot babe. She is special.
And you really can´t compare Goethe and MF, it´s like comparing Shakespeare and Madonna:)
Cinnamon said on January 4, 2002 14:05:
I wouldn´t call her look masculine. The only so-called masculine thing about her is her short hair. She´s more feminine to me like any other women. I.m.o. women with short hair are the most beautiful!!!
She IS a hot babe!!! :-)))
Mollie said on January 4, 2002 14:55:
@roxing-Jane:
When I started to admire Marie (about 1990) my parents had the same fear, they thought Marie would put me on the “wrong” side. But fortunately they would never have said that they don´t know me anymore if I had really “changed the side”.
By the way, Marie is the most feminine woman I know, no matter if short or long hair.
roxing-Jane said on January 4, 2002 19:56:
Thx so much for your answers! :-)
Now, after so many replays for Marie, what do you think would she think about us when she would read this here?? ;-)
roxing-Jane said on January 4, 2002 20:02:
@Bibi: I really couldn’t believe it too that the Tour was over for me after Frankfurt.
When I think about that I will first see her maybe at the end of the year, it makes me feel really sad!
Perhaps I’m really crazy!! :-(
royalball said on January 4, 2002 22:34:
My heart goes out to many of you. First of all...you’re never too old to be interested anything you like, or have a passion for...look at me...I’ll never grow up!! I hate grown ups!! Remember what Per said, “It’s a state of mind.” But my heart really goes out to all of you...in a way I completely understand you...I don’t know what I would do if my parents asked me if I was gay....well...actually I would tell them “no” because I’m not gay...but...my so-called friends and my cousin think I’m gay. I have a lot of guys approach me all the time. To make things worse, my cousin actually told some of our friends that he thought I was gay...Is that messed up or what?
It’s just that I’m not very aggressive with women...believe me... I love women...but I just never know what to say to them...I’m actually very, very shy. It’s much easier for me to be aggressive on the internet.
Anyways, I do love Roxette’s music!! I’ve never had a desire to learn music, or study music until I heard Roxette. I don’t know... maybe I’m stupid...but...Roxette did have an impact on my life. I do have a passion for Roxette’s music. I don’t really listen to anything else. I never dreamed of being able to write songs, let alone travel to Sweden and making new friends.
I remember my travel agent agent looked at me funny ’cause I was going to see some band...when I was on a train in Sweden a man laughed at me ’cause I went all the way to Sweden to see Roxette. It’s simply because some of these people just don’t understand...they don’t know about the parties...the meeting of new friends...travelling by train together...the hotels...the restaurants we eat at while we share stories...
Sparvogamarie said on January 4, 2002 23:24:
@ iadoreMF and Gee....nobody said being gay was a bad thing, I know that I personally explained a few times that the reason I said I wasn’t gay is because I wanted to make it clear of the way I love Marie....which happens to be in a non-romantic way. Nobody here is saying anything bad about being gay. I even said (somewhere on the first page) that if you are gay, that’s just fine and Marie wouldn’t care at all. Jeeez.
Bibi said on January 4, 2002 23:51:
@ rainbowgirl: my parents think the same!!! They say that she looks like a man!!! But I don’t care! I think that she is beautiful and apart from that I am of the opinion that you shouldn’t judge someone because he is beautiful or not!
So in my opinion MF is beautiful and - which is the most important thing - she has a good heart! She is so nice and mostly she also treats fans nice!
I also like that she lets us know so much about herself in interviews and songs. I don’t think that many popstarts speak so openly about themselves!
Reading MF interviews is something very special!!!
Bibi said on January 4, 2002 23:56:
Roxing-jane: RoxPearl was so lucky that she had one show left!!!
And I am so scared that it will take a long time until we will see MF again! And there is actually another thing why I am scared...! This summer I have exams at university and I don’t know when they will be!!! I am so scared that Roxette will go on tour and the concerts will take place when I have these stupid exams!!! So I hope that they will tour a bit later or maybe next year...!
rainbowgirl said on January 5, 2002 02:13:
@Bibi- there was a rumour that Roxette will continue their tour at autumn. If it´s true then you manage your exams and can join the tour too!
roxette-lover said on January 5, 2002 03:43:
well i admire marie as well, when i saw her live on her äntligen-tour..it was just awesone..her voice,her perfect-body..everything.she is just THE most perfect woman i can imagine
funny that you mention parents opions.
my father finds marie very attractive and good-looking.
can‘t believe that someoe thinks she‘s looking masculine. just a very short while after the cut in “simc” times.
the exams..yes i‘m also afraid of the summer..i want to see roxette more than anything in my life..
gabbe said on January 5, 2002 05:30:
I’ve always been a MF fan...she’s the best in this part of universe.I love her even though i don’t like girls, hehe.
roxing-Jane said on January 5, 2002 06:44:
@Bibi: I really can’t imagine that there will be a new album this year And a Tour in autumn!
How would they manage this? No, I think there will be a new album around autumn and a Tour next year.
But if there’s a new album this year, there will be promo Tour.
You know what I mean, Bibi?? :-))
roxing-Jane said on January 5, 2002 06:44:
@Bibi: I really can’t imagine that there will be a new album this year And a Tour in autumn!
How would they manage this? No, I think there will be a new album around autumn and a Tour next year.
But if there’s a new album this year, there will be promo Tour.
You know what I mean, Bibi?? :-))
Bibi said on January 5, 2002 08:36:
roxing-Jane: I don’t think so either! Per said it but I don’t believe him. I think it was the first enthusiasm! According to me it’s impossible but you never know...!
And about the promo tour...! Of course I know what that means...;-)!!!
rainbowgirl said on January 5, 2002 10:15:
But there was a talk that they might continue Room Service tour at autumn, because there were so many countries they didn´t manage to visit this year.
Mollie said on January 5, 2002 14:24:
@roxing-Jane:
You wrote:
“Now, after so many replays for Marie, what do you think would she think about us when she would read this here?? ;-)”
I had the same thoughts before... what would Marie think, reading this? Unfortunately she never will because she does not like computers, what a pity.
But I think she would read it with big interest and would maybe love her fans a little bit more afterwards. Guess she is interested in how her fans are, what lives they have and so on.
Sparvogamarie said on January 5, 2002 22:34:
@ Mollie - actually it’s not true that Marie doesn’t use computers. My friend spoke to her husband, and he said that they use the computer all the time, and Marie does send email! She was also on a TV show talking about websites about herself (they even mentioned my website, wow!), so maybe she has been here...I don’t know if she has the time to read Small Talk, but it’s possible!
Bibi said on January 6, 2002 01:59:
I know what MF would say if she read all this: GET A LIFE!!!
:-D
@ rainbowgirl: I know but do you think that they would tour in a country where they were never successful and where they didn’t sell many records and where they don’t have many fans?
And in case that they will record a new album they won’t have so much time to tour!
rainbowgirl said on January 6, 2002 02:23:
@Bibi That´s true of course. But we have to keep hoping the best! Can´t wait to go to the concert again and meet our darling MF!
roxing-Jane said on January 6, 2002 03:47:
@Bibi: Yes, you are right, she would think “get alive”! But I think she would be a little proud, too. I hope so!
But this year there won’t be a Tour, I’m sure.
How would they manage this? Recording a new album and plan another Tour in maybe 9 month??
No, I don’t think so!
But I would be really happy if there would be another album this year and a promo Tour through Cologne!! ;-))
roxing-Jane said on January 6, 2002 03:55:
@Mollie: Marie does use computers?? You mean she’s sitting next to Micke and he’s writing e-mails for her! ;-)
Bibi said on January 6, 2002 05:48:
@ roxing-Jane: I think we should rent a flat in Cologne...;-)!
I totally agree with you! They need about 1 year to record an album and then they have to promote it and they have to prepare the tour! That takes maybe 1 1/2 year! It’s impossible to make it within 9 month. It was only possible if they released an album like “Tourism”...
Bibi said on January 6, 2002 05:48:
>@Mollie: Marie does use computers?? You mean she’s sitting next to Micke and he’s writing e-mails for her! ;-)
LOL!
rainbowgirl said on January 6, 2002 05:51:
@ Bibi - me too! It´s necessary, because I want to see all their shows and it´s gonna cost a terrible amount of money. But it´s so much worth it!
Mollie said on January 6, 2002 05:58:
@ Sparvogamarie and @Bibi:
Okay okay, I was wrong informed then... I thought she is not so much into computers and so on! I thought so because it is always Per who answers fan-questions on www.roxette.se and I think he said one time that Marie does not like computers. But maybe he was just kidding.
Well, then let´s hope she looks on this side sometimes... Does somebody have her email-adress?? Then we could mail her that she should take a look! :-)
Bibi said on January 6, 2002 10:00:
@ Mollie: I heard her saying in an interview that she doesn’t use the computer so often!!! But maybe she changed her mind and now she is completely addicted LOL ;-)!
@ rainbowgirl: that would be a dream but I don’t think that I will manage that...
j_adoreMF said on January 6, 2002 10:12:
I think it’s Micke who’s checking out the internet. And he’ll probably tell her about it. But I doubt that she’s interested enough to really read the stuff.
Mollie said on January 6, 2002 11:17:
@Bibi:
Can´t imagine that she is completely addicted... but nice imagination! :-)
@j_adoreMF:
Maybe she would read it sometimes if she had the time...
sweet_stalker57 said on January 6, 2002 11:36:
hmmmm... no one gave me any grief for flying 6000 miles to see Rox.
(to see Marie actually!) ;)
maybe they fear me and wouldn’t speak their mind. :p
and can’t anyone tell a lesbian just by looking?
the sweet stalker can! but he is very attuned to the female face and form
so maybe he knows best. remember me asking where your boyfriend was
Sparv? did you get a new one in Sweden?
and Bibi, leibling, I mean some artistic nudes! not in neon green fishnets
with red high heels!
mmmmm.....
http://www.geocities.com/pink_weasel/art1.jpg
bring some boys home if your parents are so concerned!
or just don’t share your MF love anymore.... it is too special for them
to understand. :)
and I still say your favorite icecream in mint chocolate chip!!!!!
Esther said on January 6, 2002 12:54:
Hello everyone!!!
I’m a huge fan of MF because she is such a great artist ,a talented musician ,and she is a woman with a great heart !
So I will always be her fan and I will suport her forever!!!
Es*
p.s Hej hej till Bibi &Sparvögamarie!!!
royalball said on January 6, 2002 14:31:
Hehehe...SS...I remember when you asked Marie about her boyfriend while we were in line...I’m very sure she remembers!
You’re such a freak!! I like that...just like me!!
roxing-Jane said on January 6, 2002 20:39:
@Bibi: There’s no need to rent a flat in Cologne, I live here! :-)
I think I should tell Marie about it, next time when she’s here she needn’t to pay for the expensive hotels. ;-))
Bibi said on January 7, 2002 07:43:
@ roxing-Jane:Hehe she is also welcome in Bonn...;-)! That’s not far away from Köln and it’s not such a HUUUUUUUUGE city - compared with Köln anyway...;-)!
@ Ester: Hi! Nice to have you here now!!! I was missing you in this discussion...;-)!
Bibi said on January 7, 2002 07:48:
@ Sweet Stalker: I am still wondering who you are! I think it was you who told me that I was already co-staring in a DVD ;-)!
AND that’s definitely NOT my favourite icecream!!!
By the way: thanks for your useful pieces of advise LOL!
AND while I remember: I don’t want to see any nude photos of Marie! Neither an artistic one nor one with high heels!!!
sleepingSingle said on January 7, 2002 08:54:
What a stupid discussion!!!
Yes, I‘M MALE AND I´M GAY. YES GAY!!! And I´m also a big Marie-Fan.
To read the statemants here makes me angry - makes me feel sad.
Marie is doing a great work for gay people (women and men who love people of the same sex) and you, who say are fans of her, write such a shit!!!
Sorry! But we have 2002 since some days. And although I´m gay and feel attracted by men, I have a heart and I have feelings and I can LOVE some one from the deepest part of my soule.
Just think about it!!!!
sleepingSingle said on January 7, 2002 08:59:
What a stupid discussion!!!
Yes, I‘M MALE AND I´M GAY. YES GAY!!! And I´m also a big Marie-Fan.
To read the statemants here makes me angry - makes me feel sad.
Marie is doing a great work for gay people (women and men who love people of the same sex) and you, who say are fans of her, write such a shit!!!
Sorry! But we have 2002 since some days. And although I´m gay and feel attracted by men, I have a heart and I have feelings and I can LOVE some one from the deepest part of my soule.
Just think about it!!!!
sleepingSingle said on January 7, 2002 08:59:
What a stupid discussion!!!
Yes, I‘M MALE AND I´M GAY. YES GAY!!! And I´m also a big Marie-Fan.
To read the statemants here makes me angry - makes me feel sad.
Marie is doing a great work for gay people (women and men who love people of the same sex) and you, who say are fans of her, write such a shit!!!
Sorry! But we have 2002 since some days. And although I´m gay and feel attracted by men, I have a heart and I have feelings and I can LOVE some one from the deepest part of my soule.
Just think about it!!!!
sleepingSingle said on January 7, 2002 08:59:
What a stupid discussion!!!
Yes, I‘M MALE AND I´M GAY. YES GAY!!! And I´m also a big Marie-Fan.
To read the statemants here makes me angry - makes me feel sad.
Marie is doing a great work for gay people (women and men who love people of the same sex) and you, who say are fans of her, write such a shit!!!
Sorry! But we have 2002 since some days. And although I´m gay and feel attracted by men, I have a heart and I have feelings and I can LOVE some one from the deepest part of my soule.
Just think about it!!!!
roxing-Jane said on January 7, 2002 10:53:
@SleepingSingle:
I don’t know what replays you exactly mean which makes you angry, but we are talking here about the different feelings to Marie.
Ok, for many of us it is not easy to live with the feeling that someone could think they are gay cause they are a Fan of a woman.
But nobody wrote something against gays!
And most of us wrote that they don’t have any problem with it, so I don’t know which problem you have.
I really don’t have any problem with my situation that anybody could think I’m lesbian and I wrote this before.
And I don’t have anything against gays, why should I?
Why shouldn’t we talk here about what we feel for Marie and in which way?
For me it feels very good to talk about it, and I think I’m not the only one here!
-Gee- said on January 7, 2002 11:17:
doing revenge for the Per-Thread:
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bluesue said on January 7, 2002 11:28:
Mmh, I think what he meant was, that so many stipulated that they were not lesbians! And looking from this point of view it really seems, that being lesbian is something bad. If they think being lesbian is okay: Why do they write that they are NOT. I mean, one should not care..one should live his life happily and let everybody be in peace, without saying: I am that way, I am not THAt way..*don’t know if i did express myself correctly*
roxing-Jane said on January 7, 2002 12:30:
This is exactly what I didn’t understand when I visited this Topic for the first times.
Always the same phrase: I’m a Mariefan, but i’m not lesbian”!
I really couldn’t understand why it is so important, but now I think everyone only wants to say in which way they “love” Marie.
I only can say I don’t have any problem with it.
sweet_stalker57 said on January 7, 2002 15:17:
Beebz, she wore that funky Stars dress, played the
guitar on the potty and spanked her own butt in
front of millions! she can only go up I say! :)
sweet_stalker57 said on January 7, 2002 15:22:
mmmmmmmm.....
http://www.mcduffskeep.com/parrish/pictures/Stars.jpg
royalball said on January 7, 2002 19:26:
I can’t say that I love them but I love their music! I like them!
Bibi said on January 8, 2002 09:30:
@ SleepingSingle: Well, I don’t have anything against gay people and I know that YOU know it...! And actually I didn’t want to discriminate against gay people. But the fact that I haven’t got anything against gays doesn’t mean that I want that other people think that I am gay! I am totally aware of the fact that many people think about us female MF - fans that we are gay! So I just tried to make clear in what way I love MF...!
I hope that you will write to me soon again!
sweet_stalker57 said on January 8, 2002 14:49:
Daaave, I wasn’t trying to get into her passport I could just tell she had a boyfriend
back home (and that she wasn’t a lesbo and not that there is anything wrong with it if she was)
and I am interested in the drama and problems that would occur by
being away from each other for so long. I am not her type!
I was chillin with a homie from California in Holland and he said his girlfriend
was supposed to come with him but they got in a fight so he ditched her!
O_O I was also told about a guy who drags his girl around the shows with
him and the hate for Rox was evident in her face! heh! that stuff interests me
greatly for some reason. and why did our WCB go with out his wife!?!?!
so peeps, spill the stories!!! :)
Sparvogamarie said on January 8, 2002 15:10:
@ sleeping single...what is with the oversensitive gay people here? Ok I’ve already said this like 3 times, but I’ll say it again: The reason we said we are not gay is because we were saying that our love for Marie is a non romantic love. It’s got nothing to do with our feelings about homosexuality. I can’t speak for everyone here, but for me personally, I think it’s fine if you are gay and I have a lot of gay friends. And for the last time, NOBODY here said that being gay was bad! If you’re getting so upset about it....maybe it’s you who has the problem with it?
sleepingSingle said on January 9, 2002 10:59:
@bluesue and roxing-Jane
Thanx for understanding me right!!!! That´s what I meant.
@bibi
Hope you can understand a bit. I´m sure you didn´t want to upset anyone.
You see some others felt the same....
sleepingSingle said on January 9, 2002 11:14:
@Sparvogamarie
I just would say that I´m not oversensitiv and that I don´t have a problem with beeing gay.
When I posted my massege (or better: masseges - My computer didn´t work corectly. Maybe he went also crazy... :-))) ) I was just reading the first page of this discussion. And what I read always and always again is “...not that you think I´m gay...” or something like that. And that can hurt you if you´re gay!!!
If you read this and don´t know what “gay” means you have to be afraid that you could also be gay.
I hope you could understand my complicated words. Didn´t find easier words to tell the same...
I would like to finish that “gay-discussion” at that point. I think noone here would hurt someone personaly. At least I didn´t!!!
LOVE & PEACE
regn said on January 9, 2002 22:08:
MF had beautiful messages in her lyrics & interviews she always said; I JUST TRY TO BE MYSELF ; if we could take this like an advise, the fear of be what we are, just went away (hope u understand what i’ve tried to say).
gesslefan_no1 said on January 10, 2002 05:57:
Love Marie. But I love Per more. God, tell me something that he doesn´t have. He´s a brilliant composer, very goodlooking, funny, he has the very cutest voice I ever heard, he has the most beautiful smile, he is kind, he is rich... what more can u ask from a man??
Sparvogamarie said on January 10, 2002 12:23:
@ sleeping single: that’s cool, I understand what you mean. Nobody here meant to insult anyone, it was just hard to find the right words to describe our feelings about Marie! I think that as a fan it’s hard to explain why we love her so much...I mean we don’t really know her so it’s a strange kind of love! Sometimes people think I must be weird because I’m so crazy about a woman who I don’t really know. I’m so glad to see there are other people out there who feel the same too, I’m not alone!
roxing-Jane said on January 10, 2002 20:00:
You are so right sparvögamarie, it felt so good to read all this messages. :-)
vinterangelHH said on January 11, 2002 06:01:
Yeah, this is oh-so-true ;-)) It feels good to know that there are other nice people who feel the same way and to chat with them.
Hey, we should start up a special forum for all Marie addicts and supporters all over the world ... that would be great!
Although the Rox forums are really cool, it would be so nice to have one specially for Marie ...
Esther said on January 11, 2002 06:12:
Yes ,this is really a good idea!!!I likes it a lot!
It’s so nice knowing that there are others mf fans (like me) out there that can perfectly understand what does it means her for us!
Es*
Sparvogamarie said on January 11, 2002 23:42:
Great idea Vinterangel! I’ve been meaning to start a Marie forum on my site for a long time but I thought nobody would be interested. My site is about to be updated and I was going to put a forum on then, but since you guys are asking, you can use it now at http://amazingforums.com/forum/WORSHIPMF/forum.html
juneafternoon said on December 24, 2001 11:15:
And she’s blonde!!!
What else do you ask from life???
Huh...Your message confused me.