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How much alcohol is too much?
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TinyBubbles said on June 22, 2006 17:22:
Seriously.. how do you know if you are overdoing it?
Debora said on June 22, 2006 19:15:
If you can’t remember your name, if you fall down every two steps, if you can’t speak correctly... well, you have drunk much.
LittleSpooky said on June 22, 2006 21:08:
Tibs: You can do whatever you want with this advice, but at least read it, please:
You know you’ve got a problem when all you can do is think of the booze. When you start to say “I can quit anytime” but you don’t, it’s a problem. When the only solution to MINOR irritations is to grab a beer (or a hard drink), you’ve got a problem. When you notice your friends and family don’t want to be around you any more, you’ve got a problem.
When you first wrote about this, and I didn’t say much of anything, I screwed up BIG TIME. I enabled you to keep drinking. I am the granddaughter and niece of 3 recovering alcoholics. My grandfather has since passed away, but he didn’t die of anything alcohol related. He had stopped drinking by the time I was in the 3rd grade. This includes beer. He and my grandmother went to AA meetings all the time.
I don’t know why my mom’s oldest sister drank, but I do know and completely understand why her oldest brother did. He is a Vietnam Vet, and he’d been declared dead TWICE. Both times, he was no where near the area but because there were no survivors each time, it was assumed he had died. I don’t know when he started, but I know he hasn’t touched it for as long as I am aware of.
I’m worried about you Tibs. Something in your life has gone wrong enough for you to find “comfort” in a drink. I could stand here and tell you that it is not the solution, but I am fairly confident you know this for a fact. What I will tell you is this:
You have a lot of your life to look forward to. That WILL be cut short if you persist on drinking. I live with 3 people whose lives are difficult at times because they have liver problems due to drinking. One guy has Hepatitis C due to it. His life expectancy’s been cut almost in half due to his drinking.
Tibs, I love you enough to tell you: Get help. Find something like Alcoholics Anonymous or somethin like that. If you were here, I’d spend the time with you in a meeting just to be your support. 25 / 26 is too young to throw your life away. Wait until you get to be my age (31), then we’ll talk about you bein an old maid ;)
Love you muchly,
Tara
Room_service said on June 23, 2006 04:21:
I never took more than 3 gin tonics, so I was a little dizzy. That’s all I know about alcohol. In fact, I was never drunk!
FirstGirlOnTheMoon said on June 23, 2006 06:28:
I have a friend who I met while we were studying. She is a fun person to be around and we used to go out drinking a lot. Back then I did not think it was serious. I figured, we were students, we were free, we could do what we want...
Then, after a series of events (and what I believe was Divine Intervention), my friend realised (and for the first time admitted) that she had a problem.
It’s been a long road since then, but she will be celebrating her 5th sober “birthday” in July!
My advice is this: First of all, listen to LittleSpooky. Then, if you think that you have a problem, GET HELP. You cannot do it on your own.
Do you still live in JHB? If you want to go to a AA meeting, but don’t want to go alone, let me know. I’ll go with you. ;)
ally77 said on June 23, 2006 12:07:
TB,
I was thinking myself of recent weeks I was becoming more dependent on beer and cider, and it was only last week I decided I needed to quit drinking to get to how I was before (a person who never drank anything….)
Life is really crap right now, as low as low can go for me but I decided it was not going to get any better if I carried on drinking, started out as the odd beer here and there, but then I noticed I was buying more and more.
Anyway I gave what was left to my neighbour last week and I’ve not had a drink since.
It’s great if you can control it, but for me it was doing me more harm than good and so I decided against it.
I could just murder a beer but it 1pm and its not a great time to be drinking right now….
TinyBubbles said on June 26, 2006 07:09:
Lols Ally.. i get to tdr and see two threads i started lumped together “how much alcohol..” and “coke addiction” Haha. Funneh. I’m ok i guess. Trying not to think so much about stuff. Trying not to question myself so much *rolling eyes* I dont understand how ppl love. I dont understand how i can hate someone i loved so much. Or maybe its that i dont understand how i can love someone i ought to hate so much. I dont know how people trust. I’ve started to question even friends now and its such a shitty feeling. Mostly i hate having to question myself so much lately. 3 Years i ignored my instincts. My gut. Why?!?!!?!? How could i allow this to happen to myself? And it’s just easier to drink and be happy. Not to think so much. Wish i could turn back time. Not be so naive. So gullable. Pffffff. Live and learn i suppose.
That is such a grand gesture firsgirlonthemoon wow. But hey i hope i’m not that far gone that i need to get help. Yet. Thank you very much tho.
And i’m really sorry Tara for what happened in your family. I dont ever want to end up like that believe me. I do worry yeah.. so i ask people. I promised i would never keep drinking a secret. And i will stay true to that. I tell friends and family - i remain completely open about this. Some think i’m treading in dangerous territory and others think i’m still safe. And again.. how can i trust my own gut if for 3 years it mislead me you know?!? So even i dont know if i’m messing up or not. I dont want to end up wasting my life. Dont wanna stop drinking just yet either. It is helping me for the time being. I know i’ve been partying a bit hard lately but it’s better now. I’m not getting drunk by lunch time anymore :P I needed that. To get some things out of my system. Did me some good. I didn’t sleep for a month. Tranquilizers/anti depressants - they just messed me up. I did not eat for a month. Family were getting frantic. I was in really bad shape. Then i started drinking. Which helped me to sleep. And god it even gives me an appetite. In that way it has been good for me. I think i will stop drinking when my heart heals completely. Its nearly two months after the bomb exploded and i’m already doing better. I’m already drinking less. And listening to more roxette. Which makes others around me wanna drink :P
Good on you Ally! Alcohol should be used in moderation. sooo.. to rephrase my first question completely..
How much do you drink if at all? (you as in TDRians, not Ally:P )(god i’m not making sense today. I’m not drunk i swear haha its just early in the morning:P)
How many units a day and do you drink every day or do you drink nothing during the week and get hammered over the weekend?
ally77 said on June 26, 2006 08:32:
@ TB, I know what you mean about questioning friends and stuff, been there myself in the past week... for once and all I am determined to get myself sorted in the coming months!
I’ve not had a drink in a week now.... was tempted esp with the footie yesterday but refused, stuck to the coke... which is now giving me toothache!
LittleSpooky said on June 26, 2006 16:08:
When I drink, it’s usually when I’m out in Wendover, NV (“West Wendover”). That way, I can get as buzzed as I like, and I’m sleeping at one of the hotel/casinos. I usually make reservations for 2 nights, sometimes 3 if I can afford it. I don’t start drinking until after noon, and usually it’s around 2pm. And even then, I manage 1 6oz. glass (cup) of a White Russian / 1.5 hours.
If I’m really looking to get hammered, I’ll go up to the bar, set up a tab and then feed myself those until the tab runs out. Somewhere in the interim, I’ve had enough foods like fries / baked potatoes / dinner rolls (as well as meat, veggies, milk) that it takes a while for a buzz to happen. I don’t drink on an empty stomach.
I discovered that I can easily become an alcoholic. I like the taste of hard liquor WAY TOO MUCH.
TinyBubbles said on June 27, 2006 11:04:
Hey LittleSpooky... should have said this in my last post.. but i’ll say it now. Thank you for your words and your concern. Me appreciates it mucha amigo.
*hug* I actually think i would very much like to discuss things with you yeah..
I like vodka :) And gin and tonic was my middle name at one stage.. GOD LOL this isss like AA meetings :P
I try not to have more than 2 units a day and i try not to drink everyday.
zaine said on June 27, 2006 12:04:
what is it people ’like’ about vodka?!
i cannot stand the stuff! :P
LittleSpooky said on June 27, 2006 18:52:
Tibs: I’m always around with my e-mail. With my goofy-assed work hours and my school hours being from 7 - 10:30pm MDT, IM may not be reliable. But I’ll always be around with the e-mail :)
*huggles muchly* And what do you consider to be a “unit”? 6oz / 8oz / beer stein?
Zaine: It’s a preference. It’s like Guiness and a few other Irish drinks.
eBay said on June 28, 2006 07:07:
@zaine
The taste, the kick.. I love everything about it!!
I am a Vodka person big time!!!!
ncurran said on June 28, 2006 09:18:
With spirits i kind of go through stages....i drink one thing for a few years and i get so sick of it that i go onto something else. I cant stand the taste of vodka at the moment. In general i am not a big spirits fan...i will always start on the beer (prob the only drink that i really enjoy), then i will go on to gins with soda water. If its a really big night out then i will have some tequila, although it is vile.
There is another drink that i found a couple of months ago called ’Purple Rain’, and not sure what exactly was in it but I think it was blue bols and sambuca. The barman pours it into a wine glass and sets it on fire...then pours it into another glass and puts the wine glass upside down on the bar top (trapping the fumes). You down the drink, then take a straw and suck up the fumes from under the wine glass, then the last few dribbles of the drink are poured on to the upside down wine glass and you take another straw and snort it all up! The drink is absolutely lethal, but great if you want to get drunk quickly!...only found it being served in one club though, in a city i dont live in anymore, so prob wont be having it again unless i make it myself.
I suppose i am quite lucky with alcohol...i have an addictive personality when it comes to most things (cigarettes for example, which i have tried to give up numerous times!). But with booze, i never drink on my own, never really get any cravings for it....it is only when i have a night out with friends that i would drink. At some points in my life that has been 4 nights a week...at the moment, i am not really going out at all. On Saturday i will be going out for the first time in about 3 weeks, and i havent had a drink in between....so i dont really think i would ever become an alcoholic, though i certainly could classify myself as a ’binge drinker’ as when i do go out i go out big style!
TinyBubbles said on June 28, 2006 11:41:
Suzanne... its more about the effect than the taste :P What i like is i can drink a lot of it and get happy but not get so drunk. Beer and cider make me drunk so quick all i have to do is look at it :P My sister is the exact opposite. Weird how alcohol affect different people.
I LOVE my gin and tonic. Love it a lil bit too much. Oh man i’d love one now :’( Never thought i could stare at a can of coke and wish it were a gin and tonic instead. LOL.
I think most people are binge drinkers. Wait till the weekend and then use up all the units :D
Tara: Me thinks i might just start emailing. Be afraid, be very afraid :D Thanks hun.
TinyBubbles said on June 28, 2006 11:45:
A unit could be a glass of wine or uhm.. wait *goes and fetches a bottle of cider*.. 340ml. sorry dont know about oz :S
I always understood it that way. Maybe someone else knows better..
LittleSpooky said on June 28, 2006 15:21:
I can convert, no probs (I have a converter for F to C and everything into metres / km) :)
Kathrin said on June 28, 2006 20:00:
I was drunk 2 times!
Nr.1 at my 13th B-day [Cause my Friends where very sneaky and they putt a bottle of champagne into my bottle of ,,Robby Bubble”(a non Alcoholic strawberry flavored drink]
Nr.2 At a Promday Party at School!
TinyBubbles said on July 1, 2006 14:44:
http://www.mindbodysoul.gov.uk/alcohol/soberup.html
I’m trying all of the above :P i wanna be sober for the game.. dont wanna accidently cheer for england hahaha.
TinyBubbles said on July 1, 2006 20:38:
Mwhahahahahahahahahahaaha.
Sorry to England hey. tsk tsk tsk.
Aaaaah i’m gonna be soooooo hungover tomorrow :S But i dont care. I had such a good nite.. only..... .GOSH its not that much fun to drink alone!!! I need a drinking buddy!!!!!!!
I think France might beat Brazil tonight.. sheessh...
LittleSpooky said on July 2, 2006 05:14:
Dunno how much trouble I’ll get into for this, but:
Tibs, this is for you babe!
;o)
Your Name In Russian
This is pretty cool... click the link below to try it out. Ignore all the Russian on the site, just type your name in the text box and click to see what your name looks like in Russian...very impressive!
http://www.callme.nm.ru/
PS - My sister in law sent this to me :oD
TinyBubbles said on July 3, 2006 11:47:
I dont know why i did that ally .. but i did ^o)
^^
Tara you are wicked :P:P:P:P
roxcyn said on July 23, 2006 09:17:
I think it is like your coke adiction. If you wake up and you start drinking beer. Or if you get drunk/drink time and time and time and time and time again for no reason there is a problem.
Santi said on July 23, 2006 09:21:
I think there is a problem even if you’re not permanently drunk. Many young (and not so young) people are “weekend drunks” and I think there’s a problem there as well.
ally77 said on July 24, 2006 07:47:
Rasberry Absolut is so nice and refreshing, one could get a taste for that!
nate said on July 26, 2006 01:09:
Hey TB, just viewing this thread for the first time.
Personally at this stage in my life I almost never have a drink - except on an occasional special holiday when we’re celebrating something, and then I limit myself to no more than one drink.
Over 10 years ago, I used to drink quite heavily especially on weekends; but, sometimes I would drink all alone when I was in depression. I always found that Absolut and Smirnov were very comforting - until next morning when I spent half the day with my head in the toilet bowl because of dehydration :). But there was one incident for me that was really the wake-up call. One weekend we were out partying, and again I found myself in a situation were I had way too much to drink, and I passed out early in the evening. My sister who was also at the same party was raped by someone that night after I had passed out. Since that day - a day I will never forget - I’ve never had the desire to drink. I’ve always felt that I could have prevented my sister from getting hurt.
I’ve seen alcohol control and destroy people.
TB I know I’m new here, and you don’t know me; but, I think very highly of you. You’re young and beautiful (seen the pics) and you’ve got so much potential. If you need help, please get help.
ally77 said on July 26, 2006 14:01:
I just opened a nice big bottle of Absolut..... yummy! Rasberri flavour....
I wonder if I can empty it by tonight....
Mix is with ASDA’s Lemonade with Rasberry and tons of ice, makes a great drink and you cannot taste the Vodka!
ally77 said on July 26, 2006 14:16:
Yummy.....
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d179/icemoose/misc/absolut01.jpg
Excuse the security tag still on there, I did pay for it honest I did..... Used one of those silly tills in ASDA self service check out so no way of clipping the tag off! lol
and do you what really annoys me when you buy drink now, it asks if your over 21!!!!!!!!!! WTF... Yes I am, but I thought you had to be 18 not 21 in the UK, it’s so bloody annoying that it!
ally77 said on July 26, 2006 17:19:
Boo Hoo my ice is melting it so bloody hot... that is not fair.... ice is suppose to be cold....
ally77 said on July 26, 2006 19:46:
I don’t think I will get to drink this whole bottle tonight... the room is spinning...
ally77 said on July 27, 2006 13:44:
Oh that was a nice evening, still plenty left.... think I’ll pass tonight though!
ally77 said on July 30, 2006 19:53:
It’s so nice... if you like Vodka you have to try that Rasberry one.... :)
Nah I don’t need AA just yet... not had one for 3 days!
.... mind you that’s only cause I am out of lemonade...
TinyBubbles said on August 7, 2006 07:09:
I guess my wakeup call came a few nights ago when a guy offered me drugs and i actually considered it. How sad must life be to think that taking drugs would actually make it a lil better. for a while atleast.
Alcohol.. the gateway drug. lol.
on the serious side.. Alcy has been banned in my house now. Went to speak to a counsellor. Cuz i was a bit concerned about the fact that i always feel like having a drink , even tho i’m hardly ever drinking or giving in to it much. But if it is there.. i’m gonna drink you see..
Apparently i fit the alcoholic profile perfectly. Its just weird, cuz i always thought of alcoholics as ppl who are constantly drunk and not able to lead a normal life and willing to sell their soul for a drink. Wich is not me at all.
But anyways. To be on safe side i will be a social drinker only now.. when i go out. wich is not that often. Wish i never started in the first place.
ally77 said on August 7, 2006 07:56:
Well I’ve not had a drink for two nights now.... I intend to give the vodka away in the freezer when I see a friend this week...
I even admitted last week to a therapist I am seeing that I felt I was becoming more dependent on it, and that a drink made me feel more better...
But since I started two new lots of medications this week I’ve decided it’s not worth the risk....
whateveriam said on August 7, 2006 20:48:
Sensible move. Alcohol has already destroyed a friendship I had with someone, I don’t want it to happen to anyone else, cos its just too painful. It wasn’t my drinking, but theirs-I got fed up of picking up the peices for them.
Majdy said on August 7, 2006 21:18:
Nate! sorry to hear about what happen to your sister. That was horrible :(
nate said on August 9, 2006 00:42:
Thanks Majdy, yes it was horrible.
TB, I’m so glad you have found someone you can speak to - that’s a good move in the right direction.
LittleSpooky said on August 9, 2006 06:07:
Tibs: Good for you. *looks into her empty inbox, turning it upside down and shaking it* Haven’t seen the e-mail barrage yet...
TinyBubbles said on August 20, 2006 14:45:
*wondering where my fellow alcoholic pal Ally is*
aww i’m only kidding ally.. but seriously i want my vodka back ok?!
I was doing realyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy good. Then came my bday. Damn vodka and passionfruit. Yum.
About that inbox of yours Spooky.. uhm.. thing is i didn’t send the email electronically.. opted for the pigeon-flying-over-the-atlantic-with-a-letter-tied-to-its-neck thing. Maybe the dove got lost in the bermuda triangle. Did you shake your box hard enough though???
i can always resend. Pigeons are dispensible mwhhahahahaha. And you can even choose the subject matter. Check one of the following boxes if you’d plz
[] pina colada as possible solution to middle east crisis
[] my snake dreams
[] my broken heart
[] my fear of sex
[] about to jump from a bridge
lol what is all this morbidness about?! i think i need my nukes again. Is morbidness even a word? dunno. Bottoms up!
This then ends our AA meeting for today. See you all again very soon.
whateveriam said on August 20, 2006 20:27:
Pina colada NOT solution to Middle Eastern crisis- Muslims don’t normally drink, against religion. I don’t think the Jews abstain, so they might drink it
Snake dreams -Wah? Maybe you need to see Snakes On A Plane, OR
http://www.dreamhawk.com
’SNAKE The sexual drive. The life energy in you that realises and releases some of its potential. Also a symbol of inner wisdom, or knowledge of life’s secret processes; and of healing, as used by the medical profession. The snake can shed its skin, and so symbolises self transcendence, rebirth. As the power of energy that lies behind all life, it can express in many ways. As attraction and repulsion, sensuality, sexuality, love, sympathy, emotion, thought, higher consciousness, but also the emotions we create that cause illness. This is the snake’s poison. ’
Broken heart- Having never experienced one yet, can’t help. Ditto fear of sex- last time I checked, wasn’t afraid of it.
And, finally FOR THE LOVE OF GOD DON’T DO IT! Suicide is never the answer to anything- I know, believe me. I understand the desire to cut yourself off from your problems, but running away from them is not going to solve them. Remember that you can get through this- you just have to reach out and get help. Going to AA is a fantastically positive first step, so well done. Ditto the counsellor.
TinyBubbles said on August 24, 2006 07:44:
lols muslims DO drink hahahahahaha. Yeah so they are not suppose to but who ever does what they are suppose to. I know for a fact a lot of muslims drink. Now if we can just get all of them to drink... *-) (kidding kidding kidding)
ahem *cough*
“alcohol never solved any problems, but then again - neither does milk!” :P
I like milk. With nesquick. You know nesquick? yum. Muslims aren’t allowed to drink that either. More nesquick for me. And just before anyone comes and flames me saying i’m anti muslim - the love of my life was one and one of my closest friends at the moment is muslim. so bleh. And he loves nesquick. Less nesquick for me :S
Am not gonna commit suicide. I’m fine :P I wanna have a baby. If i find out i can never have one or so. .then maybe i might kill myself, but till then no worries :P
and THIS thread is AA. i’m not going to real AA meetings. I dont need to. Yet :P
miss-misery said on August 26, 2006 18:08:
Hmmm, interesting topic. I guess that you’ve got a problem with alcohol when it’s not you who’s controlling alcohol, but it’s alcohol which is controlling you… I’ve read all your views, and all this reminds me of a funny alcoholic story which happened to me at one ball, celebrating the end of degree of one of my best friends.
I was there, with a nice dress, high-heeled shoes (painful!!) and dancing and partying in a very smart place. It seems that the three drinks I had that night went down badly and after making a table fall, I began to throw up on a friend’s suit (poor guy) and after that, I thought “ok, now I feel better, I want to sleep” and I laid down on the floor to sleep for a while.
My friend got very scared, it seems that he thought that I was in a coma or something like that. Suddenly, I was surrounded by lots of people looking at me, as I was taking a nap LOL. One of the bouncers there began to talk to me to wake me up. I can’t remember that, but one of my friends told me later. It seems that the guy told me something like “Hey, Angela, how are you? My name is Antonio” and I answered something like “Yeah, well, Antonio, leave me alone, I want to sleep!!” LOL.
The best part came when I noticed, half away half asleep, that someone was carrying me on a stretcher. I thought, “hmmm, nice” Until I opened my eyes and I realised that I was in an ambulance!! It seems that someone there thought that my little sleep was more than serious…
The guys in the ambulance were checking my blood pressure and things like that, and then I began to talk to them perfectly normal. It seems that they thought that I was ok, and they kicked me out. My friends had a hard time when finding a taxi to take me home, since in the first taxi we got in, I was about to throw up on the backseat, and the taxidriver kicked us out LOL. The hardest part came the morning after, when I had the biggest hangover ever in my life :s
The serious part of the story came when I realised that I had to cut down with alcohol. I was preparing competitive exams at the time, and I was quite stressed in weekdays studying. So at weekends it was like “yeah, let’s party and have fun”. This always involved a lot of alcohol. Unfortunately, alcohol is not very useful in order to confront stressful situations…
@Tiny Bubbles: I don’t know you and I don’t know about your problems, but from what I read, one of them seems to be a broken heart. I tell you by experience that alcohol doesn’t mend a broken heart. It just makes the pain much worse. So try to handle the situation without it, and you’ll see that the only solution for a problem like that is distance and time….
ally77 said on August 29, 2006 06:59:
I love Nesquick! especially the ready made on from the supermarket fridge!
TinyBubbles said on August 29, 2006 08:49:
*distance and time*
got it! thanks :)
Chocolate nesquick!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yayyyyyy. love it love it love it.
ally77 said on August 29, 2006 14:40:
Now that I have not tried, might have to though, I think I have a mini pak of those in the cupboard!
whateveriam said on August 29, 2006 14:53:
Its too nice for words, except the ones of Homer Simpson -’Ummm...fattening...’
joyrider said on August 29, 2006 16:09:
How much alcohol is too much? Well, I think Kjell Andersson had too much when he designed the cover artwork for ONE WISH ;)
whateveriam said on August 29, 2006 17:07:
I’m certainly not going to drink tonight. I am WAY too angry a might do/say something I regret, though at the moment, I don’t think I will
miss-misery said on August 29, 2006 20:36:
@Joyrider: LOL
@TinyBubbles: you’re welcome!
About Nesquick: chocolate flavour is ok :)
miss-misery said on August 29, 2006 21:04:
Chocolate, obviously :) I think it’s the only one comercialised in Spain, so...
sommartiderhejhej said on August 29, 2006 22:15:
2 big glasses of rakia (80% alcohol) is definitely too much.
To say it with Roxette: ” It feels like being hit by a truck”
ally77 said on August 30, 2006 06:33:
We cannot get Banana Nesquick in my supermarket, not the ready made one anyway!
ncurran said on June 22, 2006 18:16:
edit. seems like others know more about your situation than i do/did