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my ex co worker recently hang in himself. I never closed with him, but the news shocked me because he was still young, and I always believe that all the problems can be solved. so, its kinda hard to heard news like that.
Few years ago, my other friend shot himself because his GF wanted to broke up with him. That was shocking me too because that guy was smart, had a good job, and handsome! he won many of modelling contest.
But I also know how it feels like to be desperate, or to feel so all alone. But thank god, I never dare to do such thing...
but anyway, hearing people doing that always make me sad, wheter is happen to people I knew or strangers.

Many years ago in the 90’s I think it was 1992 / 93 there was a boy who was 12 years old who use to get the same bus as me and a couple of friends.... sadly this boy was bullied by another group of boys, and we always tried to help him out. He would often talk about it and how he could not stand coming to school for fear he would get picked on. We eventully (myself and a friend) went to see his head of year and reported the bullies and explained what this boy was going through. She tried to do something, but the boy was too depressed and sadly he hung himself in his bedroom, he was just 13 years old when he took his own life, and a only child. I read in a paper about 6 years ago his mother also killed herself as she could never get over the death of her only son.

That was a sad day hearing that, and I hope those bullies that forced him to take his own life because of there cruelty live with it forever....

The bullies where suspended from school but returned months later....

There are many people in this world that think of Sucide as an escape route out of the life they have. Some do it due to being depressed, others because they are lonely. Look around and ask yourself how can you tell if the person near to you is feeling sucidal?

Remember it’s always worth asking someone if they are okay, esp if they are not there normal self... they might just appreciate it and take the opportunity to talk to you....

i had 2 school friends kill themselves a few years ago seperatly the last people you would of thought to have, both were very clever, top A levels but my sister was friends with one lads older sister and she used to tell me there father was a bully.
I myself was in similar situation a few years ago (still getting myself in order!), i think its hard to explain till you get there why your like that , think its a brake down in a support system for people, off top of my head. No family or friends to confide in or supportive or no one to understanding them or to be an objective ear or really listern i think bullying comes into it alot; whoever its off weather its verbal or physical, its sad really :-(
Just incase any insensitive and nasty people want to hurt anyone feelings in this topic lets try not to ey.

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“I´m still angry because I really wanted to die.”

Thats really sad actually, although i am sure that eventually you will feel differently. I went through a very hard time when i was a teenager, and at one point got very close to taking my own life, but i didnt go through with it. I am very grateful that i am still here, and really happy that i didnt go through with it. I wouldnt say my life is perfect, but i find that the older i get, the happier i become.

Luckily myself I have never felt that bad to kill myself. I understand why some people feel that there is no way out of certain situations, I used to work with someone who’s sister killed themself by driving off a cliff. I knew her quite well, and she seemed fine. Just goes to show you can never tell with some people what they are feeling like inside.

@ Pwbbounce... well said

its not like a broken arm or leg which is visible thats what iv always been told by doctors, and some people cant understand what they cant see. apparently it is rather common for gay people to have problems , and they are in a higher risk group for drug abuse aswell, im not saying ever gay person has problems like that or anything, just what iv been told, it all depends on famliy and friends, and accepting Society ect. like everything its a number of factors.
glad no nasty comments at mo ,call me a Sceptic lol

People never know what really goes on behind closed doors...

yep to true, can say that again ! !

i wonder how do you hang in yourself :)

gay people have a higher rate of sucicide attemptsd becuase we are social pariahs and from day one we’re usua;;y told homosexuality is wrong and immmoral and we are going to grow up to be child molesters. I tried to kill myself in college, i went to a very redneck driven college in pennsylvania and was on a student run event program. I tried to bring the aids quilt to my campus and the uproar was intense. i was sentr death threats assaulted in my dorm and other things, and i wasn’t even out as a homosexual. I don’t heterosexual peope would ever understand. As for the high drug use, thats a cultural thing that even alot of gay magazines promote and it makes me sick. It’s kinda disturbing there are so many disconnected gay peopel who think drugs are the only way they can enjoy things such as clubbing or sex, its another reason why society will never accept homosexuality. As for laman, it sounds like depression runs in your family and you should seek help, it turned out my family had a history of manic/ schizophrenic behaviour

’another reason why society will never accept homosexuality’ intersting choice of words to use but sad really !
iv been told alot of gay people take drugs to cope with society rejecting them.

My sister in law’s husband shot himself in the head five years ago, leaving behind a four year old daughter and a two year old son.
It’s really sad to think about those left behind by suicide, because my sister in law will never be the same, and my niece and nephew will grow up never knowing their father.

@ Coyboyusa, take a rope, put your neck in it, and jump from a tree (of course tying one end to the tree....) but of course we don’t treat you that bad at small talk, so don’t take drastic measures... lol

I have thought about it, but I have never tried it, I would never kill myself, now I know that. I think that there is always a way no matter how difficult things seem, there’s always a way.
About gay people, well, I think that Happiness is the most important thing in life, so if you are a man and you are happy with another man, or you are a woman and you are happy with another woman, what’s the problem? I think the biggest problem is people, always giving opinios about other people’s lifes instead of taking care of their own.

Well said Debora...

Debora i totally agreee with you , beautifully said :-D

I was on a psychiatric unit when I was a teen to deal with issues of abuse. My father was very abusive physically and emotionally. No, he never randomly popped me or my brother in the face or something like that. But he used the “Board of Education” which was a paddle about 18 - 24” long and about 1 - 2” thick. I knew when I got whacked with that one day and I didn’t feel the sting or cry, that I’d finally gotten “used” to the abuse.

The mental was a bit tougher. Nothing I ever did was good enough in my dad’s eyes. I could have gotten straight As in school and it still would have been wrong.

I was with kids who were in a similar circumstance as me. “DaySpring” was for the kids who’d been addicted to drugs / alcohol. One kid was kinda like “Mr. Popular”. That’s when I learned something:

He had always been an easy going type of kid. People just liked him and pretty soon he was popular AND very athletic (he was one that was naturally adept at some sports). There was a TON of pressure in his eyes because everyone “expected great things from him”. Eventually, he learned that it’s okay to screw up. His parents evenutally figured out that they didn’t need to stress him out by demanding stuff out of him like they had been.

What happened to him? I don’t know. I hope things improved for him as life went on.

As it stands now, I’ve contemplated that a lot lately myself. My only problem is: I care too damn much about others to hurt them needlessly. Even if it would solve all my problems for me.

Sometimes we have, we need thinking in ourselves, there’s nothing wrong with it.

LS: I’ve had a similar kinda relationship with my dad. But I got used to the fact of accepting things. I would accept the way things are going. If I am having a bad day, big deal. tomorrow might be better, right?
i like to play with the thought of death.
I wouldn’t play with death itself though, not my place

I also think that is the reason I am not so closed to my dad, and I don’t respect him because he use to “tell me off” when I was little by taking his belt to me, and hitting me hard.... It was a case of he was brought up that way, so he thought it was best for me....

As I got older I just retaliated and threaten I would report him...

Since I moved out of home 5 years ago, I think we respect each other a little more, but there are times when he annoys me and we can still argue at the slightest thing, part of me movng out was because I really didn’t want to be around him.

As for sucide, yeah I’ve thought of it, a lot this year part of me has been very close to ending it all because I am not ashamed to admit I suffer with depression. This year has been a bad one for me, what with experiencing the crap I have where I live, being diagnosed with two illnesses that will change my life but also understanding that one of those illnesses is why I have often acted the way I have since I was a teen, there is stuff now I can explain to myself which is a good thing.

Part of me less than 4 weeks ago thought to myself I don’t wanna go into 2006 living like this, but I am still thankful I am here....

@Ally77: I’m sure that a lot of people are thankful as well that you’re here.

A few years ago a good friend of mine jumped of a high building. He survived (but had many broken bones and almost didn’t make it). Nowadays, he doesn’t want to have any contact with me or other friends he used to have. Until now we haven’t got a clue why he did what he did, we just know it has something to do with his ’work and travel’year in Australia. Although I don’t know where he is, what he does (the last thing I heard that he now has his own small apartment in a big city) etc I’m happy he’s alive :-) Hopefully I’ll bump into him so I can ask him how he’s doing...

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Well, 2005 has just about broken me. There’s not much lower that I can go. If 2006 goes the way of 05, who knows.

spooks :(

I think that suicide is not good thing!
I think when People have problems ,they should Talk with an Psychologist or Preacher!

I used to get hit by bullies cuz when I was born I had Anoxia and those bullies at school thought that I’m disabled!But I am not Disabled ,I am very smart and when I have Problems like that,I go to My Uncle(Policeman with the Highest Rank)

Kathrin: You going to pay for me to go to a psychologist / psychiatrist? Because guess what? I’m so far in debt right now, just trying to survive that I’ll be lucky to see daylight before 2006.

And preachers? That shit is so over-rated it’s not funny. My mother’s married to one and most of the people they deal with NEED to be in a controlled environment and CLOSELY WATCHED on medication.

Besides, there’s no such animal in my religion.

Counselling is good.... I am trying that right now!

I give up. I’m tired of being screwed over.

I asked my mom to help me with the rent for October because I knew I wasn’t going to have it. She said they’d cover the rent for me. Well, the full amount never got paid. So guess what’s due tomorrow? I haven’t been able to find full time work, the temp work hasn’t been all that great in terms of pay and trying to cover all my bills has been a joy (sarcasm applied here).

So... I will probably be out of here by the end of the month. I called my mom up and cussed her out for leaving me twisting in the wind, and how much I REALLY appreciated that. So, she’s gonna try to sort it out while I keep bustin ass for jobs I probably won’t get. The reason I’m having so much trouble?

When I put down that I was terminated for UTA, I get asked why. I tell them what was in my termination papers. So... kiss the job goodbye.

I give up... it’s not worth it no more.

hey, Spooks... I really dont know what to say, but I hope that eveythings will turn out great to you...

bump @ Spooks. (! !)

Well, still have a home for now...

Still pounding the pavement for a job....

Still as low as a well digger’s ass in January...

You know since I went on Celexa three weeks ago I am doing so well.... I thuoght it was not working but it’s kicking in now and I am happy for once!

I don’t expect mircles but I am getting there...

Hugs to you Spooks!

Ally: I suffer from that fatal Hawai’ian disease: Lakamoney.

Can’t even afford meds. The thing that sux about bein fired from the job I was doing, in the first 5 months, I made TOO MUCH MONEY to qualify for assistance.

that’s crap for you... I guess as much as some complain on the health service as least we can get meds for £6.50 (or something like that....) that’s what I made for two months supply.... if I ever get my diabeties controlled with medication then all perscriptons are free!

Spooky... are you ok? Alive? How are you?
All the best
TPH.

Am I okay? No
Am I alive? I think that if having a pulse, walking, eating, breathing and what not determines that, then yes. If there are other parametres, then no.

I’m in the process of moving...which has been delayed. My space heater decided to take a dump so it’s cold in my room. I don’t know what the hell happened, but my mom decided that she had to attend TWO funerals today... none of them friends / family... but to “support” people. I got hung out to dry because of it. I’d set up with a friend of mine to have her help me tow my “baby” up to a place I can store it (free) and then had to call her and tell her never mind... I can’t do it today and why. Got my truck fixed yesterday but don’t have the necessary items to do the tow myself.

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You can do it Ally!

Good on you Ally! I’m guessing it would feel alot better now that you’re able to put a name to what you’ve got. Great to see you’re doing well, and without drugs.
Best of luck on your return to work!

I have a doubt. Does anorexia count as an “unconscious” attempt of suicide?

Thanks people...

Santi, I think it would.... seeing as your starving yourself which in time could only lead to death...

Wow Ally... it’s good to know that there are people who are fighters... I wish you all the best! *transmitting happy thoughts towards UK* :D

Cheers!

what a cheerful subject :) cheer up every body :) :) :) remember smile and the world smiles with you.

I am cheerful..... lol! :)

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