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Girls, are you afraid?

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Kazza said on January 28, 2005 02:53:

I agree with LittleSpooky.
On one hand, in most parts of the world one is free to dress how one chooses. That’s fine (although unfortunately we have to look at these women who think that showing off their midriff with their guts and rolls of fat hanging out is in fact attractive!)
On the other hand, there are so many creeps and perverts out there.
I’m afraid it really is asking for trouble if one dresses in such a provocative manner.

Kattunge said on :

I ´ve just read that a 15 years old girl was brutally raped yesterday by 2 men in Stockholm.

( Here is the link for those who speaks swedish
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,593154,00.html)

Those things happens all the time everywhere.

I wonder how many of us are affected by news like this.

Do you often stay at home when it´s dark even if you´d like to go out?
- ... don´t wear ” sexy” clothes when you are outside alone and it´s late ( Of course usually it´s no matter how the victim looks like.Children , old persons can be raped too....)
- you don´t dare jogging or running alone in forrests .....
-you always wear something you can use as a weapon...
And so on.....

What do you think?

purplemedusa said on :

Edit: Ooops horrible mistake that one!

Hey... they rape men too ya’know.... i need some COOKIES! *crunch-crunch*

Jud (moderator) said on :

I would cut that little thing they have between their legs to these “people” - for sure they wouldn’t do it again.

pumpkins said on :

these monstars should be locked away for ever. we don’t need them in our society. give them to the familys of there victims for one hour and then lock them away.

Kattunge said on :

“Hey... they rape men too ya’know.... i need some COOKIES! *crunch-crunch”

I know, of course.
But the most victims are female.

purplemedusa said on :

Judith that’s one way of doing it!! LOL... or society should start teachin their boys that women aren’t objects... that their opinions and emotions are just as valuable! Oh and add a little of respect for another!

Kattunge said on :

An other awful thing is that often the victim get blamed if she goes to the court for what she wore, when and where she was and so on.

If she was drunk , it was late and she wore “provocative ” clothes she has no chance.

If a drunk man with Armani jacket and Rolex watch got robbed then nobady asks him why he had expensive clothes and so on...
Nobody says that it was his fault......

Not so long ago 3 men raped a 13 years old drunk girl and they got only a few months in jail because she was drunk.
Awful.
A drunk person is still a person, not an object ...no matter that she can´t resist.....

Sad.....

eBay said on :

I have got a very close girlfriend. (I am a man) One evening we were just chilling out at my house and shortly after midnight she decided to get a cab home. I said, I would walk her to the mainstreet and wait until she got into a cab. She refused to let me go with her! We got into a big fight over it. When I asked her to send me a text message once she is home, to let me know she got home okay, she said, she wouldn’t do it, as she is old enough to look after herself.
there was a lot I had to learn. It was always so normal for me to walk a girl home, to a cab or whatever. But a lot of girls just really don’t like it... hmmm... oh well, I just had to learn that.

coyboyusa said on :

oddly enough judith rape is a crime of violence not sex, there was a case where a convited pedophile had his penis permanently dammaged when he was attacked by inamtes in the prison he was at when they found out he was a child molester. He was paroled after only serving 10 yrs. When he was out he somehow began babysitting young children and was caught violating them with his fingers, kitchen untensils and other objects. SO it has very little to do with the penis as it does the mental programming of the perosn. ANd rape and pedoiphilia they are fionding more and more is p[assed down eithe rgenetically or a combo of genetics and environmental ellemnts.

pumpkins said on :

oh please coyboy. i’m so tired of people trying to make excuses for the way people choose to behave. should we now be saying “poor child molesters, they can’t help it. they were born this way”? they know what they are doing.

Superbullie said on :

I think he does not try to make excuses. It’s just the way it is. The perversion is in their heads. The only thing that could possibly help is a psychotherapy.

Jud (moderator) said on :

rape might be related to violence, but I doubt that all these cases of rapes in the past months/years - increasing all the time - have to do with violence but sex. More and more you hear of cases when the guy and girl have met or seen in a pub and maybe exchanged some words and then the guy thinks he should get more out of that girl, instead of just waiting for the next time and go “oh well, maybe next time she comes to the pub we can have a drink”, he just goes after her and forces her. For sexual pleasure.

(Mind I am not blaming the girl -never!- she’s totally free to go to a pub, drink, have fun)

coyboyusa said on :

judith in that reagard u cant’t dismiss the action of the women in some of these cases. There are alot of empowered women out there that like to play games with men, or they know they are leading men on even bring them home and then say oh i’m not interested. I don’t condonne rape ever, but its never ever a one sided story, especially not date or estranged rape.

and pumpkin i never said rapists are born that way, buit if you actuallyt ever studied any real clinical reports about pedophilia its found that in nearly 90-% of child moklesters they were molested themselves as children, its and abusive emotional form of imprinting victimization on children to the point where they rationalize it as the only for of expression of love/sex and they in turn perpetrate it on others, it becomes so imnprinted that nothing ” cures” them.

Jud (moderator) said on :

well, if a girl first thinks she might want something with a guy and then changes her mind it is her choice and that must be respected. Anything else is forcing, rape. If the guy feels “betrayed” or an urge to relieve his organ, he surely has other means to do that. Anyway, I stand for what I said. For sure that way they wouldn’t do it again ;)

kachina008 said on :

all men want sex, and if with an attractive girl, well that is more so. I think the difference between rapists and normal men is that normal men can control their urges. rapists have power/control issues. I agree that rape is a violent crime first, then a sexual one; most rape victims also suffer other physical violence.

LaMan said on :

Why do women wear mini-skirts etc and then complain about raping? Some women really hates men.

Jud (moderator) said on :

aaaahh there we have it, so whenever you see a woman wearing a short skirt or in the beach with bikini.. you think “hm, she’s inviting me to f her” AND gives you the right to do so? What you say are ridiculous. I hope none of your female friends/relatives is raped, first of all for the whole trauma, but also because for sure can’t get help and comfort from you.

LittleSpooky said on :

Jude: I have to admit something. When I look at the “younger” generation of women here in the United States, the first thing that comes to mind: How many guys has she slept with? The girls here dress WORSE than prostitutes. 20 years ago, I would have said the same thing: “Just because they wear a mini-skirt doesn’t mean they’re asking to be raped.”

Looking at the way they dress now, I can’t help but to wonder if, indeed, this is what they are looking for.

LittleSpooky said on :

Okay... now that I’ve given this topic a run for its money from one end to the other and thought long and hard about it, here we go:

1. Most child molesters / pedophiles have been abused as children in the same fashion, OR have seen it done to siblings.

2. Men / boys CAN be raped / molested. Anyone been paying attention to the crisis the Catholic Church is going through in the United States with several priests up on charges of molesation / rape? Most of the victims are men / boys.

3. Clothing (or in this case, lack thereof) does NOT give permission for a woman to be raped.

4. Not only do the boys of the next generation need to be taught that women are not objects, the women need to be taught that dressing like whores / sluts / prostitues is NOT ACCEPTABLE. Face it women (and men): YOU are encouraging this kind of behaviour in young men by allowing your daughters to dress in this fashion, and not teaching your boys that their behaviour IS UNACCEPTABLE.

It all comes down to piss poor parenting by the masses.

What happened to the good old days of:

You act up in public, you got your ass kicked in private? I turned out just fine thanks.

Kattunge said on :

And what do you think about the Tre kronor ( Swedish ice hockey ) scandal?

3 players had sex with a girl who accused them for rape.
The girl was drunk and followed them to a hotelroom. The met in a bar in the middle of the night.

The guys said she wanted to have sex with them that´s why she went to a hotel with them.
The girl said they raped her.
The guys are aquitted, but they have to leave the the team at least for the season.

I feel sorry for the girl, but she couln´t believe that the guys will only talk or something...

What do you think about it?
“Everybody” in Sweden is talking about this case just now.

LaMan said on :

“The girl was drunk and followed them to a hotelroom.”

So what did she think she and 3 men she doesn´t even know are going to do in the hotel room?????

Talk about basket ball? Watching The Simpsons?
All she wanted to have was a good f**k dammit!!

LittleSpooky said on :

No kidding.

Crying “RAPE” is starting to become a way for a person (female OR male) to not have to accept responsibility for their actions.

You get drunk, you go back to someone’s hotel room, you’re gonna get banged this side of silly. End of story.

Kattunge said on :

I agree.

I feel sorry for the guys and their families.

There were witnesses that the girl wanted to follow the guys to the hotel and so on.
She says that she doesn´t remember anything but she is sure that she didn´t want to have sex with the guys.
And she didnt´t want to follow them anywhere.
But she has no memories about the night.

I can´t belive that an adult woman follows 3 men she never meet before to a hotelroom in the middle of the night if she doesn´t want to have sex with them.

In the morning she left, but went back for her mobile.
I don´t think a raped girl should go back to the rapists for a mobilephone.....

2 of them had to leave the team.
All 3 are very great icehockey players.

Here are some pix.
I don´t think they have problems to find girls....

( Goodlooking guys can be rapists too of course, but it´s obvious that they didn´t rape that girl.)

http://www.roglebk.nu/A/inter/Lilja.jpg
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/sport/story/0,2789,603545,00.html

http://www.nhlpa.com/Content/MEDIAFILES/2004/Huselius_Tuesday.jpg

http://www.hockeyautographexchange.com/players/tallinder.jpg

LittleSpooky said on :

They want room and board? C’MON OVER!!! I’LL KEEP EM!!!

Dayum... I doubt seriously they would EVER have troubles finding a date. They’d have to beat the cows off with a (hockey) stick.

Kattunge said on :

:)

BTW.
They got already lot of great offers from hockey clubs outside Sweden.
The blond guys will maybe play in Switzerland.

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