The best song ever done?
dcantera said on April 7, 2003 22:03:
I think is “It must have been love”
powerpoplarry said on April 8, 2003 05:04:
Per solo: DYWTBMB
Roxette: June Afternoon, SDLHA, or Jefferson
dcantera said on April 8, 2003 17:50:
Guau! How many songs! Maybe because of that Roxette is so big! I think they have more than 100 songs in an excellent level. That is very difficult to do. There´s no group can do that except the beatles. Most of the common people can´t see that.
dcantera said on April 9, 2003 00:39:
Most of the songs are from old albums: CBB, Joyride, Look Sharp
Do U think old albums are better?
powerpoplarry said on April 9, 2003 03:31:
Nope, Dcantera, in my opinion, Roxette got better over the years, with RS being their best album yet. Yes, all the older albums are amazing, but they are on a winning streak, and Per’s writing is getting more and more powerpop as time goes on, which is ONLY a good thing...
dcantera said on April 9, 2003 04:29:
@powerpoplarry: I‘m just asking...
but sorry, powerpoplarry, I think RS is one of the weakest albums.(Would you like to open a new topic?) I like only “The centre...”, “Bringing me down...” and “It takes you no time...”. It‘s logical: very difficult for an artist do the things better and better and better. I think “Look sharp”, “CBB” , “Joyride” , “Tourism” ... are so wonderfull. Per is the best, I love his songs! He has always a beautifull song in his head: “A thing about you” or “Nox” are examples
ROX-FAN said on April 9, 2003 07:19:
For me it’s :Spending my time, you don’t understand me,Breathe and lots of other songs
dcantera said on April 10, 2003 12:13:
@ s-czopek
sorry, my friend ,I respect your opinion. Definitely you are a Marie´s fan. I think “waiting for the rain” is one of the weakest songs. just take a look to Ballad hits or Pop hits. Does it appear?
Rich-UK said on April 11, 2003 15:11:
Crash! Boom! Bang! / Spending My Time / Beautiful Things / She Doesn’t Live Here Anymore
StillFar said on April 11, 2003 15:57:
@dcantera, no it doesn’t appear on TBH or TPH, cause it’s a bit too mature to fit in with all those...extremely radio friendly songs.
theedge said on April 11, 2003 16:13:
is very hard... roxette´s one is... so far away (tourism) and home by sheryl crow
s-czopek said on April 11, 2003 18:05:
@ StillFar
I couldn’t have said that better... This is precisely what I love about “Waiting For The Rain”, “Watercolours In The Rain”, “Crash! Boom! Bang!” : mature souding pop & quite a nice departure from the usual teen pop hits.
@ Dcantera
Could you explain to me how a song that was never released as a single could possibly be included in either “TPH” or “TBH”.. ? They can’t even include all the singles...!
dcantera said on April 11, 2003 20:45:
@ s-czopek and Stillfar
Dear friends: I know what you mean, but you don´t understand something: all those amazing pop & ballad pieces you don´t like very much made Roxette succesfull: songs like “the look” or “dressed for success” and almost all songs from TPH or TBH. It´s extremely more difficult for a songwritter to do songs like “the look” or “dangerous” than songs with deep meaning in the words but with poor music. It´s more complex to do catchy music than big words with poor music. That´s the reason because I love Per so much and his music.
@ s-czopek
Do U think the best Roxette´s song comes from Marie? Per is the songwritter
@ s-czopek and stillfar: thank you both. This is an interesting discussion
powerpoplarry said on April 12, 2003 08:03:
DCantera, we agree to disagree then because RS, in my opinion, is the closest thing to a perfect powerpop album that Roxette has ever recorded, aside from CBB, not counting TWATG which is better than ALL of Rox’s records. Per rules, and he understands REAL powerpop better than pretty much every artist out there today. It’s a unique songform, easy to understand, difficult to master, and Per is one of the few masters. On RS, you seem to only like the ones that are the furthest AWAY from powerpop. This is proof you don’t understand it or don’t like it, which is strange as that is Per’s forte, NOT ballads!! TCOTH is upbeat, yes, but really more like new-wave synthpop than real powerpop, and the other two you picked are ballads. True, difficult to improve in their songcraft, but Per is accelerating at a delightful speed. ON is more proof. Can’t WAIT for the next solo album, possible GT album, and next ROX album!! I hope it’s dominated by ON-like powerpop, and Per sings all the songs. True, the older albums are great, but RS surpasses them all, in my opinion, except for maybe CBB. ON might be his best song written yet, just a perfect powerpop gem of a song. I know Per is on a constant mission to write the next powerpop jewel, he always has, and great songwriters never stop reaching for the prize. ATAY was great too, kinda like an Aimee Mann song.
s-czopek said on April 12, 2003 12:58:
Yes I tend to prefer Marie’s songwriting but “C!B!B!” is classy.
I don’t think Marie’s “WCITR” or “WFTR” are deep lyrics with uninspired music. In fact, it’s nearly just the opposite.
Finally, I can admit that it’s “hard” to write songs like “The Look” or other catchy numbers. But seriously “Dressed For Success” ? A hard one to write ?? You take “Wild thing”’s guitar riff, add a slightly different melody and there you go...
hotblooder said on April 14, 2003 04:47:
Difficult question..... but i think...
Pearls : Soul deep
Looksharp! : LTYH
joyride : FLAF & HOTBLOODED
Tourism : Cinnamon Street
CBB : CBB, PYL & Fireworks
Greatest : June Afternoon
HAND : ITALLT & PTP
RS : TCOTH & ITYNTTGH
TBH : ATAY
TPH : ON & MLTY
dcantera said on April 14, 2003 12:36:
@Powerpoplarry.
I see your point. I can realize you‘re closer to classic powerpop from GT or TWATG. I like many songs in there: ” D U wanna be my baby? ” or “Stupid”, I love them, or songs like “Ljudet av ett annat...” “Tuff tuff..”, perfect power pop. Honestly, I didn‘t like very much what I heard in RS because I didn‘t found strong powerpop songs: “Real sugar” , “Jefferson”, “Make my head ...” . I always turn off the player in the middle of the song. In my opinion, They‘re not as good as “Joyride”, or “the look”, or “dressed for success”.
I think you‘re wrong about the ballads. I think Per write ballads as well as pop tunes. But I think ballads are not you‘re style, you‘re powerpoplarry!
But I agree with ON . It‘s a master piece
dcantera said on April 14, 2003 12:50:
@ s-czopek
It‘s no so easy!!! “Dressed for success” is wonderfull, one of the best I heard.
It‘s very difficult for fans to get agree because there‘s marie‘s fans, per‘s fans, roxette‘s fans, GT‘s fans, etc. I respect your opinion, but I think that WCITR or WFTR match perfectly in a Marie‘s solo album
gessleism said on April 14, 2003 17:37:
so dificult to choose...
secrets that she keeps / from one heart to another / the look / listen to your heart / dressed for success / it must have been love / spending my time / the rain / crash!boom!bang! / sleeping in my car / it takes you no time / stars / looking for jane /a thing about you ... ETC, ETC...
Certainly, i also think RS was a great album.. one of the best ones.
powerpoplarry said on April 15, 2003 05:02:
Hey, Dcantera, cool at least we see on common ground and that you see where I am coming from. Yes, TWATG is possibly THE greatest powerpop album I have ever heard in my life, and actually, I have not heard any GT songs, but cuz it IS Per, I know GT’s tunes are probably genius, as SDLHA is basically GT of the 90s, and I love that song, tis killer!! When I first heard RS, I thought wow, it follows the same path that TWATG did, espesh the songs “Jefferson”, “Fool”, “Looking For Jane”, “Real Sugar”, “Make My Head Go Pop”, and all the songs aimed and hit the pleasure centers in my brain everytime. I find this is the case with RS more than the bigger hits, maybe I find them fresher?? And ON is a continuation down this path, it’s like “Real Sugar” meets DYWTBMB. Don’t get me wrong, the older songs are great, but I feel Per has evolved past that as a songwriter/powerpop tunesmith.
I agree with you about his ballads though, they are well-written too, kinda like an ABBA/Cardigans mixture, very Euro, classy and sophisticated, but yes, I prefer powerpop more, as per my name, LOL!! And maybe it’s a knee jerk reaction to the ballads being bigger hits than Per’s powerpop tunes, maybe that’s it, but Per is in the top echelon of tunesmiths these days, very VERY few have ever gotten close.
dcantera said on April 15, 2003 19:45:
@ Powerpoplarry
Yes, I agree. I think Per is the best pop/ballad composer in the history. I love him! Well, I recommend you very strongly to get some GT´s material. I not have all of them,because here, in Argentina is kind of difficult to get it, but there´s an excellent compilation called Hamstad´s parlor 95. You won´t be dissapointed. listen to it and write me your opinion !
powerpoplarry said on April 16, 2003 03:33:
Um, Dcantera, I would give you my opinion, but GT’s stuff is not available in the US, and practically all import stores don’t stock GT titles either!! The only solution I have is this one store, Record Runner, they might be able to order all of GT’s stuff, the box set, as they have Marie’s “Antligen” collection, and have lots of Rox stuff, out of print CD singles, etc.
sandrinep said on April 16, 2003 15:55:
ok guys, who’s singing? Who’s got a goddess voice?
ok, per gessle is the greatest song writer, but Roxette are per, writing songs, for Marie, singing them marvellously, that’s all!
How can you compare their songs??? “Watercolours in the rain”, is “watercolours in the rain”, and “the look” is “the look”!!! every song has his beauty!!
powerpoplarry said on April 17, 2003 05:07:
I actually prefer Per’s singing over Marie’s!! It comes down to the songwriting. I prefer the songwriter, aka Per, to sing his own songs, rather than someone else interpret them. Marie is a wonderful singer, but Per’s style is more to my liking. See, Rox is a combo of 2 things: Per performing his own songs and being a songwriter for others, aka Marie, all in the same group!!
rafael said on April 7, 2003 22:07:
never is a long time