roxnl said on December 6, 2002 14:12:

hi people, for got the adres of the roxwrite site on the net. can anybody tell me please? thx

Twilight-Ghost said on December 6, 2002 15:57:

Roxwrite addy:
http://members.tripod.com/Roxwriter/

gyllene_tjej said on December 9, 2002 11:07:

fiction, do you get the meaning of this word?

anna-marie said on December 9, 2002 14:06:

*LOL*
Than you should never read my fanfiction about Marie I wrote some days ago.
(don’t be angry, this are only fantasies)

annaG said on December 9, 2002 15:30:

I think they would look good together, but that’s not really the point, what’s wrong with people having fantasies and writing them down for other people to enjoy?!

And I just love the fanfictions written here!!!!!! :

http://fanfix.chantie.nl/

Jud (moderator) said on December 9, 2002 22:09:

I have read some of the stories, and well, I would say, Per surfs the net quite a lot, and I believe he has come across these stories, don’t you think it is up to HIM to decide if he wants them to be online or not?

I am sure he is clever enough as to find the email address of the site(s) owner(s) and mail them requesting to please remove those stories.. or ask the management to write on his behalf ;)

Till he does so, those who enjoy the stories, keep on reading, those who don’t, just don’t ;)

Majdy said on December 10, 2002 07:28:

if you don’t like it, don’t read it...

Brian said on December 10, 2002 11:16:

Roxiefox:
Sorry, I have to totally agree with Th_Th...
and he did not call anyone stupid. I think he made his point quite simple and easy to understand. I totally agree with him...
maybe most Rox Fans don’t understand his point, because like none of us ARE actually married, but he is. Cool!
Btw, how old are you Th_Th?

Jud (moderator) said on December 10, 2002 12:07:

sure I understand what you mean. One thing is that you don’t like them, disaprove them, ... and express your opinion here (as I did).

The other, here we go again, is that, for me, the point here is - since it is not any of us appearing in the stories, but Per and Marie - that it is Per and Marie who are the ones to decide if they want them there or not. It is not difficult to ask the management to contact the webmasters and ask them to please remove the stories. Is it?

They haven’t done it yet, so, I guess they don’t really care.

I don’t read the stories myself, I think I have just read 2 or 3 of them, and I agree with Per when he commented about the stories, when somebody asked him about it in Roxette.se: “I don’t think anything about them. It’s fine with me. Go ahead and write.” (so he has read them/ knows they exist).

Edit: Btw, you could maybe also go and express your thoughts at the Fanfix forum at runto.roxette.org :)

chantie_ said on December 10, 2002 13:45:

actually i am operating out of my leage. TDR is no-go area for chantie LOL. but i couldnt resist.

What is Fanfix?

Fanfix is a word I made up. I mean Fanfiction and Shipper stories. Fanfiction is, as the word already says: fiction written by fans, about their favourite artist. Shipper is short for relationship and those stories are about relationships that are fictional.

I discovered Fanfiction a while back on the internet. There was not so much to find about Roxette and therefore I decided to start writing myself. I think the group of people that like fanfiction is growing, as well as the group of people writing.

If you are totally against the idea of fanfiction, that’s your choice and you are free to think I am crazy or whatever. if you really feel an urge to let me know you see me as a sick loonatic, you can contact me to get your frustrations out.

Per Gessle’s opinion....

On Roxette’s official website, someone asked Per Gessle what he thought of fanfiction.... This was his answer:

” I don’t think anything about them. It’s fine with me. Go ahead and write.”

Disclamer

All the stories on this site are fictional. Names of existing and fictional people are used. Per Gessle, Marie Fredriksson and the other famous people that appear, have not read or approved these stories, they haven’t even taken notice of their existence. Of course I am well aware of the fact that the things I write will never happen in real life. Per and Marie are happily married and have wonderful children. I just enjoy writing stories and Roxette is my biggest passion!

WARNING

The stories you can find here have some explicit content! This means sex-scenes occur every now and then. So descretion is adviced while reading!

HAVE FUN READING

*FLAME AWAY*

anna-marie said on December 10, 2002 16:56:

First I have to say, I personaly don’t have anything against fanfix. (if someone here understood me wrong)
I really like to read this storys, some days ago I wrote my first about Marie.
@chantie: LOL!
You are really cool, thumps up! :-D (great interpretation) and yes, go on writing..! :-D

gyllene_tjej said on December 11, 2002 20:15:

@Th_Th: per reads Charles Bukowski, who is by far more pervert than us ;))))))))
I am waiting for some new stuff so keep writing!
And the choice is really free, DON’T read it if you don’t like it - just to repeat the old adage :)

harriej said on December 12, 2002 20:26:

@chantie:

Your stories are an example how nice parodies/fanfictions can be made.
Much, much better than the vengarox-site.
Keep up the good work.

-Gee- said on December 16, 2002 21:47:

<- is running pay-porn sites for 8 months now and has come to the result:

sex rulez. $-)

SisterDarkness said on December 17, 2002 03:29:

FanFics I do not see the harm honestly.

I am the one that wrote the story on Crazy About You (No!! I don’t have the ending I lost it after a computer crash! Thanks for all the support or lack their of lol!)

I am American. I started writing stories since I was 12. When I was about to start secondary school (high school) I discovered Roxette and according to friends and some mis informed media members, I thought that P and M were an item. So, when we had projects to do for literature, they often were the source of my inspiration. I mean Rox songs do have stories in them. Why not?

After I discovered the wonderful world of the Internet is when I found they had different spouses. I continue to write about P and M together because it is just something that is still with me from my childhood.

They are just stories, and writers and musicians alike have an unofficial creative “lisence” to write whatever we wish.

I got e-mailed once that I was going to cause the break up of P&M and their spouses. And as I replyed then, if that does happen, there was an underlying cause, not some stupid story on the Internet. If the stories really bothered someone, EMI would have stripped them from the ’net a long time ago.

Take care everyone.

gyllene_tjej said on December 17, 2002 22:35:

@nedved: I LUV your comment!!! Go on with your story, can hardly wait! :)

cgvazquez said on December 18, 2002 04:15:

i think that the fanfixs are a distractions and Marie has a bigger problem than a fanfix. I´m sure that she is not thinking about them right now.
Do you know what i mean?

lonely_girl said on December 18, 2002 06:39:

*yawn*

gyllene_tjej said on December 18, 2002 22:07:

@nate: haha, that would actually be quite thrilling ;) But I am afraid noone would ever bother to fantasize about our sexual lives, as sadly we are not famous :(

And besides, I don’t understand why you make such fuss. There is nothing offensive in the stories, no deviations etc, no vulgar language... To the contrary, many are so sensual and suggestive without using THE words if you know what i mean. I truly wish there were many things around dealing with sexual/love life in similar way.

LittleDevil said on December 19, 2002 12:44:

To those who don’t understand fanfix and have sexual problems the best present for future holidays is ’Emmanuelle’.
Enjoy and start to live normal real life!!!!

@Chantie & FF authors: Thanx for writing. I came here to support your work.

FF fan

Sarah-P said on December 19, 2002 13:22:

Fanfix rulez!!!!! :P

Twilight-Ghost said on December 22, 2002 17:21:

Come on people!!! Admit it, this debate is not really whether fanfiction is right or wrong but more of the question of the Roxette ’shipping.

It’s very obvious that people who disapprove of Per/Marie fanfictions are those who don’t fancy them together (or hates the thought of it) in the first place. Otherwise, they would enjoy fanfictions just as much as the next person.

I have been a great fan of fanfictions and ’shipper sites (X-Files, Buffy, etc.), and has been a regular poster on forums related to those.
Being that I have noticed something. People disapprove of the “shipper pairing” if they don’t like the other person. For example, if you really like Marie but dislike Per you wouldn’t dream of seeing them together would you?

This is what I’ve observed from one of the posters here.

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Th_Th: I don’t just look away, if I feel something is wrong, I RAISE MY VOICE against it!
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I’m going to take your advice on that one. But be prepared, my arguments are from the opposing view. When I read your comment about this I thought ’oh well someone who just don’t get it’ but then between my realisation of your weak argument and you calling someone ’stupid’ I thought I just have to say something.

To continue on with my argument, I guess it is only necessary to delve into the issues of whether fanfiction is right or wrong. Especially if the subjects are “real people”.

So, what’s my opinion of this???

DICTIONARY DEFINITION:
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fiction
(fik’shen)n.
1. An imaginative creation or pretense
2. A lie
3. a. A literary work such as a novel, whose content is produced by the imagination and is not necessarily based on fact.
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Now, why does Roxette(P/M) fanfictions bother you?
First of all there are many reasons why people might be disturbed by the Per/Marie fictions and they could be the following:

1. Could it be we want it to happen in real life??? Why else would we write it?
2. Th_Th’s argument that it cheapens a marriage.
3. Your fear that Per, Marie and their family might discover the ’shipper pages.

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Argument #1: Do we want it to happen in real life???
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First of all. A fiction is just that...... a FICTION!!! That’s all. It’s not true. Is it wrong to dream? I guess many of us here, write and read fanfictions because we know in real life it is never going to happen. Per and Marie are NEVER going to be a couple.
We DON’T want them cheating on their respected spouses in real life either. One of my greatest admiration for them is the fact that they can stay faithful to their spouses. How many celebrities are like that?
Not because we write about something, doesn’t always mean we want it to happen in real life.

For example, I just wrote a Spike/Drusilla (from Buffy) fiction and it involves them killing someone. It’s necessary as they are vampires. In case you haven’t been a fan of TV shows characters, most people who are into a “character couple” not only admire the chemistry of both characters but we also, in a way, kind of live vicariously through them. Which means in my case, I wish I was Drusilla and I have someone like Spike, and what ever happens to them as if it happened to me.

So, if I write something like Drusilla killing someone does that mean I want to do the same???
I wouldn’t do anything similar not even close. I would never murder anybody !!!

Do people who write murder mysteries intend to commit the crime in real life? No, I think not.

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Argument #2: Th_Th’s argument that it cheapens a marriage.
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Why does it cheapens a marriage? Are we in control of Per/Asa and Marie/Micke’s marriage in any way? There are only two people that are capable of cheapening (even destroying) a marriage, and those two are the ones who are involve within a marriage.
They are the only ones that are in control of cheating, lying, etc to each other. And that my friend is the very defintion of ’cheapening’. What other people say about them (gossip!!! - let alone fanfiction???) shouldn’t matter.

So, you’re worried about little Josefin, Oscar or Gabriel coming across such a page?

What about those children of actors who sees their mommy or daddy kissing someone else on TV or movies? Are you worried about them too? Are their marriage cheapened because of it?

Can you imagine little Ava asking her mommy Reese Witherspoon why she kissed Luke Wilson in ’Legally Blond’?

Although the scenario is not totally the same, but each situation has its downside. In Roxette fics, the characters are real but NO physical (kissing) contact, while in actors situation, the characters are fictional but with real physical contact. Either way, keep in mind, all that are happening/has happened in the name of FICTION!!!

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Argument #3: Your fear that Per, Marie and their family might discover the ’shipper pages.
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I guess the reaction of discovering such pages by Per, Marie and their family/friends would depend on what kind of person they really are. Some people will find if funny while some people (like some people here) will probably take it so seriously.

I mean, I’m not sure about Marie, but I could just imagine Per laughing it off. Per has a sense of humour.

I mean there are other Roxette pages out there that would probably upset them much more than fanfictions. For instance, those parody pages perhaps. I found some segments in those parody pages insulting and degrading to Roxette. However, I’m not just about to criticise the owner of those sites. I do believe that they are a Roxette fan themselves... they just have a funny way of showing it.
Also, may I add, even I found those parody pages funny, and because I do doesn’t make me less of a Roxette fan.
Bottom line is, it all boils down to what kind of person you really are.

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My response to some comments
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“Do you Guys even think Marie and Per would look good together? Sure they do as a Band, but as a couple??? Heck, I don’t think so at all!”
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@Th_Th: Would we consider it if we didn’t think they’d look good together? (kidding!). I don’t know in real life. But in fanfictions they sure do!!! =)

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My Final thoughts:
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First observe, how each Roxette ’shipper sites has what we call a ’disclaimer’. They put it there to clarify and make people understand that all stories are NOT REAL.

People just keep in mind. Roxette Fanfiction writers/readers are not there to offend anyone.
It is merely a creative expression of one’s imagination and fantasy, put to paper/pages for other people who feels the same way to enjoy it as well. In a way, it is a form of ’free speech’.

We are all a great fan of Per and Marie. Offending anybody especially Per, Marie and their family is the “last” thing we want to do.

@Th_Th:
Instead of criticising us. Go lecture those ’gossip columnist’ instead as they are commiting far worse crime than us.
Also, a calculated guess, based on your posts on various thread on this forum. I have this sneaky suspicions that you’re only a Marie fan.

@Chantie, Gyllene_tjej and other Rox’Fic writers:
Keep up the good work

@Nate: Honestly, I wouldn’t mind it.

~T.G =)

Nell said on December 26, 2002 02:55:

One more thing...to my R2R friends:
Guys, Nell is here to support your work!
Keep on writing!
Love you tonz guys!!!
Your little Nell