wendy said on June 17, 2002 15:36:

PG is defenitely not gay and me neither,so,not all rox-fans are gay ;) and i don’t have a problem with gay-people(for the one who missunderstood)my boss and my cousin are also gay and i really like them so....

StillFar said on June 17, 2002 16:03:

I think it’s more because of Marie that there’s a big gay fan base...although, the way PG represents himself...makes me wonder, too!

Jackeill said on June 17, 2002 17:53:

per looks awful these days..... i hate his look. my mother says he looks like gay :). i don’t have anything againts gays...... but i’m not gay and i think it’s disgusting...

per’s not gay, he only looks like that. i dunno why :((( he could go back with clothes and hair style to cbb-twatg style.

NancyBoy said on June 17, 2002 20:09:

As far as I know Per is married and has a son, so what are you talking about.........

kixboy said on June 17, 2002 20:30:

agree

daniel_alv said on June 18, 2002 00:00:

I’m not gay....

and if per or marie is it, that question could only be answered by themselves.... but I don’t think they are because both of them are married so.... and I don’t think that they should stay in heterosexuel relationships if they were gay....

Sascha said on June 18, 2002 08:23:

Don’t think that most guys here are gay. But the gays always talk about their sex on TDR. I always thought gays were more into disco than powerpop. I’m straight btw.

onlywhenidream said on June 18, 2002 10:26:

I don’t think that it really matters whether we are gay or not. The common bond between us all is Roxette.

I think that there are a lot more gay people in this world than what is thought I guess more like 20% as opposed to 10%, but on forums like TDR, people can be themselves and nopt have to worry about who or what they are.

frozen-rain said on June 18, 2002 11:25:

First of all: No one said that it matters, if Roxette have a lot of gay fans. But I think it must be possible that we can talk about this and about the possible reasons for that. If your not interessted in this topic, you shouldn’t replay to it instead of writing comments like “who is interessted in this?”

Roxette was always more a “girls-group” not so much than for example Take That or BSB, but they always had more female than male fans. Girl-bands like Take that only have a few male fans and most of them are gay - With Roxette it’s not so extrem, but it goes in the same direction.
Roxette have a lot of heterosexual female fans and a lot of gay male & female fans and they only have some heterosexual male fans. - It’s something that I recognized and like I said before it’s not bad or good, it’s just a fact.

What I think is funny, is that most (not all) of the heterosexual female fans admire Per, most of the lesbian fans admire Marie, but most of the gay male fans don’t admire Per, they also admire Marie (it’s the same with Madonna, Kylie,...)

Ferdan said on June 18, 2002 13:42:

well, i’ve seen a lot of people that’s marrie and with children..... and IS gay... it happened a lot of times.

and anyway..... GAY people is annoying, they’re nice persons... but the ones that act like women are really annoying... and sometimes childish... (at least the ones i met in a fan club) really often. In my whole life i went just 2 times to a fan club meeting... and well, I really regret..... almost everyone was gay there!! but that didn’t bother me, what bothered me was the way they act... most of them didn’t act naturally... I don’t know why most of them were that way... i can’t understand why some of them can’t act like a male “person who likes males” and not copying the worst thing of girls.... the loud chat...

Anyway.... I sometimes think gay people oppresses themselves. I mean... WHAT IF PER IS GAY OR NOT?, who cares if someone thing is Per is gay.... is that really important in music? or art, or whatever... If Per were gay, would that be BAD?.. some people here is acting like if that were bad. Freddie Mercury was well known as gay.... and is 100 times more respected than Per... like it or not.... ,it’s just a real world example.

Anyway.... i hope you get my point. otherwise i´m gonna be flammed or something..

StillFar said on June 18, 2002 15:54:

you’re walking on the street with your girlfriend, and (you’re not gay) you see two men, they’re gays. and they’re starting to kissing... yes, i saw something like that, and yes, it was disgusting for me. sorry :( ....

You’re walking with your girlfriend (maybe hand in hand). You see two people kissing, who most probably love each other the same way you feel for your girlfriend. You never met those two guys before, and chances are high you will never see them again. It’s disgusting for you....how intolerant can you be?

gyllene_tjej said on June 18, 2002 16:31:

I also think questioning Per’s sexuality is plain ridiculous ( besides we had such thread looong before)
I believe it does NOT really matter who you love, and I think YOU should decide yourself who you want to spend your life with, guy or girl... Sadly it, is still too much of this damn stupid social pressure: woman+man=right man+man/woman+woman=wrong
I also think jackeill’s attitude is kind of rude and immature... by saying disgusting you have just discriminated gays!!! where is your sense of tollerance? They have the same right to love and show feelings, just like straight people do!
And, btw, pink shirts, i think they rock! and yes i am straight, even if I stand up for gays here.

StillFar said on June 18, 2002 17:18:

Intolerance is a state your in…
Discrimination is an action you’re taking…

purplemedusa said on June 18, 2002 21:20:

okay, okay, okay...

so, how many more “gays” & not “normal” people has got to go through ruthless discrimination before the so-called norm could finally be broken down & de-toxified?

are we not past the era of post modernism, where all that was seen as normal had been de-naturalized? posing the question what is normal, and how far would one go to “other” people from yourself... and this othering aspect is very present in the writings above... words such as , “gays” & “normal people” (to mention only a few) are clear indicators of a mindset i thought was extinct...

...ferdan, you were spot on! Marriage does not necessarily buy you a one-way ticket to heterosexual bliss, instead its (often) a “back to Ricky Martin Village” ticket...

so how’s Per & Marie’s sexuality relevant to us? Is it only our way to relate/differ to them? (in this case it very relevant; it’s a vital entity to gender construction of an individual) Or do we have reasons to doubt the public image they portray? Which brings me to another point; can any of us say that he/she knows PG or MF? Are our ICONS or IDOLS not mere constructs of our imaginations combined with the Media’s view? Do we want to know the ins & outs (the most intimate details) of our ICONS? Is it fair on them?

Ferdan & Jackeill; ever considered that your behavior might seems repulsive to others? Don’t think for one second that your heterosexuality gives you right to be an moral advocate

i believe there is nothing wrong with playing musical chairs with your sexuality (and sexual expression), i believe in a equal say for all, i believe in dignity for all & i believe in Rock & Roll

BTW Jackeill, you might want to re-think your sexuality, Sweetie! It’s a known fact that gay men & their mothers are rather close... and judging by you premises for heterosexuality as the way God intended it to be, dear, that getting a bit tired now (try and be more creative when convincing me!)

thath enough from me now... love to all (yes even to you Jackeill & Ferdan)!

Jackeill said on June 19, 2002 07:28:

@purplemedusa : do you suggest that if i’m close with my mother i’d be gay ? heh, Sweetie, i still live with my parents, i’m 18, so if i want or not i know my parents’ opinions...

gyllene_tjej said on June 19, 2002 10:43:

*lol* jackeill is a he, I suppose :)

Jackeill said on June 19, 2002 10:47:

@gyllene_tjej: yes, i don’t care about vaxjoe :) maybe gays see girl in everyone ? :P

headphones said on June 19, 2002 19:52:

This wasn’t a forum for the Queens to come and defend their sexuality... (BTW queens was a joke)

All I wanted to know is who is GAY and who is STRAIGHT.... My interest was merely in the prevalence of homosexuals on TDR.

I agree with some of you that it is hard to tell if PG is gay or not... BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT I ASKED...

I asked if you thought he was... Come now, anyone can get married even I have been with girls before...That does not mean you can’t be gay.

sweet_stalker57 said on June 20, 2002 00:25:

YES YES YES!!! Men are meant for men!!!! :)

Women are meant for sweet stalker!!! ;)

Ronney said on June 23, 2002 17:22:

1. I hate caps-lock. People who use it underestimate it: it’s offensive!

2. The link between the gay-fans and Per being gay is just a weird thought. But it’s bullshit...
It’s a bit like Vaxjoe said: not only gay-people like to wear great clothes; we hetero’s like to look good as well and some of us are really into the fashionable stuff (but not into handbags, lol).

3. I think it’s great that there is room for a discussion like this. I like what has been said about intolerance. My opinion: if we all tolerate everything the world will become a terrible place to live. Sometimes it’s not good to tolerate everything, so nobody can say that people should be tolerant in general.
But respect is another thing. Everyone should respect everyone else. Especially when the other person is different, respect is a good attitude: it keeps a discussion possible. We don’t have to agree on everything, but we can learn a lot about a lot if we listen to eachothers opinions!

4. Do gay-people have to have respect for hetero’s who think gay-sex is bad, dirty or anything like that? I dunno. They could at least try to understand that it might be some sort of xenophobia: they think it is strange and revulting and that is why they reject it in general?

5. It is becoming philosofy now: I’d better quit.

;)

sleepingSingle said on June 23, 2002 20:57:

I just would to add that I´m gay too.

I think that my gayness causes my enthusiasm for Roxette...but that is a very thinking...

I have to say I like Per but I am not really attracted by him...I guess most of the gay guys here feel the same about him....

I don´t really care about Pers sexuality, but think about: Who would write the line “true love might come from behind” (M&T&H demo)???

vaxjoe said on June 24, 2002 13:10:

@freshold:thank u... i dont really want to talk bout politics and religion cause then we all gonna end up having fights hahaha :-)

but concerning this topic im happy to see that most ppl understand and are friendly towards us! bad old days are so over ;-)

vaxjoe said on June 24, 2002 17:52:

@perfanatic: first of all what berckley? do u think most of us live in the states? most of us live in europe which is more liberal than ur country...and noone b4 said anything about religion and homosexuality so u re out of subject and more over u certainly cant educate me since what u say is irrelavant with what has been previously written...as for the tolerance i ve been working in the night many years and that can certainly teach u how to have tolerance to every “special” person

cheers ;-)

Ronney said on June 24, 2002 22:18:

1. Homophobia does not always lead to an action. I thought PerFanatic explained quite well the difference between an opinion and behaviour?
Thoughts are free, but some acts can be forbidden, because they hurt people.

2. Why do people belief in a God Who gives His love unconditional to everybody? Did you never hear about the Ten Commandments? Do you have any idea why Jesus had to pay with His blood for the ones who believe in Him?
It looks like PurpleMedusa believes that God is only nice things and that Hell does not exist. In my opinion that is such a dumb way of believing. If you took the effort to read a bit in the Bible, you would find out that God wanted to whipe out the human race because people were all sinners!
And if you would like to read more: also read ABOUT the Bible: it’s not written by sexually frustrated, drunk monks in the dark ages!

3. Maybe I did not understand you exactly, but if I did: see above.

PerFanatic said on June 25, 2002 22:29:

Well, well, well… I expected to get flamed for my last post, but I had hoped that those flames would at least consist of some intelligent banter, not just name-calling. Well, nonetheless, I will attempt a response, even though it will probably be a bit beyond your realm of understanding.

@vaxjoe – Berkeley is one of the US’s most liberal colleges. It’s located close to San Francisco in the Bay Area in California (big surprise, huh?). I am well aware that most people in this forum are from Europe, not the US, but I thought that Berkeley was well known around the world… my bad. Yes, Europe as a whole may be more liberal than the US as a whole, but trust me, we certainly have more than our share of ultra liberal areas in this country (San Francisco, Seattle, Hawaii, etc). So religion is “irrelevant” to the issue of homosexuality, huh? Man, what planet are you from? Like I said, with a few minor exceptions, most people’s opinions against the homosexual lifestyle are based on their religion. Everyone who is remotely religious or has read and understood the Bible understands this. Please, wake up and realize this fact. Spouting such nonsense just makes you look silly. Oh, can you please explain your “working in the night” reference? How does working in the night make you tolerant? (maybe that’s some gay lingo that I’m not quite familiar with?)

@Stillfar – why is that simply ridiculous? Pretty much everyone under the sun knows that (except you and vaxjoe, I guess). People use that as an argument because it’s true. Again, like your buddy vaxjoe, making statements that are factually incorrect just make you look stupid. Please refrain from insulting our President! He’s the best thing that’s happened to this country since our best ever President, Ronald Reagan. Please, keep you and your liberal nonsense well north of our borders! Oh, how can GW be responsible for “homophobia”? That’s yet another ridiculous comment. Oh, and by the way, do you actually know what homophobia is? It’s the fear of homosexual’s. I seriously doubt that there are many people in the world who are truly “afraid” of them, so please think a bit before you chose your terminology in the future. I am sorry for anyone who has to incur undue hardship, but do you think homosexuals are the only ones that experience hardship in their lives? Come on now, you can’t be serious. Many people have to overcome a lot more than others’ opinions of their sexual preference, and you don’t hear them whining about it , do you? Again, how many times do I have to say that I do NOT condone abuse of any kind towards anyone, homosexuals included. That’s the mistake that most people like you always make… the people that perpetrate violence against your kind are pieces of crap. They are most likely uneducated and therefore chose violence to express their opinions. This is sad but true, but those people make up a very small percentage of those that are against the gay lifestyle. So please, do not group everyone else with them. They are the exception, not the rule!

vaxjoe said on June 26, 2002 01:51:

perfanatic:u should be called just “fanatic” because your way of writing betrays your character...look i cant really be bothered to explain to such a shallow person -who believes in crap like “gay is a sin its in the bible lallallala”- and that his president is the best -that was the ultimate proof of how tragically blindly prejudiced u are...u cant really annoy me i just laugh and yawn to ur always “out of subject gone with the wind replies” and quite honestly i dont give a fuck bout u and ur rusty ideas...and from now on im just going to ignore your replies...
bye forever

ps:i throw right back at u your “stupid” remarks and please go get some class

StillFar said on June 26, 2002 15:04:

@PerFanatic

Experience hardship: I didn’t say that homosexuals are the only ones to experience hardship in their lives, but nice try to change what’s been said. Anyway, that’s not the point. Point is they shouldn’t suffer at all. If we would all be a bit more conscious of what we say and who the person next to us is.

Bush: I believe that he’s one of the best thing your country ever had, for others he’s the best terrorist since... but let’s got to the facts. Here are some ridiculous issues your president is supporting. Check the internet to find more…I couldn’t be bothered.

Military service? Bush supports the right to military service for all qualified people–as long as they don’t tell anyone they’re gay.
Marriage? A right every heterosexual in US America already has. But again, Bush thinks it should be out-of-bounds for gays.
What else is there? The right to privacy? Nuh-huh. Bush supports a gays-only sodomy law in his own state that criminalizes consensual sex in private between two homosexuals.

This is the guy who wants to bring the world freedom and democracy. Criminalize consensual sex in private between two homosexuals! Then there are people like you listening to that bulls*it and feel confirmed in their point of view.

About religion. Maybe I would accept this argument coming from Ferdan or tinytim, but PerFanatic, your country isn’t very religious. So many young people in your country are contra gay…and if you are honest, you know that these people aren’t church-goers and don’t know much about the bible so don’t come with that. And if you do, you should know that sex in every form has a productive purpose (according to the bible)…are you feeling guilty when making out with your gf for pleasure? Isn’t it a sin? Are you allowed to use a condom? Is she allowed the use the pill? Are you allowed to masturbate?

But now we come to the most interesting part. Female heterosexuals have less problems with homosexual males, than heterosexual males have with homosexual males. Furthermore, heterosexual females are more likely to experience a homosexual act than heterosexual males…to top that, one fantasy commonly shared and experienced by heterosexual males is to have a sexual encounter with two females. Which brings me back to homophobia… it’s a fear, an insecurity!

I have the right to walk on the street and kiss my boyfriend as much as you have it. You’re disgusted by it? For me that’s more a sign of a rather poor education than anything else.

Finally we are at the point, where in many countries homosexual couples receive the rights they deserve, are allowed to marry and in some countries are even allowed to adopt children. Finally some people realized that they’ve been wrong for many years….and you know what…one day this will include the USA…may take a while until US government understands HUMAN rights…but it will happen!

vaxjoe said on June 27, 2002 03:48:

@republicanfanatic:all i have for u is pity...carry on spreading your rusty ideas that noone cares for,carry on leading your boring life,carry on supporting your “middle ages” party....cant be bothered about u - u re too far away to get me down and thank god i dont have to deal with stuckups like u who think they are the cleverest most educated assholes ever!!! u keep on making me laugh like a caricatoure of a man that u are....
if it were in your hand u would shoot all gay and liberal ppl but guess what! IT ISNT! your times over! c u...NOT!

kachina008 said on June 27, 2002 10:24:

I dont follow with much interest the politics of Bush or any other country, but I am amazed to read stillfar’s response on Bush’s policies on gay people. I will defly check this out for myself, but isnt it funny how people do not realize that homosexuality is here to stay? No amount of rules, policies or threat of persecution will make it disappear.

Another point: Hasnt homosexuality existed throughout history? Didnt the greek soldiers often have boys to fulfil their desires? Didnt the japanese have places where they could have sex with boys masquerading as women? (if I am wrong on this point, please let me know, but I did read this someplace.)

If I am correct, most homosexual people in the world do not seek to threaten the world order. all they want to do is to live life, work and come home to a loving partner. Isnt that what all of us want? i think the basis of homophobia, especially for men, is that if they meet a gay guy, lets say in a pub setting, is that this gay dude is going to proposition to them. and that threatens the straight guy’s sexuality, since he is the one who is sposed to be in control, and the dominant one. in a homosexual relationship, the lines of who is dominant and who is “submissive” is blurred a little (in a heterosexual relationship, the man is usually dominant). a straight guy propositioned by a gay one may feel like he is being driven into a submissive position and he doesnt like that at all. this is a personal observation of someone I know, who freely admitted that he is disgusted by and “scared of” homosexuals.

I think most people who are “homophobic” are of the wrong opinion that gay people would want to sleep with everyone of the same sex. gay people are not sex hungry, they are just ordinary people like us who want the things all of us want, a stable life style. if you think about it in this way, perhaps it might be easier to accept.

of course everyone is entitled to their opinions, and if you are disgusted by the sight of a guy kissing a guy, well that is your right. but if you go and tie up a poor helpless gay student and hit him until he dies, then you are a murderer. personally i believe that homosexuality is a state of mind, and is not a disease or something that can be cured. if i was gay i would be shit scared to “come out” since society thinks so evilly of homosexuals. but if i found a support group, then it will give me strength. u see what i mean? homosexuals are forced into segregation. just like every other instance of prejudice in the world since time immemorial. there was a time when being a christian was a punishable by death offence, when being black meant persecution, and being a woman meant you were not allowed jobs, or any sort of equal rights. As for religion and homosexuality, im sure i do not need to remind everyone of the crisis that the catholic church is going through.

freedom means you can do whatever you want, but dont encroach on another’s right to the same freedom. do what you want but harm no one, yes?

PerFanatic said on June 27, 2002 17:30:

Hey Kachina,

You make some good points, especially in your last paragraph. It’s what I’ve trying to convince some of these people of for days now. Just because you don’t agree with the gay lifestyle, or are “disgusted” by the thought of 2 guys together, does not make you a hateful bad person. Everyone IS entitled to their opinion, whether it’s based on religion or not. However, like you said, if you go out and beat the crap out of a gay person, then you should be severely punished.
The trouble is, people like vaxjoe, etc. don’t see any difference between people who are morally against the gay lifestyle and those few morons who go out and gay bash. They group them all together and that is an ignorant thing to do. I’ve never physically hurt anyone in my life... ever, and I don’t plan to unless it’s to protect myself or someone else. People, there is a HUGE difference here and that’s all I’ve been trying to get across. Unfortunately, some poeple in this forum just refuse to listen to other points of view.

Oh, and about GW... don’t believe word for word what was written bashing our President. Yes, his religious beliefs do look upon the gay lifestyle as sinful, but he has strongly supported the severe punishment of those who perpatrate violence against gays. And about marriage... from what I know, his stance there has been that a true “Marriage” is defined as a legal union between a man and a woman. That’s straight forward enough, don’t you think? If gays want to enter into a kind of commitment, that’s their perogative... just call it something else.

Stormkeeper said on June 27, 2002 18:20:

PerFanatic:
Marion of Alphaville is gay??? I had no idea. They has some great songs.

headphones said on June 27, 2002 20:02:

I think this forum went way past my original intensions. I have read through all the posted messages and some people have brought up some very sensitive issues and said some very radical things.

Lets remember that we all have one thing in common that we are Roxette fans. I think that should be proof enough that our sexuality is not who we are... You are not just a GAY or a STRAIGHT... You are not just a GUY or a GIRL... Everyone is a person with likes and dislikes, different personalities and talents.

We are not our sexual preference or our gender!!!

Lets all try to show some respect for others beliefs and sexual preferences...

I started this forum to find out how many members were gay and if you thought Per was gay or not... SIMPLE very SIMPLE....

Doesn’t look like people like to stick to the point... t least we all got our say... Hey!!!

:-)

PerFanatic said on June 27, 2002 20:30:

@ headphones - Yes, I agree! The problem here is that some people are way too sensitive, to the point of trying to change what other’s beliefs are.

Once again, if everyone were brainwashed to think the same way about everything, this would be a pretty damn boring (and pathetic) world.

Yes, whoever said that Christains (along with other groups) have been persicuted in the past is correct. Unfortunately, now Christains are again being chastised for their beliefs, just because they’re not in line with all of this “politically correct” crap!

purplemedusa said on June 27, 2002 21:17:

Perfanatic;
“The trouble is, people like vaxjoe, etc. don’t see any difference between people who are morally against the gay lifestyle and those few morons who go out and gay bash.”

Who mentioned anything about gay bashing? The big issue is that many heterosexual potatoes here, seems to be thinking its okay to use their “moral values” as an excuse to raise them as morally superior.

Yes, I have a problem with people/ religion using religious grounds to degrade the so-called homosexual lifestyle. Not only do I have a problem with this mindset, I am actively involved in changing such narrow perspectives.

At the same time I feel truly sorry for those who believe in a God that see the homosexual lifestyle as unnatural and as a “mortal sin”, or any other kind of Love. That god must be ignorant to love, then.

Ronney;
“…that God is only nice things and that Hell does not exist…”

Surely believing in a Goddess of unconditional love cannot be all that bad. Why would God be creating a Hell if he stood for unconditional Love? Does that not seem contradicting to you?

Religion & Politics & Sex(lots of it!) … this conversation is just getting better&better!

BTW… I wonder when they would expose GW as a pedophile? (Well, he’s gotto top Clinton. Figured he’d do it with little boys.)

Ronney said on June 27, 2002 22:59:

@purplemedusa:
you don’t seem to understand me.

I wrote that I did NOT believe in a God of unconditional love. So to me it is very logical that there is a place for people who want to be without Him. That place is what I call Hell.

It might feel great to believe in a Goddes of unconditional love. But since when do feelings proof you right? I say: if you wanna believe in God, try to get to know Him better and read the Bible. Don’t create a god-image that suits you. In that way you just believe in something that just exists inside your brain.
I’d rather believe in a God Who is real.
That’s all.

Ronney said on June 28, 2002 06:34:

quote 1:”I can’t believe this”
quote 2:”I guess that’s one of the reasons I chose to be an atheist”

kix727 said on June 28, 2002 08:38:

I’m not Gay, that’s for sure!

KiX

:]

kachina008 said on June 28, 2002 08:42:

btw: there are MANY religions in the world...

nice points artstgirl :)

carbon_boy said on June 28, 2002 12:05:

Strange.....”So when I am not sure about it, I should not judge anybody!”......Ronney, that is just the problem. God him/herself says that if you judge, you will be judged. You made it quite clear that if you knew more about the Bible and the Xtian religion then you would be able to judge.....but then again if you knew more about God then you wouldnt judge AT ALL!
We are not allowed to judge people who drink, murder, rape, steal, screw around or sleep with the same sex. If we even consider it we have broken 1 of the most important rules of the Xtian religion.

And another thing: God Himself says that if we have followed his ways - eventhough we are not of his religion (i.e didnt know of the Xtian religion), we will also be awarded everlasting life. Further more, the Bible states in Corinthians (somewhere) that God has sent Christ to die for our sins so that the murderers, thieves and even HOMOSEXUALS will be awarded with everlasting life.

But what this string has proven is that not even our fave band can unite us to live in peace with eachother’s differences. Homophobia and hate for gay people are well alive in RoxWorld. And to think, I always thought that at least on THIS forum 1 could be 1self. And let me just remind those of you who have said some nasty things about gay people that Marie Dimberg is a proud lesbian and that Marie was suppose to perform at a Gay& Lesbian Pride concert.

And no, why should we not have gay movements, or pride festivals, etc? Is it not the same thing as the black movements, or feminist movements, etc? And they’re not bad or evil. So why is it that gay movements are seen as an abomination?! Even by people who DONT believe in the christian religion! The reality is that people are scared of the unknown - thats why their attitudes change completely towards gay people when they make friends with them.

So, to all the hetero’s out there who discriminate against homosexuals: please read and follow the movie clip links on the string called: >HEADPHONES

headphones said on June 29, 2002 14:08:

At long last someone is talking some sense. The last two comments were the best I have seen since the discussion began.

As for Purplemedusa or whatever he calls himself, you obviously don’t read anyone’s comments properly. I understand that most of the people on this website can’t speak English properly but still try to understand what people have written before replying and in-turn, missing the mark.

I look forward to reading further... and BTW go check out those clips that Carbon_boy has been on about... they are very Educational...

purplemedusa said on July 3, 2002 22:20:

Headphones, please, you got to explain this hostility towards me. And while you are doing that, do point out how I misread the messages. Clearly there’s some sort of misunderstanding. If the matter is personal (and I’m sure it is) please email me at; [email protected] ...