Mans Zelmerlow
Invisible_man said on November 8, 2008 13:28:
I wish we had such great male pop singers here in US, instead of boring crap like Timberlake etc that we get here
I love his songs Cara Mia, and Brother oh Brother, very pleasant and powerful pop melodies, very Scandinavian :-)
Invisible_man said on November 8, 2008 17:26:
what is so cheesy about “Cara Mia”? Great pop song with strong melody. If that’s cheesey than so is 90% of Roxette songs.
“pink” or “mellow”?.... and what is Roxette? Hmm, Alternative Hard rock? lol
and RoomSevice... people who live in glass houses should not throw stones... no matter how cheesey this guy is, I doubt his cheese level is as high as “Make my head go pop” or “Real sugar” or a few other songs from Roxette repertoir.... I have no problem with that but you seem to have.
Room_service said on November 8, 2008 20:21:
Indeed, I think “Make My Head Go Pop” is one of the worst Roxette songs ever. Regarding “Real Sugar”, I do not agree. Marie has a great attitude in the chorus of that song. You won’t find anything like that on any Zelmerlow song. His way of singing is too much soft. If you like him, good for you. But don’t say he’s better than Timberlake, because you don’t have to be an expert to realise both make the same kind of music. I mean, aimed to 15-year-old girls.
“Cara mia” sounds like any other song from a band that was crafted for marking money, like “Backstreet Boys”, “N’SYNC” and so many others that tortured us in the late 90’s. No way to compare it with the poignant “Spending My Time”, that’s what I call A BALLAD.
Invisible_man said on November 8, 2008 20:52:
no song of Timberlake has such a strong melody as Cara Mia. And Timberlake makes more of an Urban-R&B pop, and Cara Mia has no Urban R&B feel. So I do not understand you saying that they make the same kind of music. So they both look good and appeal to young girls, so what?
It would be like saying that Celine Dion and Britney Spears make the same music and sound the same... and of course they don’t
and while I enjoyed some Backstreet Boys and N’Sync, I think songs like “Cara Mia” and “Brother oh Brother” are way better than anything from those boy bands
if I had to compare Mans to another artist I would compare him to Bosson (another Swedish pop singer, some of his songs I enjoyed as well).
Invisible_man said on November 8, 2008 21:01:
and to add to your other comment,
While I am not a 15 year old girl, but a 28 year old guy.....
But I’ve been a fan of Roxette since I was 11, so what? Should we than say that Roxette is aimed at 11year olds? Hmm?
by the way Cara Mia hit No 1 in Sweden, competing against many international artists. As it should have.
Room_service said on November 8, 2008 21:10:
If you like trash pop like “Cara mia”, go ahead. But don’t try to convince us that he’s superior to anybody else. Strong melody? I wonder where it is, it sounds like any other song you can find in a commercial radio these days. It was #1 in Sweden, that’s not such a great achievement for a local artist. If he had charted in the UK, Germany or the US, that would be a point. Don’t forget he comes from “Idol” (and all the hype around it). The same applies to Ola, Danny Saucedo, etc.
Besides that, I don’t think that most of the Roxette fans do like stuff like Zelmerlow’s. You’d get more feedback in the forum of Darin or A*Teens.
Invisible_man said on November 8, 2008 21:13:
amazon lists Aqua as related to Roxette, so what?
I am a Roxette fan, and I liked Zelmerlow, his songs are much closer to Roxette than Timberlake will ever be
and in US, I don’t hear anything as good as Cara Mia on commercial radio. Nothing on it even comes close
Invisible_man said on November 8, 2008 21:21:
Not a great achievement charting at No 1 in Sweden? Your crazy opinion is based on what?
Look at who he competed against, many US artists as well
http://www.swedishcharts.com/archiv.asp?todo=show&tag=19&monat=04&jahr=2...
I would say a pretty competitive environment,
Room_service said on November 8, 2008 21:28:
Now that you mention it, I have more respect for Aqua than any of these “Idol” products. In the beginning they struggled to get a label to sign with. And when they finally succeed with “Barbie Girl”, it was due to their own big effort and perseverance. They even wrote their own songs. The same happened to Marie and GT in the beginning, it was a long and winding road.
These “idols” don’t have to move a finger. They get the songs, the producer, the budget, the back up of a big label, the promotion... all served in a silver plate. It’s easy to have a #1 single this way.
Regarding the #1 thing, let me tell you that many local artists in my country get to the top spot here, and they also have to “compete” with the ’big names’ like Madonna, U2 and so many others. But it happens anyway.
Invisible_man said on November 8, 2008 21:32:
I like Aqua as well... on their first album they did have some songwriting help by the way, some even from Sweden (good old Tommy Ekman for example)
and I can kind of see your point about Idol contestants. But if I think it’s a pleasant song with a strong melody I don’t care where it comes from, it’s irrelevant
Cara Mia was written by Henrik Wikström/Fredrik Kempe, and they did a wonderful job with this schlager hit.
Room_service said on November 8, 2008 21:40:
Kempe and Ljunggren have composed a lot of trash music, like Charlotte Perrelli’s “Hero” that flopped big time in ESC 2008. It’s time for them to wake up and realise that this kind of music is totally out-of-date.
Invisible_man said on November 8, 2008 21:51:
good powerful melody is never out-of-date. That’s what makes Scandinavian pop appealing to me and many people around the world since the time of ABBA
Bobby Ljundren has been around for a while. I even own 2 albums by Erika (1990-1991) for which he wrote all songs (Erika was his project)
and Bobby’s song for Sanna Nielsen was outstanding pop-ballad
I liked Charlotte’s - Hero song as well, also Bobby’s song.
purplemedusa said on November 8, 2008 22:23:
Room_Service; you mean that the ESC is trendy...? That’s a laugh!
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Album of the week “Depeche Mode - Exciter”
Invisible_man said on November 8, 2008 22:33:
why is it not trendy?
why because they don’t play enough Americanized Hip-Hop and R&B, is that why?
Or because they don’t play enough depressing British synthpop from Depeche Mode or depressing Brit pop from Coldplay?
and what is “trendy” now? You know?
Room_service said on November 8, 2008 23:30:
I don’t know if it’s trendy or not. I couldn’t care less, indeed. I do not watch it to hear trendy music. The fact is old Swedish schlagers don’t stand a chance to win anymore. Måns, Charlotte... it all comes into the same bag.
Invisible_man said on November 8, 2008 23:53:
how is Mans or Perelli “old”, that’s new schlager. I think Abba can be considered old Swedish schlager, still very popular today.
Invisible_man said on November 10, 2008 23:23:
here are youtube links
Brother Oh Brother
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUv1BH5AImA
Cara Mia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jj6Xe-psl5Q
these 2 songs are the only ones that I loved, his other songs are just ok
Room_service said on November 10, 2008 23:45:
ABBA never made schlager music, they were more standard pop.
Invisible_man said on November 10, 2008 23:49:
sure ABBA made schlager
schlager is pop, it’s mainstream music with mass appeal
Invisible_man said on November 11, 2008 00:05:
I like those 2 songs very much, they are strong pop songs, with melodies as strong as anything from Roxette or Abba or whatever.....
But I think such acts as BWO and Charlotte Perelli are strong competition, so it’s ok if he did not qualify.... the point really is not winning but music entertainment
now that guy Dima Bilan from Russia whose song won last year, that song and vocals are much weaker than Cara Mia, but it won, so who cares
Room_service said on November 8, 2008 14:39:
Damn, he’s as bad or even worse than Timberlake! They play in the same league. I remember when he took part in the Melodifestivalen, I just couldn’t understand what was the fuzz about him and “Cara mia”. The song is absolutely chessy crap, only suitable for the ipod of hysterical teenagers. I am glad he didn’t win.
His music is too much mellow or “pink”, even for my own taste!