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Remember the praying chain for Marie
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mixella1 said on January 25, 2008 20:06:
Can we make another chain this time to pray for Roxette to start another world tour? The praying chain was on every site about Roxette, and on the mailing list from yahoo and others and it worked. Marie did get better. Come on, join the praying chain!!!
Hotblooded said on January 25, 2008 23:17:
I can think of far more important things to pray for... Like Marie staying healthy!
ket-ket said on January 26, 2008 07:25:
as we have been informed Marie feels better now,but would she make new projects or not depends just on her willing. i really wish to listen something new from her in English:) but recent topic was so hopeless I cannot think or mention anything like_new roxette;) so lets enjoying everything old, what we have collected during these golden years.
sandyam said on January 26, 2008 07:59:
Praying and hoping are in my opinion two different thing. For instance, you hope that they’ll do another worldtour one day but you pray that Marie will get/stay healthy. You don’t pray for materialistic things like a tour. At least I think that’s not what praying is about.
christian said on January 26, 2008 10:10:
the hope dies at last...
Die Hoffnung stirbt zuletzt...:-)
Cheers
Christian
CRIZ said on January 26, 2008 13:59:
I think Roxette has achieved everything that was possible in the music-world. Of course I would love to see them live again but.....I’m afraid that won’t happen anymore...at least no world-tour..
Welcome to reality.
But pray if you want if it helps you!
whateveriam said on January 26, 2008 20:02:
Up to you.
But at what point does praying for something superfluous and essentially a material object (which a tour is in all fairness) stop becoming a prayer and start becoming pure greed?
Sparvogamarie said on January 27, 2008 08:10:
I’m the one who started the prayer chain for Marie when she got ill. The original prayer chain was selfLESS - for Marie to get well and nothing more. This kind of prayer chain is selfISH - you want to go to a concert and have a good time for 90 minutes. I’m not religious but I agree with whateveriam that you don’t abuse prayer to get something superficial.
CoyRoy said on January 27, 2008 10:11:
There’s NOT a single one of you who can honostly say that you haven’t prayed for something materialistic in your entire life. Haven’t we all sent up a little prayer whishing for some money to buy something...or to get something special for X-mas... so don’t be too judgemental here. If there are people who want to pray for something like a world tour, then it’s their choice. God listens to all of us and will give us what we need. And if something as a concert of Roxette will give you the spiritual upliftment God thinks is good for you, then he will make sure Roxette does that.
I pray that Marie keeps healthy, alive and well. I even pray that she is well enough to make more music - Music is her life and her passion! And it would be a sin if she kept her God-given talent away from us who admire HIS work in her.
Thank God for someone like Marie and people like you fans who care enough to even pray for Marie to go on.
Jud (moderator) said on January 27, 2008 10:58:
mixella: you might be mixing it up with the petition for Marie to go on tour in 2000, or to finally convince her that we wanted to see HER and only HER, as there had been talks about a tour but she wasn’t sure.... (selfish or not, Marie seemed to have the time of her life musically speaking during the tour ;-))
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mixella1 said on January 27, 2008 11:41:
Hey, I’m trying to say that you should all think positive thoughts an maybe God will answer, praying or thinking it’s the same result in the end for this one. Selfish is if I wanted them to sing only for me, for my own delight but I want the hall world to enjoy their music, that is the reason why I started this topic, for us to join hands and think if not pray that Marie and Per will again sing and perform on stage. Positive thinking will take us farther and for a long time. Saying that it’s over and they will not make anything knew it;s not an option for me, I will strongly believe. So if we joined all of us like in that praying chain it will make a difference. If we just sit here and debate if i am selfish or not it will do no one any good. Act like one. If on this forum have been only positives thoughts I am sure that Per and Marie will reconsider making another album.If all of us could promote their music it will count. Think what can U do to make a difference and see them again? Just answer that! What you personally do?
Ms. Fredriksson said on January 27, 2008 12:09:
I don’t want to pray for a tour because it’s only their decision. We have no idea how Marie really feels and they shouldn’t resolve too much - that they know both, I think. I personally don’t believe in a tour, but of course it would be great.
whateveriam said on January 27, 2008 15:15:
@mixella1 - I don’t do anything to try and ’obtain’ a new tour. Why? Because it will probably NEVER happen, so therefore it’s a waste of effort. I’m with Ms. Fredriksson on this, it’s their decision, not ours. A new tour would be great, but I really don’t see it happening. Blind faith will only get you so far. If you want a new tour, start a PETITION, not a prayer chain.
What I suspect will happen is that there will periodical releases of greatest hit albums, with or without new material to accompany it. Per will carry on solo, and with SOAP, and maybe restart GT if the mood takes him. Marie will carry on her solo work and art if she so wishes. Both parties may decide to tour, maybe not. All the while, the contract Per and Marie have as Roxette will quietly run out and not be renewed. Their situation with EMI is basically just one for distribution, right?
Sparvogamarie said on January 28, 2008 04:55:
“There’s NOT a single one of you who can honostly say that you haven’t prayed for something materialistic in your entire life.”
That’s a pretty big claim, can you prove that? There’s difference between wishing for something, even saying a little prayer in your head, and starting an actual prayer chain. The original prayer chain was to save a woman’s life. Now to use it for personal entertainment is a bit cheap.
“If you want a new tour, start a PETITION, not a prayer chain.”
Agree with whateveriam 100%. Nothing wrong with wishing for a tour, but don’t abuse the prayer chain. Use it for something else, like for example for Marie to fully recover (her sight, physical strength, reading and writing, memory, coordination, the list goes on...) If she was fully recovered, maybe she would tour. It’s a small difference, but then you are praying for HER not for yourself to go to a concert. Prayer chains are not about God, they are about energy. They shouldn’t be used like a “petition to heaven” to get something you want.
frankie said on January 29, 2008 10:43:
i‘ve had my disagreements with sparvogamarie and not always agreed with her views but i‘m with her on this one.
the ‘true‘ fans of roxette won‘t try to pressure them into making a comeback to satisfy their selfish need - we are just glad that marie is still with us and wish her happiness in whatever she chooses to do with her life.
whateveriam said on January 29, 2008 17:39:
And for the record, mixella1, you may not be wishing for them to play for you and only for you, but what you are suggesting is still selfish. You are praying for something that is for your benefit, and not Per and Marie’s. Yes, if they tour they may make some money out of it, but that’s small comfort for the time spent on the road, the time and preperation of a tour, and the stress a tour causes. (If anyone says a tour is stress free, they’re liars!)
And frankie, Sparv, you’re right. If she’s happy living her life the way she is now, then I am.
CoyRoy said on January 29, 2008 17:55:
Sparvogamarie is right... to wish for something material, for own entertainment IS a very selfless deed... You all need to take a vacation and stop being so cruel to one another.
Some people just are more materialistic than others. We need to respect one another.
I still believe that someday Roxette will surprise us with something!
mixella1 said on January 29, 2008 21:27:
@wateveriam i see that you are very “optimistic” person, still didn’t answer my question, what do you do, beside judging me , to promote their music, or to help them?
if we talked about religion, but I am not, doesn’t God say not to judge anybody?
And it’s their job, carrier to make music and perform, and if they see a lots of fans praying (not religiously) for a comeback would make a difference. Call it a petition if it helps your mind and heart, but united we can make a difference. And there are still the barriers of language.My language has a different meaning the word “pray”, more humanly than a petition and not necessarily religious. I was trying to remind you that the praying chain had an impact because there were all the fans united. Here I don’t find unity, only judgment day.
I am still optimistic.
Please don’t forget why so many fan clubs has vanish? Maybe because of the lack of enthusiasm of the fans?
Where is a definition of what a fan means? Maybe you all are more fan than I am, so what?
Where is a Medal for it?
whateveriam said on January 29, 2008 22:20:
I listen, I buy, I discuss. Enough, or do you want more, huh? I don’t work in the music business, I can’t help them in any other way then basic support, right?
fridapeeples said on January 30, 2008 01:09:
this thread is hilarious!
maybe some fans should pray for the strength to make it through the day without the news of a new Roxette album.
or maybe god just prefers Take That to Roxette
who knows...
Jud (moderator) said on January 30, 2008 05:36:
I think we aren’t going to get anywhere.
Funny though all this morality and the good or the bad and bla bla. I am no religious at all (me!) but what was that about casting the first stone? :)
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ket-ket said on January 30, 2008 08:13:
I think Mixella is right,we need to be united,more friendly,who wants can pray or even give up everythings about roxette. I don’t think its right to judge eachother for just differences of opinions,as I see TDR is about to becoming as a struggle place and not rox site. I also wonder why some of fans are thinking that they having more rights to say whatever they like ,and laughing about other fans comments. maybe you are going to fight and die for roxette? i don’t think its ussefull. (sorry for my english if I could not express everything I wanted correctly) be more kind and humane,life is too short to fight for little and foolish things.
Sparvogamarie said on January 30, 2008 10:06:
I have no problem with Mixella, or even the idea of praying for something privately. I just don’t like to see the prayer chain used for something so material. Pray all you like, there’s nothing wrong with positive thoughts and wishes. And I don’t see any posts here that are judgemental, as far as I can see everyone here has been polite about saying they disagree with the use of a prayer chain for a tour. I don’t see any personal attacks on Mixella so let’s not get up on high horses and say we are wrong for having a problem with this.
Mixella I will be 100% behind you if you start a prayer chain for Marie’s health and recovery. I got involved here because I was told about this, and since the original prayer chain was mine I want to speak up and say don’t steal my idea for something so superficial. That prayer chain meant something to Marie and it would taint it if she found out we’re now praying for her to entertain us. I also don’t think we can compare the Äntligen tour to now...sure she had a great time but she was healthy back then!!! It’s a different Marie today and haven’t the last 5 years shown us she’s not interested in the fame anymore?
mixella1 said on January 30, 2008 12:42:
You said that I still something, this is wrong. I am saying try to have the same enthusiasm for something good and joyful not only when she was ill. It’s so wrong to enjoy? Are you sure that she can not perform anymore? I said if we joined hands and pray (ask-petition whatever) and she see the fans that want her to perform it will probably be decisive in her decisions. Good for you that you started the praying chain, I joined back then. But she said that she is healthy an maybe she can perform in a year or two. I don’t see any positive thoughts only Roxette is dead, they don’t perform. If she decides to make a tour in Sweden for example I am sure that you will jump for excitement, but somehow now you decided that she is not healthy, she can not do , she this and that. Can you pray only for health? You judge that praying for something joyful it’s superficial, Are you a priest?
This is another praying chain, you can join or not. Where it’s written that you cannot make an example of your praying chain?
Your praying chain it’s the only one that can exist? Other ppl are not allowed to use these words in a sentence? I was just trying to make an example out of it= that ppl are united when they want too and it can be done even for a “superficial” thing as a tour and not only when a person is ill.
whateveriam said on January 30, 2008 14:03:
That’s not what Sparvogamarie said. If you’d bothered to read her comments, she didn’t accuse you of stealing the idea.
Now, tell me - how will Marie going on tour help her? And I mean, just her, not you or any other fan, or even the fanbase as a collective. In your explanation, you may not use words like ’fans’, ’we’ or ’I’. So, explanations like ’She needs to know her fans love her’ or ’I need to see her’ or ’She needs to feel the love!’ even (because love of whom? The fans, duh!) will NOT cut the mustard m’dear. Oh yes, and financial gain is taken as a given, so don’t put that down.
If Marie wants to tour, paint, run a ostrich farm in the Caribbean, then it’s bloody well up to her! Not us, it will never be our decision to make. Contrary to popular belief, the Antligen tour did not happen because so many fans petitioned for it. Might have pushed it a bit, but the decision rested with the success of the album, the record company and of course Marie herself. That’s yet another apocryphal tale, up there with that fanboy in Minnesota or wherever the hell he came from helping get The Look to number 1 in the US. Sounds good, makes the artist look good, (probably) has some aspect of truth, but is in reality, about 90% bull, used to generate publicity and more sales.
In fact, they’re quite good at telling tall tales...wonder if that means anything?
frankie said on January 30, 2008 14:28:
‘run an ostrich farm in the caribbean‘ - sounds like fun, if you can catch the damn things without being kicked.
seriously though i think i can speak for a lot of people when i say that i would love to hear roxette again but, i‘m not stupid or selfish enough to demand they do something, just to make me feel good. marie has given us a lot over the years (with her solo career and with roxette) - can we really expect her to put her health at risk because we want to hear more music. it‘s now time for us all to give something back and support marie (and per) in whatever they choose to do in the future.
CoyRoy said on February 1, 2008 10:52:
GOD IS DEAD??!!
I was scared even re-typing that - I was wondering if the heavens will close up and consume me.
I know that there are a LOT of religions around the globe, and I’m not the worlds biggest saint, but PLEASE don’t mock God. You’re gonna regret it.
Whether you believe in Him or not, He is watching all of us, counting our sins, and boy, you’re gonna get burned!
Anyhow - since when has this become a site for religion? I thought we were talking about Roxette...
pwbbounce (moderator) said on February 1, 2008 11:17:
@ almeriakix. What was that comment for? Does it have anything to do with the topic??
Jud (moderator) said on February 1, 2008 18:54:
coyroy: just for your info, your comment (posted 3 times) was marked as spam.
you might want to know that for those of us who don’t believe in god, there is no “you are gonna regret it” or “he’s watching all of us”. He might be watching you, but I certainly don’t feel he’s watching me.
Your sentence is not making sense anyway “whether you believe in him or not” -> if one doesn’t believe in god, there is no fear about sins or getting burned.
And no, this site is not a religion site, that applies to you too ;)
I think this topic is close to beind closed.
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CoyRoy said on February 2, 2008 06:42:
Yes, Judith, of course you will be thinking that God is NOT watching you - you don’t believe in Him.
Spam?
“whether you believe in Him or not” MEANS that God is true and God is among us all, helping us all through each and every day.
Yes, please close this stupid topic!!!!!!
whateveriam said on February 2, 2008 12:09:
It doesn’t mean God’s true, it just means that you believe in God. Stop trying to force your religious beliefs on here...I had enough of that at church school! However, before you accuse me of slagging off your religious beliefs, I’m not. You are free to practise and exercise your religion, all fine and dandy to me.
Getting back to the original topic, I will reiterate what Sparv said - that prayer to help Marie is fine, but praying for her to tour with Rox isn’t. By all means, mixella1, start a petition to get a tour, or prayerchain for Marie’s health. Good luck.
Kathrin said on February 2, 2008 20:28:
According to what Marie and Per said on SWR1, Roxette still exists!
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whateveriam said on February 3, 2008 00:15:
*roll eyes* And that is relevant to the current discussion how? Seriously, didn’t anyone ever tell you that sometimes, ’silence is golden’? Y’know, the whole ’unless you have something relevant to add to the discussion, don’t say owt/anything’ thang? And also, didn’t someone warn you not to believe everything you read/hear in mass media? (SWR1’s a radio station, am I correct?)
The discussion wasn’t about whether Roxette exist or not. They do exist, seeing as Per and Marie are still alive, and still making music. Not together, but still, music is music. If they make music together, then cool. If not, then that’s fine too. If anyone wants to do anything to try and bring them back together musically (petition, persuasion, bribery...), good luck to them! Maybe the concept of using prayer to get them to tour wasn’t the best idea, but I suppose there’s worse things you could have done.
Yes, I may be a bitch, dear moderators, but this bitch has principles. Therefore, this one is signing off for the foreseeable future. TTFN imbeciles!
Perekopsky said on January 25, 2008 20:27:
No, I won’t. Because it’s not my business if Per or Marie or vise versa do not wish or do not will to do anything related with Roxette. It’s their band and they are to choose whether to record another album or to do another tour. Hope you understand what I wanted to say...