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New Gessle tour will be flop, states swedish tabloids
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abysmo said on June 19, 2007 12:43:
According to todays articles in both Aftonbladet and Expressen, new Gessle´s summer tour will be flop, because there´s only 23% sold tickets, 58.000 from 248.000. What do you think about it?
http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/noje/story/0,2789,1098671,00.html
http://www.gp.se/gp/jsp/Crosslink.jsp?d=286&a=353450
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tomos85 said on June 19, 2007 14:04:
Well, wasn’t Per who told us that for this tour he has sold more tickets than for Mazarinturne? :-D If yes, that means... or... everything that was written in this two articles is a pure bullsh*t.
Robbie said on June 19, 2007 14:27:
No, Per said that he THINKS that it’s gonna sold as much as the Mazarin Tour did. 58.000 Jeez, it’s less than I ever thought. All these ppl can fit in the Ullevi stadium... Any reason for a tour with 20 or so venues? Could be a decent question. As per Gessle’s standards, I would say no.
Mazarin sold almost 400.000 copies, EHM shall not sell more than 60.000. There’s is no way for more than that, ’cos his past 4 albums are with a very few exceptions THE SAME & THE SAME. People are getting tired and bored with this oldish, mostly Christoffer Lundquist’s influenced retro Aero... whatever Machine type of studio.
Roxryder said on June 19, 2007 15:12:
Sure that must be right. Only artists that ships 8X platinium of the album on the first week are considered to be successful 3X platinium does not indicates anything.
And in case this is true so be it, the people going to have so much fun will less just that.
It’s still early to talk the album is been out for only a week just wait.
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Krischan said on June 19, 2007 15:32:
@Robbie: Please speak only for yourself. I pretty much like EHM.
Breathe8 said on June 19, 2007 16:31:
I think the same, Robbie!! People are getting tired and bored. Now I don´t think the fans but non-fans who only want to see a good concert and they are not interested in the career of that artist much. In 2003 there was something new for people. They were curious what Per will be without Marie and now after 4 years people are tired...Now people want Roxette again.
daniel_alv said on June 19, 2007 16:33:
I don’t think that the swedish people want Roxette more then they want Per.
tevensso (moderator) said on June 19, 2007 16:38:
“People are getting tired and bored” yes, but only here at TDR. This is not the world, this is not Sweden, this is a piss in Mississippi. WWW is contrary to what many believe, not the real world. And like Daniel says, Swedes in general don’twant Roxette more than they want Per solo. Harsh but true.
Robbie said on June 19, 2007 18:17:
People canget bored only on TDR! I cannot agree and my points are the following:
1. First up, Per himself said not so long ago and was afraid that PEOPLE (which means: his fellow swedish citizens in the first place, I want to emphasize that) might get tired of Per Gessle one day. So Per as a swede was talking about other swedes in the real Swedish (not WWW as mentioned) World. That means, that not just TDR people can get bored. Am I right?
2. On the other hand, I think there is a huge CONFUSSION: being radio friendly (newspaper friendly, TV shows friendly) and being succesful.
Being radio friendly means that you are popular, but that doesn’t mean that you are succesful.
If they play your single every hour on the radio, that doesn’t mean that you have huge sales, you make big money and people like constantly what you are doing and they gonna rush for concert tickets.
But you can be still be popular cos Per Gessle has proved himself in 25 years of musical carrier and has evolved into a real swedish brand just like Volvo or Sony Ericsson.
But if there is no innovation and continous progress in your business you can still be a brand, but not as succesful as before or if it’s a longer term sort of a stagnation maybe not succesful at all.
People in general (and I hope Swedes as well :-))) are not fool, they can have and choose their choices and tastes, and not gonna buy the same product n and n times. As long as you are fanatic.
tevensso (moderator) said on June 19, 2007 18:17:
Good points,definitely. But I don’t think A: there’s a crisis and B: if there is, fine, more space for the ones who’s there. Per doesn’t seem bothered.
Rich-UK said on June 19, 2007 18:30:
Looking forward to a better view than at the back of Ullevi then :-)
After GT25, this story about low sales was as inevitable as another wonderful killer album by PG! If EHM sommarturné has sold 58,000 already then probably it will sell well over 100,000 by the time of the tour (not bad!). That’s an average of over 5,000 people per concert. Per will have a wonderful time and make some money. The audience will have a great time too. The only people who want to complain are journalists trying to make a drama and disillusioned Roxette fans. Who cares about that? I’m sure the tour will be a great success and great fun. Personally I don’t see that the figures of GT25 have any relevance at all. Bring on another awesome PG summer!
All the best, Rich ;-)
Robbie said on June 19, 2007 18:30:
@tevensso: But I don’t think A: there’s a crisis
You’re a fanatic. I am also a fanatic, but I am able to discern and judge things and I will never sink :-)
B: [...] Per doesn’t seem bothered.
We have already concluded on this one and agreed before in an other topic. Per can do whatever he wants and feels to.
tevensso (moderator) said on June 19, 2007 18:41:
Not really a fanatic, not the way it’s defined these days.
Sascha said on June 19, 2007 18:53:
“Swedes in general don’twant Roxette more than they want Per solo. Harsh but true.”
I’d say Swedes in general don’t want english music more than they want swedish music. Compare Mazarin/SOAP sales... The rest of the world wants Roxette 1000 times more than Per solo. And I’m talking about the real world here, not TDR. ;-)
daniel_alv said on June 19, 2007 19:38:
About what Swedes want I can say this. If anyone asks me what I listen to I say Gessle or Gyllene Tider, because if you say that you like Gyllene Tider people say: yeah, they are great. If you say that you like Roxette people look strange at you. In Sweden Gyllene Tider are very popular, but Roxette aren’t.
EDIT: (With people I mean people in my age, born in 84, and younger. They are little more popular in the older ages.)
sille-rox said on June 19, 2007 20:35:
Roxette is for me perfect—-Maries voice and Pers Songwriting!!!!!
miss-misery said on June 19, 2007 20:47:
I love it when people claim Roxette should get back just becuse Marie or Per’s solo works are not as sucessful/popular/comercial as they think they should.
Let’s face it: A big Rox come back is not very likely to happen, not only because of Marie’s former illness. I sometimes have the impression that both of them are very comfortable with their current solo carreers, for different reasons.
Nothing would make me happier than a brand new Roxette album, but if this doesn’t happen, my life wouldn’t change a bit. I’ve had their music since I was 11 years old, I’ve enjoyed their albums with a lot of intensity, and if they decided to call it quits, I would say “hats off for the both of you” without complaning or crying. They might deserve a rest from that huge thing that is the Roxette project, don’t you think?
If you don’t like Per’s album, don’t buy it. If you feel that Marie’s solo music is plain boring, don’t listen to it. But don’t use their supposed lack of success as an argument to claim that Roxette should come back.
Both of them deserve all of our respect, and this is something that I sometimes don’t see here.
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Zelda said on June 19, 2007 21:08:
I was right!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That´s really sad! Do you think he will cancel some shows?
What a big shit!
miss-misery said on June 19, 2007 21:32:
Why do you have to turn every single thing in a huge disaster???!!!
Tevensso, please, give some info to the poor girl before she has a heart attack :p
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Fredrika said on June 19, 2007 21:42:
Heeey everybody! cool down a bit. Someone wrote that EHM didn’t sell well.. 120.000 copies the very same day EHM was released is NOT bad! You know, that’s a lot of records, there’s a reason the platiniumborder is lower than erver before... About the tickets: Sure they may doesn’t sell like Mazarin and GT25, but, those tours where extreme. Nobody else in Sweden sells tickets like that! Everybody else has not more than about 4 000 visitors on each concert! And on the other hand I won’t belive in anything until I can get the “true fact” from Ticnet or someone I can trust. Expressen and Aftonbladet has been wrong soo many times before, I won’t trust them. As somone else said: Maybe they’re just trying to make a big deal out of nothing, as always..
Zelda said on June 19, 2007 21:45:
For me this is very sad. that´s the fact!
But from whom did expressen and aftonbladet got these informations?
tevensso (moderator) said on June 19, 2007 21:51:
From you probably? Per must be very pleased with fans like these.
tevensso (moderator) said on June 19, 2007 22:04:
Per says that this tour is the most sold out in Scandinavia this summer. Maybe he lies, maybe the newspapers do? I know who my money’s on.
http://www.enhandigman.se/blogg.php
Fredrika said on June 19, 2007 22:06:
Have no idea.. I just read Pers blogg.. he wrote: “...if they had made themself the little trouble calling one of the two tourproducers as they were directed to and ALWAYS is accessible on their cellphones, they could have written some more REAL info, as example: the EHM-tour is the best selling tour in all of Scandinavian this summer and thats very cool...” So, it’s not bad at all. It’s great! Isn’t it?!
Fredrika said on June 19, 2007 22:10:
Same here, I know on wich side of the line I’m putting my feet! =)
Zelda said on June 19, 2007 22:19:
I cannot sleep tonight. Could you please please please translate all he wrote? You can see this success in two sides. Does he mean somene else in scandinavia did´t sold more than 60,000 tickets at all? than it´s of course the most sold tour *lol* or he sold more than that? Who lies?
Jud (moderator) said on June 20, 2007 05:18:
:D numbers numbers numbers - who cares?
Think it the positive way, there will be more place for everybody in the shows, you won’t be squized and you won’t have to be there 5 hours earlier, maybe 4,5 instead, in order to be in first row ;) maybe this time you can even sit on the grass and enjoy the concerts like Swedes do, having a beer and some picnic ;D
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carbon_boy said on June 20, 2007 06:56:
I’m soooo with you on this Robbie. This sound is getting old now. And so is Christoffer. I have been against his influence from the begining with regards to Roxette and Gessle.
Bring back Ofwerman/Herrlin or Ofwerman/Illbert!!!!!!
Cheers cheers
mareo said on June 20, 2007 07:07:
Why do some people have to be so negative and complaining all the time... I just don’t understand. The album will sell well, the tour will sell well, but if they don’t... what does it matter. I love the album and Per seems to be quite pleased with what he has done. Of course Per cannot sell as much as Roxette and Gyllene Tider in their heydays, but which artist can do this for 27 years, having in mind that there surely aren’t more than 10 million people that know Swedish.
I just wish I could go to some of the concerts this year... I hope the ones that go will enjoy it... I’m sure theyu will.
RJ1976 said on June 20, 2007 11:56:
@Robbie... The daily Roxette is a cool site for “hardcore” fans - But I guess, we are not even a hundred, that comes here... But thats normal *G* ... 60.000 ? Robbie... It already has sold more than 3xplatinium (120.000ex) ...
I love the new album ... And as Per says... The tour is the biggest selling in Skandinavien this year *S* ...
Gachy said on June 20, 2007 12:19:
I’ve read that figure (120.000) is the copies that have been delivered to the stores, not the amount of copies being purchased by the final customers.I don’t think 120.000 individuals own the CD at this point.
I don’t care if it is selling well or not, it’s just a comment.
Robbie said on June 20, 2007 12:56:
@ RJ 1976: But I guess, we are not even a hundred
I can bet all my money on the fact that 500 to 700 people are making regular traffic on this site.
The only person who’s not surfing TDR is most likely Christoffer Lundquist :-)))
miss-misery said on June 20, 2007 14:32:
Maybe Robbie, but of those from 500 to 700 people, not everybody agrees with you, me for instance :)
I don’t see why you’re so sure that Lundquist is not checking TDR...
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Robbie said on June 20, 2007 15:56:
He has no phone connection in that middle of nowhere studio, so I am quite sure that he has no internet access as well.
I know around 20 people from Romania regular, but unregistered TDR readers.
Robbie said on June 20, 2007 16:32:
What I mean is: if he considers no use for a phone over there, he most probably sees no reason for an internet connection as well.
daniel_alv said on June 20, 2007 16:45:
Or he thinks he doesn’t need phones since he has mobilephones and internet.
I know a lot of people that doesn’t have a phone, because they have cellphones and internet.
mr jefferson said on June 20, 2007 18:27:
My God, you guys have problems! Who cares whether Skane is a remote signal free area or not?? C’mon... this kind of argument is really ridiculous!
mr jefferson said on June 20, 2007 20:11:
OK, that’s a good point ;-) Although there’s a loud and rainy thunderstorm outside my window at the moment...
tevensso (moderator) said on June 20, 2007 20:24:
There is Internet in the studio, either that or Per writes his mails somewhere else...
Oh and speaking of flops, this latest flop of Per’s opened at #1 on the album chart today.
fridapeeples said on June 20, 2007 22:51:
I find this thread really amusing to read. I agree completely with Judith’s opinion about enjoying the concert. When I attend shows I go to see the artist, not the other people who happen to show up. I live in Canada where the “general population” (I should know, I went out and surveyed them all yesterday) remembers Roxette only as an 80s band or someone they liked 15 years ago. Nobody has any idea that they released a new single this year and the names Marie Fredriksson or Per Gessle draw blank looks from all but a few. In my life (30 years so far) I have only met two (2) people in the flesh who share my passion for their music and are updated on they do now.
Who gives a toss about how many albums are sold and how many tickets etc and so forth. It’s not as if low sales are going to prevent Per from doing something he has done for years and years and years. ie: continue to write, record, play and breathe music.
If you like the new album, great. Does the rest of the world loving it make it a better experience for you? Go the the show, enjoy it.
If you don’t like the new album, put on an old one and enjoy it instead. Complaining about it ain’t gonna change anything folks.
:-) peace out
Kiwein1 said on June 21, 2007 05:39:
Maybe I should get some tickets for Jönköping...hm..Could be nice and relaxing there.
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crashroxer said on June 24, 2007 19:02:
Any news?? I really can’t believe that he sold ONLY 23 % of ticktets... sorry, no!
dubacik said on June 28, 2007 05:07:
I am one of them which also didn’t like Christoffer from the beginning. I would also like more Anders Herrlin but unfortunately we can’t do anything against it. But it doesn’t mean that I will not buy the album or go for the concert. On some way Per is not doing the tour for himself but for us - F A N S!!!! I heard through the internet his interview on MixMegapol and he said that actually the only good thing with the tour is to be on the stage! So, we should support him - doesn’t matter if we will be “only” 5000 people... Can’t wait anymore to be in Sweden again and enjoy the last concert in Stockholm. Everybody who is going to Stockholm - let’s make the concert unforgettable for all of us:-)
tevensso (moderator) said on July 5, 2007 17:15:
This latest flop of Per’s is #1 on the album chart for the third week in a row.
monrv said on July 5, 2007 20:45:
Well, let’s give Per’s new album some time folks. The thing might be that the tour is comming too soon for this album. Some albums hit the list overnight like Mazarine, others take time. Quality and talent is there but it needs to be uncovered.
However, Roxette comming back because Per is not achieving the success we all expect is utopia. Per is making records he enjoys and wants not records to sell copies: he’s got the money already, Now he concentrates in art.
I also agree that in Sweden Roxette is not as much appreciated as GT or Per or Marie solos and it is easy to understand why.
AURYTE said on July 9, 2007 22:36:
Well, the premiere concert is almost here :)
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rox-kuryliw said on June 19, 2007 13:03:
well its abit of a give away its going to be a flop, If compared to his prev tours ! he cant get more popular than breaking records.