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Sold out?
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Zelda said on June 9, 2007 15:23:
do you thing Per´s tour will be a success and at least sold out? I´ve heard his new material doesn´t works very well????
Zelda said on June 9, 2007 15:53:
tickets for the halmstad gig are still available. So it´s not sold out. i´ve heard it´s not the same hype as in 2003????
we will see!
tevensso (moderator) said on June 9, 2007 16:07:
Fact is that this tour has sold more tickets than the 2003 tour.
Zelda said on June 9, 2007 16:18:
What? I don´t believe in that! Hkak was a big hit in the begining. Don´t feel the same with En händig man. where did you get this information? The tickets in 2003 solds really fast.
Robbie said on June 9, 2007 16:19:
Honestly, we don’t know the real facts as yet. In my opionion the album and the tour won’t sell as well as before.
Jud (moderator) said on June 9, 2007 16:31:
the situation was different, tickets were on sale very close to the tour dates in 2003 so the “sold out” effect was faster. Anyway, who cares? as long as Per has fun and you have fun enjoying his shows??
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Zelda said on June 9, 2007 16:54:
Agree, Robbie. It looks a little slower to me. no extra gigs ? we will see. a big success would be soooo cool.
tevensso (moderator) said on June 9, 2007 18:02:
You seem set on pointing out Per’s “failures” and “flops,” why I don’t know.
Per said that this tour has sold more than the Mazarin tour did. If he lies, I can’t say. And quite honestly, you being in Germany, how can you “feel” how big a hit a Swedish song in Sweden is?
Zelda said on June 9, 2007 18:17:
As i said i don´t feel the gessle-hype for this time. but when i´m wrong it´s ok, sorry.You think his tour will be sold out?
tevensso (moderator) said on June 9, 2007 18:25:
No I don’t think this tour will be sold out either, but I do think it will be the biggest seller in Sweden this summer. I’m just happy I will be there.
Zelda said on June 9, 2007 18:30:
It should be sould out if we can believe in Per‘s words. I mean he said it´s better than in 2003. So it will be sold out.
ket-ket said on June 9, 2007 18:48:
i’m glad that Per sold such big quantity of tickets,than in 2003,
but thats very sad that i can’t join, i’m so far from sweden,
i’m just reradding some news about him :(
i even can’t have Pers new songs...
{keti from georgia}
Robbie said on June 9, 2007 19:03:
If my memory serves right, Per said that “Mazarin Tour” had an average of 9000 people / show and he thinks that “EHM Tour” will end up around these numbers as well.
That means that we don’t know the real facts as yet, whether if it’s a bigger seller or not.
What we can predict for sure is that: there is no way, by far I would say, that EHM will sell as much as the previous Gessle & related materials.
tevensso (moderator) said on June 9, 2007 19:22:
I disagree. The album is very nice and should sell more than enough.
Emil__BG said on June 9, 2007 19:29:
even if it’ won’t be “sold out” ,who cares??
Being one of the few here who have been on Mazarin and GT tours,i can say that in some aspects i enjoed Mazarin tour much,much more.
Robbie said on June 9, 2007 19:34:
The cover is very nice I agree, even though it’s the same Mazarin type of artwork, but the album is boring.
As per Gessle’s standards, the album will sell less than enough.
daniel_alv said on June 9, 2007 19:56:
I agree with Tevensso, I think the album will sell great. Specially since it’s been among the 10 most preordered albums on CDON for approx two months now.
It’s ads about it in a lot of places, and in the ICA commerical this week you can win 2 tickets if you buy the album, things like that makes him sell albums.
tevensso (moderator) said on June 9, 2007 20:00:
Ha ha, but you haven’t heard the album, how can you judge it boring? :)
Robbie said on June 10, 2007 05:29:
I heard and overheard the snippets from www.musicload.de at that time.
I agree, it’s not like listening to the whole album in its integrity, but I have an idea how it’s gonna sound like. Boring...
And from what I heard I can tell that I like “Dixy” the most.
purplemedusa said on June 10, 2007 06:50:
I have no intention to spoil the album for myself by listening to snippets and will instead take Thomas’ word for it - ” The album is very nice and should sell more than enough.”
It seems some of you are looking for arguments!
Gachy said on June 10, 2007 06:58:
Sometimes I have the impression that the Swedish public and the Roxette fans buy everything that is released under the name of “Per Gessle”, even if the music is not that good or even if it doesn’t suit everybody’s musical taste. I mean, if you are a Roxette fan you-have-to-buy-it, even if you are going to play it just once or twice. That’s why his albums sell so well. Just imagine the same album but being released by a newcomer: it would sell just a 10% or even less.
phoenixsamudra said on June 10, 2007 07:06:
I don’t believe what sort of rubbish I m reading here. Myself I m from Switzerland which is a bit smaller than sweden yet it would be unthinkable for a national band to play a tour in the same dimension as the gessle tour. Swiss artist hardly ever get to play the big venues. I think it s an incredible achievement from gessle to have such a high ranking tour. Besided I kind of understand when the media are trying to look for failure but when the fans do I can t understand that. I m looking forward to the album and I’m positive that I will like it.
Gachy said on June 10, 2007 07:38:
Sorry, but I haven’t heard about any international Swiss band/act that have been in the business for almost 30 years. Maybe that is the big difference here.
I am not looking for failure, but it happens sometimes I think Gessle and many other artists are being overrated. The fact he scored 4 #1’s in the US in the 90’s doesn’t mean the music he makes now is as good as those old hits. One thing is to be possitive, and another thing is to be blind by fandom.
Baby-C said on June 10, 2007 07:38:
Judith wrote: “the situation was different, tickets were on sale very close to the tour dates in 2003 so the “sold out” effect was faster.”
Yes, ofcourse that’s the reason.
And also, maybe he plays bigger arenas this time. Atleast that’s the case with Halmstad and propably some more places aswell. If he were to play at Brottet in Halmstad, as he did during Mazarin, then those 16.000 sold tickets would mean that the concert was indeed sold out and more than that. So, you have to think about facts like that aswell before going on about EHM tour not selling as many tickets as Mazarin.
Also in Göteborg, he were supposed to play at Trädgårdsföreningen with Mazarin, but moved to Slottsskogsvallen because of the high demand of tickets. Now this year, he went for Slottsskogsvallen to begin with. And that, ofcourse, means that the tickets don’t get sold out as fast, because he’s playing in a bigger arena.
And just one more thing. Other artists in Sweden that go on tour, are happy if they get 4-5000 people to every concert. And you are whining because Per’s concerts are not sold out yet, when he plays arenas that all take atleast... what? 10 - 12.000 people... all the way up to over 20.000? So c’mon! Get the facts before complaining... please.
Judith wrote: “Anyway, who cares? as long as Per has fun and you have fun enjoying his shows??”
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
tevensso (moderator) said on June 10, 2007 08:36:
I’ve mentioned this before: I think you have to be Swedish to really comprehend what the Swedish Gessle is all about. He’s not overrated or any those other things you mentioned. Per Gessle’s music is timeless, in Sweden. That’s why his albums sell so much. In Sweden. Those Swedes that buy his music don’t necessarily buy his Roxette stuff.
You have to remember that you people on this site are a small small minority in the world, one that listens to Swedish music, in Swedish, and quite frankly, you don’t have the ability to judge how great or not this music works, in Sweden. Are you game? :)
Robbie said on June 10, 2007 08:53:
@ purplemedusa: It seems some of you are looking for arguments!
What about looking for some kind of tolerance?
Robbie said on June 10, 2007 09:38:
Tevensso, but we are injected with this “swede serum” and we became addicted in 1991 (as for myself), so basically there is not much difference, musically speaking, between you as a Swede and me as a Romanian. A drug addicted is still a drug addicted wherever in the world he would hide :-)
Besides, we are consumers of the same product, Per Gessle.
As a long time consumer as well, I find it a bit strange, that for some of you all the albums are great, whether if it’s his latest 3 albums or whether it’s the Rox Box for example. I used to have a crush on Regular Coke, but right now I am over the moon with Vanilla Coke. Which is normal.
This will not last forever I think, unless Per is gonna change something. That is called magic, continous innovation in your music. The music should be still about Per Gessle and his world, but, musically speaking, in a different environment with different people. Like Madonna, Bon Jovi and other mainstream acts do.
And this is exclusively the consumer’s point of view.
If we accept (which is 100 % correct, but exclusively for Per’s point of view), that “Who cares, Per can do whatever he feels like”, we can all go to sleep after work and comment and judge on nothing.
purplemedusa said on June 10, 2007 09:56:
[i] Gachy said on June 10, 2007 08:58:
Sometimes I have the impression that the Swedish public and the Roxette fans buy everything that is released under the name of “Per Gessle”, even if the music is not that good or even if it doesn’t suit everybody’s musical taste.
Gachy said on June 10, 2007 09:38:
I am not looking for failure, but it happens sometimes I think Gessle and many other artists are being overrated. [/i]
- Gachy, I get the impression that you actually haven’t listened to Gessle albums - especially the later stuff! You comments smell of ignorance!
[i] tevensso (moderator) said on June 10, 2007 10:36:
I’ve mentioned this before: I think you have to be Swedish to really comprehend what the Swedish Gessle is all about. [/i]
- Tee, (U know this already) but I cannot disagree more; I’m by no means Swedish, yet I am 100% convinced that Gessle’s music is pure genious! A different language has never stopped me from enjoying music: I have numorous import records in my collection. I also know that I am not alone when it comes to enjoying various artists from around the world. What puzzles me is that it’s virtually impossible to find Gessle (or even a Swedish section) within the “World Music”section at the local CD shops! ... hence I’ll order the Swedish biography anyways, and sit with the Swedish
dictionary, as I, in fact, do believe that Gessle made a bigger impact that what he would like to believe himself! (But it’s most-likely all in my mind!)
[i] Robbie said on June 10, 2007 10:53:
@ purplemedusa: It seems some of you are looking for arguments!
What about looking for some kind of tolerance? [/i]
- Robbie, HIGH 5 for tolerance whilst debating!
tevensso (moderator) said on June 10, 2007 10:09:
Yes, but like I said, you are poisoned with Per’s music already. :) I don’t think for a moment that had Per not been famous in Roxette, none of you guys would look for and really like Per’s solo stuff. I may be wrong of course. I also think, like you do, that Per’s music is pure genius. Thumbs up. (And Vanilla Coke rules all. But unfortunately I was the only one in Sweden who drank it so it’s gooooone. :’( )
purplemedusa said on June 10, 2007 10:56:
Um, yeah I can’t deny the fact that I’ve been a fan of Gessle-penned tracks for the majority of my waking life, but sooner or later he would have made it outside Sweden... and just the mere fact that he IS famous, should atleast give him some shelf-space in the World section at a CapeTownian music bar! (Which is not the case!)
Lets see if SOAP II cause a rumble & stir amongst international music lovers - but I believe the man is incredably talented and should be given the needed credit!
Ew to Vanilly Coke, though! What happened to Cherry Coke?
tevensso (moderator) said on June 10, 2007 11:07:
Yes, and not to forget that SOAP I will get another boost (hopefully) this fall. We have Cherry here, off and on, mostly off though.
Gachy said on June 10, 2007 11:54:
Gachy, I get the impression that you actually haven’t listened to Gessle albums - especially the later stuff!
WRONG: I’ve listened to his later stuff, known as SOAP. And I found it 100% boring. That’s for me, and nobody can change that impression. I won’t comment on that supposed “ignorance” on my comments, because I am not here to be insulted nor to insult anybody else (even if you deserve it in return).
The fact that you liked his stuff doesn’t mean all the people has to share your point of view. Per Gessle is a trademark in Sweden, because of GT, Roxette, whatever. And people order his albums because his name is almost a guarantee of “good music”. But I don’t agree about that. I would never pre-order any album by any artist: I have to get proof it is music I’d like to listen to. And according to what I’ve heard from “En handig man”, I can say it’s not the kind of music I like. The 1st single let me totally cold. Then, I will skip this release. After all I am not Swedish, the magic spell doesn’t have to work on me every time, does it?
But the most important thing here is people should learn to respect the other’s opinions. That’s something quite scarce here, I don’t post much often for that very same reason.
daniel_alv said on June 10, 2007 12:24:
Accually Swedes doesn’t buy Per because of Roxette, because Per is so much more popular then Roxette are nowadays in Sweden.
purplemedusa said on June 10, 2007 12:52:
I must say I prefer the solo projects way more than Roxette.I do know that if Roxette does return at some stage, it will be a very different sound - both Per & Marie have grown significantly - and I predict loads of fan complaints!! It seems that a couple of people have actually missed the “concept” from the last few “concept albums”... and HENCE the comment Re: ignorance!
But, http://images-cache.cd-wow.com/images/2/1157359053_big.jpg
Robbie said on June 10, 2007 13:05:
@daniel_alv: Accually Swedes doesn’t buy Per because of Roxette, because Per is so much more popular then Roxette are nowadays in Sweden.
I think it’s much more Gyllene Tider than Roxette.
In a way, Swedes identify themselves much more with “Sommartider” (since there is such a respect and tradition for the beauty of summer up there) or Ga och Fiska (being a very fishing hobby type of people and by the way, the smorgasbord has a variety of fish dishes) or Kung Av Sand than with A Thing About You or Wish I Could Fly.
daniel_alv said on June 10, 2007 13:51:
I answered to someone who said that people buy Pers albums because they like Roxette. Maybe they buy it because that they like Gyllene Tider, but that’s a different issue.
James_Earp said on June 10, 2007 15:25:
I must say that I do not understand why we, the fans, look so hard for failiure. I am just glad that Per is working hard and giving us so many great records.
And I do not think thar EHM will fail. Today Per was on air in Rix FM for 3 hours and the EHM is one of the most played in Sweden right now. Här kommer alla....was the biggest hit in Sweden for years and to belive that anyone can top that with every singel is....crazy.
The tour will be great and I am looking forward to see Gessle in Göterborg and hopefully in Karlstad and Linköping.
phoenixsamudra said on June 10, 2007 18:08:
I always got the impression that the gessle solo career in sweden was mainly boosted by the fact that he used to b in Gyllene Tider. And that the people listening to roxette were different to the one listening to Gyllene tider or Gessle. But i might b wrong.
P.S. Regards a comment that has been made earlier there are plenty of swiss bands that have been around much longer than 30 years but am not suprised that no one has heared of them. This however does not change the fact that it is just amazing to what sort of masses gessle plays in front of and that this tobic is just dumb and insulting
Robbie said on June 10, 2007 18:49:
The only swiss musician which I am aware of is DJ Bobo.
In the 90s, he was very popular, very good dance - disco songs I have to admit, Love Is All Around (a hit in the States as well), Take Control, Keep on Dancing, Everybody, Let The Dream Come True, Freedom, Pray, just to name a few.
phoenixsamudra said on June 10, 2007 20:10:
well if i would have to pick a representative for swiss music internationally it would probably be ’Yello’
the big D. said on June 11, 2007 18:54:
Back to the SOAP success- here in germany there was almost no marketing according to the album (I haven’t mentioned anywhere). But I gave it to all my friends at christmas time- and what happened? “Hey,what’s that stuff? It’s amazing!!!”. So,actually, some outsiders of sweden,not knowing anything about roxette,became gessle fans...
purplemedusa said on June 11, 2007 19:23:
the big D. - your comment made me pour coffee over a tea bag, only to discover that my tea is indeed coffee/tea! Ew!
I got a couple of ppl hooked on that album and it didn’t take any effort!
tevensso (moderator) said on June 11, 2007 19:25:
But would the effect have been the same in Swedish? Probably not. :) SOAP is however a great album, as well as most other albums put out by Per & co.
daniel_alv said on June 9, 2007 15:33:
I think you are misinformed, En händig man are doing good, and the album will be doing a lot better I think.
Per also said that 16000 tickets are sold for the halmstad gig.