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Who thinks Per should take a year break?
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roxwho said on May 31, 2007 08:48:
Just because i am a fan of per and marie does not mean i have to like everything they do!! Im not trying to cause a argument here... but is anyone else dissapointed with the music per has been bringing out lately... its so boring.. where is the attitude that we had wit the look, sleeping in my car...
One wish?? cmon would a song like that made it onto the look sharp album?
where has the world accoring to gessle per gone??? Yea i know his not 30 anymore.. but surely there has to be some creativeness left in there? how many old songs is he gonna use for new albums!?
Kiwein1 said on May 31, 2007 10:17:
Unfortunately I really think he runs out of ideas lately and he himself stated that, so...why the hell did he decide to make another album? The snippets I heard from EHM didn’t convince me at all so I think a one-year-break wouldn’t be enough. Sorry for the hard words..
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rox-kuryliw said on May 31, 2007 10:42:
i think he does over kill himself alittle to much, but up to him really.
abysmo said on May 31, 2007 16:32:
Yes, One Wish is great song, typicall Roxette, compilation of everything that makes Roxette Roxette. Something like How Do You Do! 2006.
But yes, I also miss this old heavier powerpop sound, as Per call it. I miss this Roxette, The World According... sound. This new soft sound is not so bad, but 4 albums (Mazarin, Finn 5 fel, SOAP, EHM) with almost the same soft sound in one row is enough for me. It looks that there could be some great songs on En handig man (Pratar med min musli (hur det än verkar), Samma gamla vanliga visa), but I hope that “a heavier drum sound and a zillion overdubbed guitars sound” will come back sometimes. With Roxette or something like The Universe According To Gessle.
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ernes said on May 31, 2007 19:01:
I agree with Robbie, but, I must admit that, son of a plumber and mazarin are great albums, mazarin is on the same level as world according to, or even better.
One wish, well, better not to talk about that. Reveal, a beautiful song.
I dont think he should take a year off, for me Per is at a level that I really enjoy. Lets see what the new album brings, if it is as its written on the interview, its going to be a great album.
Go on!
Zelda said on May 31, 2007 19:11:
Yes you are right. His new music for EHM sounds really ” old ” to me. I would like to have a ROCK time. I really hope he will play his songs on tour with some more guitars. I mean we aren´t old people. The new Linkin Park song sounds so cool. I like this music. C´mon Per give us some guitars.
roxtexanet said on May 31, 2007 19:15:
Would “One Wish” be on “Look Sharp!”? Absolutely - “Shadow of a Doubt” and the much-ridiculed “View From a Hill” made the cut, why not “One Wish” (add me to the small group of people who love this song)? I think we tend to look back on the early days with rose-coloured glasses; it’s easy to forget about the “Physical Fascination”s and “Dance Away”s, which were maybe were okay when we were 13, but sound a little silly now... at least to me...
sandyam said on May 31, 2007 19:44:
What’s wrong with ’Dance Away’? I like that song. It may not be Roxette’s
best piece ever but ’One Wish’, in my opinion, is a 100 times worse.
Anyway, ’Physical Fascination’ was indeed a terrible song.
I truly hope that Per one day will compose songs like LTH, I could never..., Fading.. etc. I never give up hoping and until than I keep listening to those damn good oldies, haha!
Zelda said on May 31, 2007 20:07:
Let´s talk about the new material. Forget the old days! Now it´s EHM.
gyllene_tjej said on May 31, 2007 20:30:
watch out, you may gret your wishes fulfilled...
Isn’t it up to Per to decide what kind of music he feels like composing at the mo? And just read that: “I want to make beautiful, personal, delicate music showing as little muscle as possible.” When I read it my heart melts. I don’t want to spoil that feeling - i guess that’s the closest he can get to Demos - my most beloved Gessle record ever.
Robbie said on May 31, 2007 21:27:
Yes, it’s TOTALLY up to Per to decide what kind of music is being released. The same happened for example before with the content of the Rox Box.
But as a FAN, I can also express my feelings about his music and comment on it. At least until his music still means something to me. What’s the problem with that?
If Per wants to wear Prada, use the same cologne or make records with Christoffer up to the end of time it’s his sovereign choice!
He can do that even if nobody someday might show no interest in Per Gessle.
I might as well be hanging on a Bon Jovi forum someday :-)
roxtexanet said on June 1, 2007 06:50:
@gyllene_tjej: I LOVE the Demos album! Nothing like that CD to set the mood for a rainy, quiet Saturday afternoon... fantastic music, I think the last four songs are among the most beautiful songs Per has ever written. Thank God he salvaged them from the garbage bin for us!
the big D. said on June 1, 2007 07:03:
Hey guys and girls, cool down a bit! The RoxDays are almost gone, new material...someday maybe. I think it’s great that per CAN musically do what he WANTS to do. With albums like ’Joyride’ or ’C!B!B!’ he was under enormous pressure to create a “no.1”.
I’m sure: One day he’ll do another rocking powerpop music- because he WANTS to do it.
miss-misery said on June 1, 2007 15:54:
I love it when fans feel with enough authority to tell Per or Marie what to do...
I guess Gessle is not doing the same music he did in the late 80s or early 90s because of something called evolution. You might like that evolution or not, but I think that at this point of his carreer he feels free enough to make the music he wants.
Of course fans can express heir own opinion about it, but finding a thread saying that Per should take a year off is a bit too strong, in my humble opinion.
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Robbie said on June 1, 2007 16:11:
miss-misery: “A little sincerity is a dangerous thing, and a great deal of it is absolutely fatal” (Oscar Wilde)
“Our love must not be a thing of words and fine talk. It must be a thing of action and sincerity.”
Jesus, (1 John 3:18).
gyllene_tjej said on June 1, 2007 18:20:
What action do you refer to, Robbie, in your quote? Moaning around you don’t like this or that won’t count in my opinion. As somebody said before, just don’t buy or listen to the stuff you don’t like. ain’t that easy? Instead of asking the artist to take a break, do it yourself in your being a fan, and come back once you’ve found what you like.
Robbie said on June 1, 2007 20:11:
gyllene_tjej: “just don’t buy or listen to the stuff you don’t like. ain’t that easy?”
Maybe ain’t that easy for you to digest. Once more:
“Yes, it’s TOTALLY up to Per to decide what kind of music is being released. The same happened for example before with the content of the Rox Box.
But as a FAN, I can also express my feelings about his music and comment on it. At least until his music still means something to me. What’s the problem with that?
If Per wants to wear Prada, use the same cologne or make records with Christoffer up to the end of time it’s his sovereign choice!
He can do that even if nobody someday might show no interest in Per Gessle.
I might as well be hanging on a Bon Jovi forum someday :-) “
gyllene_tjej said on June 1, 2007 20:51:
What does it have to do with your original quoatation? What action do you refer to... what you do is NOT action, just waste of webspace, that’s what I meant. No need to throw insults about me not understanding your initial comment, which I did.
Debora said on June 1, 2007 20:55:
“Yes, it’s TOTALLY up to Per to decide what kind of music is being released...
But as a FAN, I can also express my feelings about his music and comment on it. At least until his music still means something to me. What’s the problem with that?”
I agree with you in these points.
Robbie said on June 2, 2007 05:39:
gyllene_tjej: ????
In my world, insult means: say or do hurtful or disrespectful things, remarks to someone.
Having and sharing different opinions or feelings and confronting comments or quotations are never associated with insults...
Maybe I was ironic [(or sarcastic, I dunno exactly :-) right now], but not insulting.
Lantartida said on June 2, 2007 13:21:
Perhaps Roxette is almost died ... but Gessle’s last albums (Mazarin, SOAP, EHM) sound marvelous. He’s got the taste and the team (Christoffer, Clarence, Jens, Helena) to make personal music. Why a “year break”? The only thing I’d really like is another English album (more SOAP, please!!!)
miss-misery said on June 2, 2007 16:24:
Fight!!! *goes to get some popcorn” :p
Robbie, to be honest, I didn’t understand very well what your quote has got to do with this conversation. Anyway...
Of course ppl have the right to express their opinion, I just don’t like when fans feel entitled to tell Per or Marie what music they should do. And no, I don’t think Gessle should take a year off, I think he’s recovered the inspiration that he lost with HAND and RS. It’s a more grown up kind of music, and I like it, maybe because I’ve grown up a little bit myself :p
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Roxrider_USA said on June 2, 2007 16:53:
As long as he has fun doing the albums and the songs on them are 90% like “I Like It Like That” , i would be super happy and fullfilled!
Take care!
Carlos E., New York
“Communication is key”
gyllene_tjej said on June 2, 2007 17:40:
@miss-misery: you took the words right from my mouth, thank you.
And no, we still got no explanation what this religious quotation has to do with the topic. If it refers to action as stated, there’s no action in here. But well, nevermind.
@Roxrider: yepp, I like it like that has got that special something inside. Do you like the BH demo of this song too? Very intimate and grown up. I adore it.
Roxrider_USA said on June 2, 2007 17:51:
Both versions are fantastic. The demo version is so sweet and adorable. The album version, is so powerful and intense and still beautiful. It’s clearly a Roxette song, as Per has told us sometime ago.
Take care!
Carlos E., New York
“Communication is key”
Robbie said on June 3, 2007 08:53:
gyllene_tjej: And no, we still got no explanation what this religious quotation has to do with the topic.
Misunderstood big time!
She (miss-misery) made a quote about sincerity by Oscar Wilde and I also made a quote (which I like) on the same issue, SINCERITY. What’s the problem with that????????????????
Some could quote Marylin Manson, Tony Blair or William Butler Yeats on the same issue as well. Is that a big “take action against it” thing?
I thought we can share comments, that’s why we have these forums for.
On the other hand, I said that Christoffer should take a year off, NOT Per.
gyllene_tjej said on June 3, 2007 09:02:
@Robbie, relax: It’s fine to share comments, yes. I just thought (and so did misery, it seems), that your quotation refers directly to what all the others have said before you. Hence the misunderstanding. Since, apparently, the words bore no connection with the topic, we started wondering what your point was.
Coming back to the subject, I don’t think either of them should take a break. As long as they find what they do enjoyable it is fine by me. Luckily, I don’t mind the latest trend in Pers music. If I did have an issue with that, I would simply not buy the CD. Or better said, as a collector, it would just gather dust among the other Rox records. ;)
So, the choice is ours, and I consider it a really easy one. Cheers! No fights.
chrisjankunas said on June 4, 2007 09:21:
I understand the ideas behind this topic. I love the Powerpop sound of mid 90s Roxette and TWATG.
BUT ...
I love the Mazarin sound ! I wanted this for Roxette, but sadly this music style was not to be added to Marie’s voice :( Oh well. I’m looking forward to the EHM album as the song EHM is fab IMO. I do find SOAP a little less catchy overall even than Mazarin and EHM. But the production and arrangement of that is still fantastic !!!
rox-kuryliw said on June 4, 2007 10:50:
i do agree with some of what you say roxwho. I mean i like some of it like jo-anna says, and hey mr dj ([Jimmy Monell Treatment]) verson, and a few others, but i find alot abit old and boring, not enough power in the songs lately for me, the hooks are weaker aswell. I think its just the mind set per is in at the momont relaxed and remembering his youth music and taking inspiration and just doing that. Im sure he will get it out of his system, im suprised he hasnt done an instrumental album yet you know, that must be next lol. If i was to make music would all be syths and electric guitars and mult layed vocals , i did grow up in the 80’s mind you lol.
RobS said on June 4, 2007 12:59:
I could be wrong, but if Per was still releasing the same stuff that he was back in the late 80s/early 90s, I think there’s a pretty good chance that the same comment would be made.
He said himself he wasn’t inspired around 99/2000 and now he’s gone and changed his music, who knows where he’ll go next. It seems he can’t win whatever he does.
Just remember he’s been making music for the best of part 30yrs as Per/Rox/GT/SOAP etc... that’s a very long time.
Either way if you like it you’ll buy it, otherwise give it a miss. I’m still deciding.
rox-kuryliw said on June 4, 2007 21:50:
“If i was to make music would all be syths and electric guitars and mult layed vocals”
But would you still be making the same music 25yrs later?
Roxrider_USA said on June 4, 2007 16:12:
On his latest interview, Per, says that the plumber’s son will return. So,will the next SOAP album follow the same recent trend?
Take care!
Carlos E., New York
“Communication is key”
mr jefferson said on June 4, 2007 20:05:
Who knows? You can never be sure with this guy, you know. But since SOAP and EHM sound quite similar basically, I don’t expect any great surprises. I agree - you can like this “recent trend” or not (I would also prefer a bit more “Födelsedag” or even “Harleys & Indians” in some songs) - but nevertheless it’s great music and I like this personal feeling to it. Let’s see. I think we have many months left to discuss about that...
miss-misery said on June 4, 2007 22:30:
I just wanted to explain something:
The quote below appears in all my posts, since it’s my signature, so to speak. So it has nothing to do with this conversation or with any other, as I guess Robbie’s one hasn’t either. Just wanted to make sure everybody knew that :p
And... I guess Gessle is now doing the music he wants apart from trends. And it’s quite logical, taking into account that in 1999 he wanted to “be in fashion” and HAND was born.... And yes, we might expect some changes in the future, with this man one never know ;)
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Taschi said on June 9, 2007 19:41:
In my opinion Per does not need to make a break. He should think about, what he is doing with Gyllene Tider and with himself?
With Roxette he changed the sound several times, but to be honest which albun was really successful after Crash Boom Bang?
My husband and me are big Roxette fans. But the last albums, starting with Have a nice day were too duddle, duddle, dei... It was not really Roxette. Ok some songe were ok like Anyone (great song), but songs like “Make my head goes pop” Hey, what’s that?
Why he is making the same music with Gyllene Tider and himself for years, but with Roxette it needs to be some different everytime. Why? Gyllene Tider, The Stones, Bryan Adams, Bon Jovi still doing the same. So it needs to be possible that Roxette can do this also. The good old Roxette style like the period from 89 - 94.
Cheers
pwbbounce (moderator) said on May 31, 2007 09:21:
I think it all comes back to only buy it if you want to. Per is making the music that he wants to make. At this time in his career he can do whatever he wants to do, he has enough creative freedom to do that now.
I liked One Wish, a lot, and I’m not afraid to say that. It was a good catchy pop song, Marie sounded great and it was a typical Rox track in my opinion. And if One Wish was written during Look Sharp! times then I think it would’ve been on the album
Many people go through different stages during their recording life, and that’s their entitlement. You don’t have to buy everything they do! That’s up to you.
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