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Per's sarcams and sence of humour: I'm a fan :)

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Rox_Nox2003 said on October 25, 2006 00:38:

After reading Per’s interview:

Great to read anything Per says, it’s sence of humour and sarcasm reveal his honesty towards what he really thinks and feels.

I guess that the people that will never accept that and make pace in order to go along his thoughts are actually, and ironically, the most hardcore fans. Which makes this whole thing for me more interesting as the type of fan who is able to listen to a The Look or a One Wish and enjoy them equally because the only thing one has to do very naturally almost unconscioulsy is to follow the road and understand what is behind it all before missjuding. Time passes, nothing remains the same not even we can be 5 years old forever LOL so why should they?

It’s funny to confirm that Reveal and One Wish are exactly two songs that are so influeced from the SOAP sound ... I mean why shouldn’t they be? Especially if the SOAP record is Per’s ultimately favourite project. If he liked it, no wonder he loves the new songs and trusts them amazingly. The problem is only on the perception that fans have on the music which remains the same: no evolving no going through time, still wanting things to sound like they used to ... 20 years ago! If my grandmother could have been 30 years old now like she was back then .... LOL

Although I don’t think the USA is such a welcoming country for welcoming old poprock musicians cause it’s all about what’s on the billboard charts and mainstream radio (so to say, rnb and hip hop and some hard rock punk maybe) european pop rock does not fit in that catalogue. It’s like they never seemed to be interested in know what is done musicallywise outside their country. But yet again at least American fans from the band will get an easier and accebile way to the new released and they deserve them to be very honest. Good luck for both!

Thanx Per Bring the beer!

Tonito123 said on :

I love his sarcastic comments and his sense of humor. He’s really funny sometimes

Rox_Nox2003 said on :

The problem with Per’s views and sarcams are nothing but the views and ideas that fans refuse to agree and accept ... just like parents who find it hard to see their children growing and becoming adults when they still feel them as if they were little kids all the time. Or parents who find hard to accpept a son is gay or he intend to pursuit a dream that goes against his parent’s dreams and wishes.

The music changing into something they don’t aprove, complains with tracklist releases, complains with not releasing certain specific sort of material and heading severe criticism towards new musical directions, lyrics, vocals, sounds, intruments, musicians, production... suddenly it became a nightmare being in the roxfan base with this daily complaning conversation.

Nothing is fun, nothing is enjoyable anymore. And all of this because the music isn’t as sucessful as before and therefore it has created a unconscious stigma that not being sucessful means not being good enough, or even crap.

Per and Marie seem to have followed different directions in their music together that has been influeced by several factors around them ... then probably many fans didn’t trully witnessed to understand why and then judge things properly.

And it’s now clear to me that Per doesn’t give a damm to those (including fans) who don’t seem to aprove or agree. They have been in this business for so long that they are free to do whatever they want in music for as long as it rings true and honest to them. And that has meant paying a price towards fans’s contant dissaproval of new material and decisions. But yet they’ll follow their own convictions and beliefs. Sounds fair to me!

After all no one told them how The Look should have sounded back then in order to reach sucess... how would they know it would have been the song it was? And who claims that at this point after 20 years ... that sucess should be a priority for the band? They have reached so much over these years so what’s left do? Nothing ... the dream has been achived, the road has been done with lots of fun so the next thing is to do good music for as long as they want to, and the best music they feel it should be recorded and released ... fans’a aproval? Com’on no one was asked to approve It Must Have Been Love nor Joyride ... so ....

Santi said on :

Sascha said on :

First of all, fans shouldn’t take everything so damn serious! I’m with Per here... ;-P

Santi said on :

Max-Tob said on :

Santi is totally right. Per is joking some sensitive matters off, but he is SUCH a poor receiver of real criticism. He loses his sense of humour immediately in certain situations.

Krischan said on :

Exactly how I see it.

Rox_Nox2003 said on :

QUOTE: “And why oh why should our musical taste evolve exactly the same as Mr Gessle’s?
Isn’t that a bit too pretentious?”

Yes it is pretentious, if that was the case here. The point is it doesn’t have to evolve on his dirrection so therefore why all this constant complaning all the time. You either take the music as it is or leave it... it shouldn’t be that complicated. One like CBB other Joyride and that’s fine. But wanting to all songs and records sound like that all the time only because it’s how you like it makes it all pretentious. Gessle is not asking us to follow his music taste, he doesn’t care less...

QUOTE: “Well, when I think of Roxette I think of the Joyride album, because that music is what I like. Period.
Am I not free to have my musical tastes “evolve” or not “evolve” in the direction I wish?”

Once again, yes of course why shouldn’t you? The same thing goes for everyone... each and every one of us goes closer to the music one likes best and that’s the whole point. But as I said ... people here tend to have problems accepting changes for whatever reason. And once again RS or HAND don’t have to sound like Joyride ... or CBB ... each album good or bad has a sound of itsown. Liking it or not that’s another issue, and it only concerns each one of us. Period! Why complaning?

QUOTE: “On the other hand, about his sense of humour, is releasing so many Greatest Hits part of that sense of humour as well?
I don’t think it’s a good move to joke about your fans. They deserve the highest respect...”

I am a fan and I don’t disrespected. I guess some fans feel that but to be really honest it’s more because of not getting what they “think” it’s theirs. Unreleased demos, unreleased remixes, songs to be singles, tracklist for albuns, covers, titles, bla bla bla bla... Nothing pleases everybody. In fact it never did and it never will, but you know back then in 1991 no one cared with the cover of the Joyride with the silly elephant. The music was great... but ohhhh everybody hates pink on HAND cover and yet the music gets put aside. LOL I always felt fans were fans for the music ... I guess I am on the few naives ones who still functions like that!

As for the GH constant releases. Well, the TBH and TPH concept and intention sounded wonderful to me. The compilations made all sence in terms of content. Yet it’s always easier for us today in 2006 to once again “complain” about it ... cause they were released 3 years ago and guess what? Three years later when there is a 20th anniversary to celebrate noooooo no one wants GH to celebrate which is for me the most logical decision for a context of this kind. I think it’s rather selfish not to be able to understand that none of what happend post-2002 with Marie could be predicted. If it hadn’t happened maybe we could have had one or two studios albuns. But that was not the “story in balamory” back then right? So things turned into something unexpected ... and even more unexpected was Marie phoning Per to do something this year. Per did what he said, he waited until Marie felt the mood to do something ... they could have overlooked this anniversary due to that and we wouldn’t get anything (some ironic fans may claim “wish we din’t get anything instead of another boring GH cd” LOL) but i stick to Per’s thought “if you don’t want it don’t buy it ..” It’s so simples as that ... I have two dvd with all the music videos, I don’t mind having just the normal cd package without the DVD ... it was my choice.

I guess the only reason to have this GH must be the new songs, legitime reason as it was legitime to have TPH and TBH for the new songs and the EPs. I confess it was my motivation ... and so what’s wrong with that? The world does not stop for not having a particular CD it’s up to us to have it or not ... but constant complaning for things that make no sence and make no logic and go against the artist will and belief. For me, I am sorry that’s not being a fan... but a “dictator”.

And the more we complain, the more sarcastic Per will be, as he see that there are “so-called” fans who don’t really know how to go along the road with the band no matter how they sound and what they sing. And that is true challege here for “evolving”. You either wanna know what’s ahead of you or just stop at the next station once you feel it does not fit you anymore ... like you claming “Joyride” is Roxette, cause that’s what you like best. And all it’s so legitime why should it be so difficult to make a stand with a big smile in the face? Cheers

ncurran said on :

I have a very sarcastic sense of humour as most british (and even more so scottish) people do. I must say though that even back in the early days i never really found per’s jokes funny. It’s not a clever or abstract sarcasm...it’s slightly more juvenile than that. Thats not necessarily a criticism...everyone has a different sense of humour, just a general comment. I certainly did not like his response to the rox-box saga. I don’t even think that was humour, or intended as humour by him. I thought it was a patronising and childlike response from someone who obviously cannot take criticism well. However, I am over that now...i am happy roxette are back and i am not going to dwell on it. I never considered myself to be a fan of per anyway. I am a fan of roxette and a fan of marie.

Rox_Nox2003 said on :

See ... People learn to get over things! No matter what they think or feel, of even if it does not go along someone’s else views in the end all that matters is that, it’s all okey.. let’s move on!

By the way, I say hi to all in the UK... great people, great places. Cheers, lads!:)

roxtexanet said on :

Act like a spoiled brat, get treated like a spoiled brat I say. It’s one thing to say “I think you could have made the Rox Box better by...” and quite another to say, “You OWE us more than this! You don’t respect us! We buy your records so we should dictate your artistic direction!!” - I think that’s what Per was reacting to, and I think his reaction was just what was called for. Certainly don’t want to encourage that way of thinking...

Sparvogamarie said on :

I enjoy Per’s sense of humour though he has a bad habit of telling the same jokes over and over and over (for example the “Swedish nation licking our backs” joke which I’ve heard 400 times).

I do agree he can’t take criticism (can anyone ;) ) and I was a little surprised to see he’s STILL bitter at the fans over the box! I understood his little outburst at the time, but he’s still complaining about it??

Rox_Nox2003 said on :

I wouldn’t be surprised Sparvoga LOL after all complaining is a trademark in the Roxcamp for the past 7 years LOL ... No one is happy with anything LOL (okey, not no one but a big majority) LOL

Quote: “Act like a spoiled brat, get treated like a spoiled brat I say” Ummm somewhere down the line, you have probably reached the right point here.

ally77 said on :

The letter was rather funny!

Sparvogamarie said on :

I thought the letter was frickin hilarious hahaha, and yes I agree with the “act like a spoiled brat” comment. At the same time, it probably wasn’t the most professional thing to do from Per’s side and he brought it up AGAIN in the interview! I was like...dude, get over it. Your fans are whiners, big deal. Why should you care? You big we small.

Rox_Nox2003 said on :

Well, in the Roxcamp everything is possible, fans are always complaning and Gessle is always answering back ...it’s like a catfight. One can’t stop it and you might not want to, but you end up following its process along the way LOL

Neither does Gessle get over the fan’s spoiled brad behaviour (or we think he doesn’t), nor do spoiled hardcore fans chage their behaviour: they will always demand remixes, demos, this and that and maybe one they will put out a universal constitution proclaming their demands to be obeyed. LOL... This will go to court... LOL

Emil__BG said on :

I like his sence of humour very much..
And talking about pretence,few fans here a way more pretentious than Per. :-)
Though they still didn’t achieve anything.

LittleSpooky said on :

Sometimes I wonder if people stop to think:

You’re not the first person to criticize Per / Marie / Roxette, etc. After a while, it gets old. If you expect them to sit down and listen to 30 people tell them they’re shit, and take it... you have another thing coming.

I’m the same way. When I was in training to become a bus driver, one of the instructors taught me something about being human:

“I was driving an express route from Provo to Salt Lake. Every person in the line asked: ’Is this the bus that goes to Salt Lake?’ The next person to ask it, got it in full force: ’YES THIS IS THE BUS TO SALT LAKE, WHAT ARE YOU BLIND?!?!’ The response: ’As a matter of fact, yes. My seeing eye dog is right here.”

Granted, the lesson was to teach us to bite our tongues, but my point is:

25 people asked Dan that question. One right after the other after the other. They didn’t pay attention to the person in front of them (who’d asked the same question).

You folks are like those passengers. You’re rehashing old criticizms... and then getting upset when you’ve been “snapped at”.

vtech101 said on :

I appreciate Per and Marie giving us music every so often. I don’t waste my time disecting every remark. Per is human like the rest of us, maybe he fell out of bed that night and hit his head and was kind of “cranky”. Who knows, who cares. It’s very simple. He’s human and he defeated all odds by giving us so much enjoyment over the years and defintely making a name for himself. Yes, were all entitled to our opinions but if you’re trying to get a “rise” out of everybody, then you’re defeating the whole purpose, which is, support the band that’s made everyone so happy over the years. They’ve made me a better person. They were there when I needed them the most and I’ve never even met them personally. Boxes, singles, covers, colors, promotion, blah, blah, blah(is what I’m thinking now but, wait until I fall out of bed tomorrow! argh!)

Rox_Nox2003 said on :

“And talking about pretence,few fans here a way more pretentious than Per. :-)
Though they still didn’t achieve anything.”

Another right point and yet those “so called” rather overlook this kind of statements to keep their search of personal selfishness in order to keep up the “cool vibe” among the community. Wish them all the best... if that can make anyone happy!LOL

@vtech101 : This was the very first honest and most amazing statment I’ve read here. It makes me feel proud of being part of this group of fans and loving Roxette after all these years. Totally agrre with you :)

Max-Tob said on :

@ncurran: you’re my hero. Definitely my hero. I know lots of people with real sense of irony and sarcasm. I’d like to believe that I manage to feel the slightest shade of REAL humour-potential in people gestures/sentences/situations. And I have NEVER thought Per had really good jokes. Just cliché jokes, VERY non British (and very non French), nice to hear when you’re in a good mood, but nothing impressive. I think that per’s famous sense of humour is SO overrated. He has some nice replies in chats. But that would be all. Nothing to laugh at or to remember and laugh at your own thought. He has a highschool kind of humour really. He has that minimalistic kind of replying that some people might take as being humourous...But I think it’s not...
Don’t get me wrong, I am Per’s biggest fan, but his humour is just NOT the best. He is just a quite funny guy with some imagination. But REAL, witty, ironic, sarcastic sense of humour??? No way. Sorry.

Rox_Nox2003 said on :

@ Tob: He’s not also because he does not intend to. He ’s a muscian, that what he’s always been and that he want to keep being...

Max-Tob said on :

@Nox: didn’t talk about professional comics, God, no. Most of the great humour of this world is not made by professionals. He can be a musician with a good sense of humour. Being ironical/sarcastic/funny is not something to dedicate your life to!! I was only saying - in response to SO many people here who find per’s humour brilliant - that his humour is NOT brilliant. The guy is simply not that funny as the fans want him to be. That’s all. It’s not a problem at all. Not everybody is enormously funny and it’s nobody’s fault and it’s also OK not to be the funniest guy in the world. But for God’s sake, stop overrating Per’s jokes and sarcasm. They are, as ncurran said, so childish and obvious. Nothing really valuable in terms of good humour. But it’s OK really.

Rox_Nox2003 said on :

@Tob: I got that ... I knew this was not about being a “qualified profssional humorist” LOL ... The thing here is that Gessle uses his own way of humour (with the beers, coffes, the days of the weeks,etc) just to add some sort of laughable touch on his more sarcastic remarks. But the funny thing here is that fans either love that cause they share or understand what Gessle means, or hate it only because what he thinks goes against what they demand and wish to be, wish to see happening. In the end... Gessle will still drink a cup of coffe, cause he feels he did the right options for the roxbox. And he will ask you if you wanna have a cup too! LOL ...

In a way his way of humour using these sort of phrases and words are just to state one clear idea according to Per, but fans will never accept: “Don’t want it, don’t like it... so, it’s easy, don’t buy it ... It’s not that complicated. Why fuzzing about this?” And only God know how I agree with him

Sparvogamarie said on :

I get what you’re saying Max-Tob, Per’s humour is hardly genius but he can still be kinda funny. I’ve never found him funny enough to laugh out loud, but I’ll often snicker at something he says...or roll my eyes and say “Oh Peerrrr!”

People are funny in different ways. Marie is terrible at trying to be funny, she makes god awful jokes and usually just repeats stuff Per says. But she’s funny in her own way, usually without trying to be. She’s hilarious in the recording of Big L when she can’t sing the song and she’s asking for hamburgers. And sometimes she makes stupid comments that are actually quite funny...like in the latest Afton-söndag interview, there’s an old pic of her with her arms up. Marie’s quote under the photo is “Lucky I shaved my armpits.” Simple but funny.

Rox_Nox2003 said on :

In some way this is like saying, Per is confortable about jumbling around with phrases and words that for him create a certain meaning usually funny for him... and he uses them continually cause that’s part of his natural way of comunicating. He’s one of those guys who can’t stand being serious all the time ... some silly things must come in the middle of the conversation. Whether is funny from the perspective of the listener or reader that’s another story. And as far as Per has shown he continues to use that very own gesslish language of his (ironic, silly, sarcastic, maybe a bit harsh at times) but he will... no matter what ... no matter who. What he thinks and believes he will always have his say ... the only thing here is that people aren’t offended personally with his words, Per does not use to “be agressive or rude or violent” ... but people will likely deslike his speech so to say for one reason... his thought and views aren’t the same as their fans and people related. And that has created a sort of “crack on the walls” here. And yet Per doesn’t care less.. LOL You want a better prove than his latest TDR interview?? ... don’t try to fool yourself!

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