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IPPIE said on July 6, 2006 09:56:
Anyone for that?
I am sorry if I am wrong, but I haven’t noticed a topic about books and reading at all. Do you think we can try?
Sharing opinions, commenting, advising, recommending, discussing, giving links, sending books to others ( there are books you REALLY want to read, but CAN’T find in your country and CANNOT order on the net...),
AND WHATSOEVER YOU MAY THINK OF...
ally77 said on July 6, 2006 10:59:
I love books, I have just got back into reading this year after not reading for so long! Now I am catching up on so many good reads!
I love Stephen King books and Dan Brown!
Currently reading all the Harry Potters again!
kachina008 said on July 6, 2006 11:19:
I tried starting a thread about reading and books way back in the day :P obviuosly it didn’t get too far :P
Debora said on July 6, 2006 19:38:
I really enjoy reading. My favourites writers are J R R Tolkien, Wilbur Smith, Stephen King, Michael Crichton, Takashi Matsuoka...
My favourite book is “The Lord of the Rings” and that book is the reason why I’m learning English: I wanted to read it in its original language.
I also enjoy Wilbur Smith. His way of telling the story and the way he describe landscapes are wonderful. Every time I read a book by him I feel if I really was in Africa!
Takashi Matsuoka is an American writer descendat of Japanese. I have only read “Autumn Bridge” a beautiful book, specially if you like Japanese culture and the samurai way of living.
ally77 said on July 6, 2006 21:10:
Debora, if you have success if reading TLOTR then that is great, even I struggled with that and I am English, took a few reads till I could understand it, but it is worth it as its a good book!
Santi said on July 6, 2006 21:30:
I’d recommend some by Italo Calvino (Marcovaldo)
And Umberto Eco (Il nome della Rosa / The name of the Rose is great).
And some short stories by Dino Buzzati.
Oh, and Seta (Silk) by Alessandro Baricco.
I wonder if anyone would learn Italian to read any of these :D But it’s a wonderful language... (and guys, girls do find it sexy ;) - Doesn’t apply to Italian girls though :( :D )
IPPIE said on July 7, 2006 08:56:
Well, my idea wasn’t exactly that, but it’s O’K.
I intended to make this topic more like library, or discussing reading club..., or something of the sort.?
1. One of the last books I erad was The Beach by Alex Garland. Obsessions of no real life, kicking away the common stuff, what you are. Soul that at first you won’t admit, but then you can’t set free, no loosy way out. Denying. Dreaming mind placed in utopia>?
Has anybody read the book? Any thoughts about it?
2. THE LORD OF THE RINGS. almost every one around talks about that, but I as a person who never read a single thing of Tolkin, can’t understand the fuss anout it (nor the movie). So talk to me, help me see the spell...
Santi said on July 7, 2006 10:22:
It’s funny about the Tolkien thing, because he just created those books as a framework or as a world where his conlangs would function.
I guess he didn’t expect either all the fuzz about it :D
lonely_girl said on July 7, 2006 18:37:
I think I read the beach too.... wasn’t there a film with the same title? With Leonardo di Caprio? It’s a long time ago I read the book though
(I can’t really remember all the books I ever read)
I read LOTR again some time ago because two of my mates were very fond of fantasy and they kinda infected me.
I like most of Henning Mankell’s books - but they are sometimes scary and very dark.
For the lighter side of life I recommend Marian Keyes even though the latest book I read wasn’t such a page turner
kachina008 said on July 7, 2006 19:09:
omg i love marian keyes!! I am waiting desparately for the newest one to come out in paperback! which book did you read lonelygirl, that wasn’t such a page turner?
Debora said on July 7, 2006 19:20:
@ally
Well, I understood it because I had read it in Spanish before. There are a lot of characters and most of them say or do important things.
The thing I like the most about this book is that all the people in the Middle Earth fight together against a common enemy (well, not exactly because there are people who fight for Sauron), no matter if they are humans, hobbits, people of the forest. Even the elves take a part in the fight but (not as they do in the movie).
I can’t say exactly why it is my fave story, but maybe is because every single action, small action, is important to arrive to a good ending.
The Silmarillion is a wonderful book as well, it tells the story of the First Age in Tolkien’s world, it the mythology of the Middle Earth.
lonely_girl said on July 7, 2006 19:20:
the other side of the story... I think it was rather lame not what the abstract promised
kachina008 said on July 7, 2006 20:53:
lonelygirl: I agree. I was disappointed with that one. Personally I love all the books based on the Walsh sisters!
IPPIE said on July 10, 2006 13:47:
lonely_girl – yes there is a movie with LdC, but it doesn’t go with the book....
as for Marian Keyes it sounds familiar, but I am not sure I know her...
O’k any CSI readers?
rox-kuryliw said on July 10, 2006 13:55:
dean koontz, read all his books, if you like sci fi horror/ adventure, his books are for you/
rox-kuryliw said on July 10, 2006 17:53:
ow i did that ally before the last book came out, ill most likely do it again before the next book comes out aswell lol.
Debora said on July 10, 2006 18:59:
@IPPIE
I haven’t read or seen that movie. But I have read lot of book and then seen the movie and the movies never go with the book. It’s a pity. But now I know it: I don’t watch movie based on books anymore.
Majdy said on July 10, 2006 20:44:
I’d like to recommend Dan Brown, but I bet he’s already too famous, and maybe many of you had red his books.
So, I’d say PREY by Michael Crichton (Well, I know he’s famous too :) )
Although lately I’ve been trying to find books by Candice Ransom in the bookstore, but just couldn’t find it, probably will try to find it through the internet though.
Debora said on July 10, 2006 22:03:
I haven’t read any book by Dan Brown yet. But Crichton has written good books. One of my fave is Timeline. There is a film “based” on this book but, of course, it has nothing to do with the book.
Majdy said on July 10, 2006 22:36:
Really? I saw the movie but haven’t read the book. I must admit, the movie wasn’t that great.
Majdy said on July 10, 2006 22:37:
Oh, also I always wanted to read Rosemary’s Baby, I red that the movie was so faithfull to the book. Anyone read that?
IPPIE said on July 11, 2006 05:00:
Dean Koontz, hm, they compare him to Stephev King and few others. I had s.th. there about Voodoo -?
Debora – it depends whether the movie is BASED on the book, or it is FILMING the book. If it’s based they could just take the idea and make s.th. absolutely, totally different., whereas filming, it should be followed, but it’s most likely for serials. In teh based-on movies you actually see the directors point of view.
I have two books by Dan Brown. I got them for my birthdays, but still haven’t read them. Shame on me... Don’t tell my friends, please! :-)
I have a friend that says some books come to be read when the time comes.
The Harry Potter mania! Isn’t it most likely for children?, or not that most likely...?
ally77 said on July 11, 2006 06:56:
Look what I just found on eBay Majdy! :)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=007&item=170005164566...
bargain price....
miss-misery said on July 12, 2006 00:01:
Some time ago I read a book called “The world according to Garp” by John Irving. It really mixes comedy with tragedy. One of my favourite books ever, I always recommend it.
By the way, doesn’t the title ring a bell?? ;)
Ah! Now I’m reading Paul Auster’s “Oracle Night”. I’ll tell you if I like it when as soon as I finish it!
denny said on July 12, 2006 04:46:
I read mostly SciFi and Fantasy and I read 2 great books recently! I would reccomend them to any fantasy reader:
Roger Zelazny - Amber cronicles - and I found it here - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0380809060/104-6422746-7617560?v=glance...
and Dan Simmons - Hyperion. Now I started book 2 and it’s great. I also found it here, if someone’s interested - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0553283685/104-6422746-7617560?v=glance...
sfchemist said on July 17, 2006 21:33:
If you like fantasy denny, have you read any Robin Hobb or Raymond E. Feist? That Roger Zelazny sounds interesting but I just brought a dozen books yesterday so its another one on the wish list. Cheers for the recommendation.
denny said on July 18, 2006 00:30:
No, I haven’t read those sfchemist. I will look them up. :) Thanks.
ally77 said on July 24, 2006 07:49:
Rosemary’s Baby was a great read.... it had some extra scences in it though that the film didn’t have!
pwbbounce (moderator) said on August 1, 2006 07:58:
I remember reading the Worst Witch books by Jill Murphy when I was a kid. I think I’ve still got them somewhere.
I also remember the “Point” series of books. Point Horror, Point Suspense etc... Does anyone remember these?? The horror ones were funny. Titles likes The Babysitter, The Boyfriend, The Girlfriend. I’ve got loads of these somewhere too.
I don’t really read too much now, just magazines. I can’t even remember what book i read last
IPPIE said on August 1, 2006 16:41:
pwbbounce – These make no talking to me, sorry. I don’t think I’ve heard about them.
But now I am at the POINT of taking some Physics, just to read something, because I am dying of boredom at the moment... So anyone suggest anything...? I have a big library around me, university one,,,, please, help...
ally77 said on August 1, 2006 18:16:
Oh Paul I loved Point Horror books, I use to read them all the time in my teens!
I started with The Babysitter and worked my way through, some of them where quite scary…
I would love to read some of them now!
I also love The Worst Witch books, read them as well…
Also love Judy Blume books but I think I was under 10 then!
Majdy said on August 1, 2006 19:36:
I wanna start reading The Chronicles of Narnia :) I only red The Magicioan Nephew which I thought was the first one of the series.
whateveriam said on August 2, 2006 19:55:
Never read them, and I refuse to watch the film until I do.
Anyone read Popular Music by Mikael Neimi? It is a translation, but I really liked it.
IPPIE said on August 4, 2006 16:41:
Whateveriam – People that really like reading books do so, but a lot only watch...
But I am thinking about something... People say that watching the movie after reading the book could be disappointing ( you see how much is lost)... What about the opposite ?, Reading a book after watching the movie, finding out how much more there is to discover!
Debora said on August 4, 2006 18:42:
Well, my fave book, as I said before, is The Lord Of The Ring and I read it after watching the first movie and the book is much better than the film. There are lot of things that weren’t showed in the movie, but it is understandable.
ramis said on August 4, 2006 19:19:
i study english litearture
i have a lot about books
whoooo like to talk
Majdy said on August 5, 2006 03:26:
–What about the opposite ?, Reading a book after watching the movie, finding out how much more there is to discover!
I red my first Harry Potter’s book after watch the movie. When I watched it, I didn’t like it, but then I red the book, then I was surprised how good it was, so then I watch the movie again and this time I REALLY love it.
shannyn77 said on August 5, 2006 04:19:
I read too much - my favourite author is Cathy Kelly - her writing is great!
IPPIE said on August 5, 2006 10:25:
Ramis and everyone I want to talk about literature. That is what this forum is about.
But most of the time I feel like a FOOL, because I haven’t read a lot or the books I’ve read noone has ever heard of... , so if you talk to me ..., tell me something more about the authers and their books, if you discuss, I would be more than happy.
And once again, Cathy Kelly - means nothing to me, (SHAME ON ME), as I said, haven’t read much. So sorry!!!
lonely_girl said on August 5, 2006 11:10:
Cathy Kelly is cool, just for lighthearted entertainment. (And I’m so fed up with the scholarly literature I have to read for my thesis :-/ ) Need to subscribe at the library again to get access to more books ;)
whateveriam said on August 5, 2006 22:17:
’People say that watching the movie after reading the book could be disappointing ( you see how much is lost)’
@ IPPIE-Very true-which is why I have only seen the 1st Harry Potter film. Under pressure.
But I hope with some films and TV adaptations that some people do go and read the books, cos they are adapted for a reason. But then again, how many people actually read Pride And Prejudice after watching either the film or BBC version? A lot of people bought it, but how many actually did read it? Makes you wonder...
ramis said on August 6, 2006 08:00:
we have 2 kinds of book escape and interpreative
one just for pleasure the other for pleasure and think.
which one do you want?
we have different readers ,are you among those that just read without any deep thinking?
great writers want great readers.
Debora said on August 6, 2006 19:01:
It depends on my mood. Usually I like reading just for pleasure, but sometimes I like reading something a bit deeper (one have to think from time to time) specially when I’m down.
IPPIE said on August 7, 2006 16:32:
Pleasure and think..., maybe that is the reason why it takes me so long time to read a book?! But , of course, the simply pleasure itself can never be rejected.
Ramis – go on, please.
Kathrin said on August 7, 2006 20:41:
I like the American Girls Books from Janet Shaw for example ,,Meet Kirsten” it’s about: ===Kirsten Larson, [[1854]]===
Kirsten Larson is a pioneer girl of strength and spirit growing up on the [[Minnesota]] plains. She is an immigrant from [[Sweden]] who lives in the Minnesota Territory and faces the hardships of adjusting to a new and unfamiliar country.
ramis said on August 14, 2006 17:54:
yes you right.
sometimes I read books just for running away,
run awy, from harsh reality.I love books.when I open a book it seems that I enter to a new world.
I live with books.a story becomes interpretive as it illminates some aspect of human life or behavior.an interpretive story presents us with an insight_larg or small_into the nature and condition of our existence.It gives us a keener awareness of what it is to be a human being in a universe sometimes friendly,sometimes hostile.It helps us to undrastand our neighbors and ourselves.
Anton Chekhov,Sherwood Anderson,William Faulkner,D.H Lawrence,Ernest Hemingway,Nathaniel Hawthorne,...they are some interpretive writers.
ThePopHits said on August 14, 2006 18:42:
so many crappy books and writers you mentioned... Dan Brown, Harry Potter. Commercial crap.
I‘m into REAL authors only. Charles Dickens, Ernest Hemingway, John Steinbeck, Harold Bloom, James Joyce etc.
IPPIE said on August 15, 2006 16:42:
ThePopHits – There are passengers for every train. Books for every reader. I would like to ask why you think that in “commercial” books nothing could be found?
Interprete a book could be like a double reflectin.
Could seem so right and be so away of the authers idea. Could calm you down. Could make you happy. Could do anything.
It is you yourself and noone else.
Majdy said on August 15, 2006 20:37:
I agree that Harry Potter books are commercial, but it doesn’t mean they weren’t good reading. I could see why it becomes so “popular”, because J.K Rowling is a great author, full of ideas and has the thing that not every author has, the abilities to make the readers won’t stop reading until it’s finished. I’m glad the fact that many people start to like reading the book after reading Harry Potter. As for me, I started to find the magic in reading (again) thanks to Harry Potter series...
IPPIE said on August 16, 2006 16:40:
All right... !!!!!! ´:-)
Majdy – do you know about the writing of Harry Potter?
I wonder what makes a book commercial? The fact that it has found the perfect gap to fit in? Because the book is being liked by many people, read by many people and talked about by even more people? Or because it is writen only to be sold?
What is a commercial book?
Majdy said on August 16, 2006 19:07:
- Majdy – do you know about the writing of Harry Potter?
IMO, it’s great and I’m just amazed on how JK Rowling’s style of writing. How she has the ability to make the reader “addicted” to the stories and can’t wait to turn to another page, the ideas that she put in the book are brilliant, the words she used are great and smart but sometimes funny at the same time.
- I wonder what makes a book commercial? Because the book is being liked by many people, read by many people and talked about by even more people? Or because it is writen only to be sold?
What is a commercial book?
What you’ve said describe what’s commercial book is. I know many author only want to write a book that can be sold, but of course since it meant to be sold the author has to be “smart” and at least has the strategy in how to make the writing of the book interesting, and it’s not an easy thing to do.
But I bet there are still some out there that only want to write what they really want, even maybe the topic that people not interested too, but again, an interesting topic can turn into not interesting, if they don’t have the skill in making a good writing. However, boring topic can be interesting if they really posses the ability to make a good writing.
lol! I hope I can make my explanation make sense, since I’m not really good in writing english :)
Majdy said on August 16, 2006 19:10:
Oh, just want to add something. Most of the books I read were translation into Indonesian. But for harry Potter, I read that in both language, Indonesian and English.
lonely_girl said on August 17, 2006 11:50:
Oh hell, I can’t stand this discussion about comercial books and educative books. Nowadays one has to be glad when people read at all!
IPPIE said on August 19, 2006 09:12:
People read in deed, though it sounds unrealistical, I know. But even all the surfing in internet is reading, isn’t it? ´:-) I think people are getting back to the books. It’s just the nowadays life, all we are missing, all we need - TIME!
Majdy – I still don’t think I get the commercial books. Is a book that sells a lot a commercial one, or? Off course an interesting book would sell a lot, but .... does that make it a commercial one?
And I asked you, if you knew why she had writen Harry Potter? The reason I mean.
Majdy said on August 19, 2006 16:54:
Personally, I actually won’t really describe the interesting book that sell alot a commercial one, but then people who doesn’t think it’s “interesting” might think that I’m biased for think that.
So, okay then, I’ll say that the one that sell alot is commercial, but it doesn’t always mean that everything that commercial are bad, right? Or sometimes I think the book become “look” so commercial after the stories on it were also adapt into something else like movie, merchandise etc.
Well, I can’t really guess the reason why she wrote Harry Potter, but I’m pretty sure that the first reason is because she LOVE to write, and by reading those I can tell that she must put all her “passion” on it to make it such a great books. The other reason, probably she wants to make money, also this is make sense too. I mean, if I’m author and that’s the only thing I can do, of course I’d like people to buy my books.
Onething that I like from her, I think when she was writing that, she didn’t really think about what people would like to read, so when people start to read that, they realize that this is what they want. So, I like the way she tried “control” the market, instead of being controled (but again, I could be wrong, because I haven’t really read enough about the Rowling’s life).
I hope what I said make sense. if not, just tell me, and I try to think even harder :)
whateveriam said on August 19, 2006 17:08:
Commercial sells because it is often more accessible then something heavy and arty that some critic says they’re gonna take on holiday
Commercial books play to a wide audience, who want to be entertained. Anyway, HP has got to a point where its so high up, its going to sell gazillions even if it is complete tripe. If its populist, so what? If it gets kids to read, and use our hideously underfunded libraries, thats progress. OK, it isn’t Machiavelli, or Jane Eyre, or whatever-but it is a step in the right direction!
IPPIE said on August 22, 2006 15:21:
´:-)
I’ll tell you the story in September. I am afraid that now I have no internet.
ally77 said on August 29, 2006 07:06:
Harry Potter books are great, I keep reading them over and over, it’s like being a kid again!
ally77 said on August 29, 2006 07:07:
.... I’ve also been on a bit of a book buying spree this last couple of weeks, added no less than 15 new books to my collection, some fiction some educational....
IPPIE said on September 1, 2006 15:40:
...and some nothing of the sort.
O’K, does anyone want the story of Harry Potter, or ..?
Vixzter said on September 1, 2006 17:58:
I will read anything Star Wars cos I’m a geek! ;-P
Currently on Legacy Of The Force: Bloodlines by Karen Traviss
Majdy said on September 1, 2006 19:00:
Now I’m reading the series about a little girl called Ramona :). It’s fun to be a kid :P
ally77 said on September 5, 2006 18:26:
Actually just from reading Vix’s blog, those Star Wars books look quite thrilling!
arnie said on September 6, 2006 12:07:
I’ve just finished the book In cold blood by Truman Capote... it’s an amazing book!
Can anyone recommend another book like this?
Majdy said on September 6, 2006 20:32:
@ Ippie : She!, but I don’t mind to be a kid again. There are so many cool games out there that I wish I had when I was kid.
ally77 said on September 7, 2006 05:45:
Awww kids books where great.... Topsy and Tim where my faves when I was about 4!
IPPIE said on September 11, 2006 15:53:
Maybe people never grow. They just think they shoud be grown up and they act like such. They try to keep away what is in them. People say - life , world is tough and they make you grow up, but who makes them such? - We do.
children want to grow up. Adults want to be children again.
I am not sure there are books for children and books for adults. There are books for times and state of mind.
Vixzter said on September 11, 2006 21:52:
ally: 77 days til the next one is released not that i’m counting or anything! ;-)
Vixzter said on September 11, 2006 21:55:
i had a fav book when i was little
it was called ’My Cat Likes To Hide In Boxes’ no idea who it was by but it was bloody fantastic and i’d kill to get my hands on a copy now LOL
the cat from a japan had a great big fan
but my cat just likes to hide in boxes
the cat from france liked to sing and dance
..........
was flippin marvelous!
and you all wonder why i’m like i am >;-)
IPPIE said on September 19, 2006 23:46:
O’K.
Moderater you can close this topic. It seems to be out of need.
ally77 said on October 5, 2006 18:14:
This topic stays open! ;)
I would so love to get my hands on those BIG RED BOOKS I use to read in primary schooL... I wonder if I might find one on eBay! lol
Speaking off books.... I so cannot wait to get reading:
The Sound of Laughter - Peter Kay! The cover of the book just gets me laughing!
http://www.play.com/Books/Books/4-/1093017/The_Sound_of_Laughter/Product...
IPPIE said on October 5, 2006 19:28:
Nice surprise...
Thank you ally!
What are those red books?
I’m resding “Catch 22” - j.h. and honestly , I did not expect the book to be like it is up to now! Maybe I do not remember it quite well?
Secretkeeper81 said on July 6, 2006 10:34:
I can recommend books by Nick Hornby. I love his way of writing, and the interesting stories he tells. Moreover, he’s into music and football just like me ;)