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Per has a right to know...
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Rox_me_like_a_baby said on December 6, 2005 07:52:
I submitted an article to about CD copy protection faults to TDR, and for some reason it has not been published. I cannot think of any logical reason why it hasn’t been published, accept for perhaps overly cautious moderators who won’t publish anything that is even remotely negative about Roxette...but if you read the article, it has nothing negative about Per at all. It doesn’t even attack anyone. I wrote that article with the sole intention that Per might read it and ask his record company about it (as he has no control over what copy protection they use on his CDs). If he is aware of the problem then at least next time he may be able to do something about it. Per is not going to lose record sales because of it (Mazarin was also copy protected), so why wouldn’t TDR publish the article?
I urge TDR to please reconsider publishing it on the main Page.
Respectfully,
Jason Gomes. (a.k.a. Rox_me_like_a_baby)
PS: If for some reason this article seems too aggressive, then TDR has my full permission to ’soften’ it in editing. If you do this then please mention that the article has been changed and edited. I don’t mind this because, as I mentioned, my only intention is that Per is made aware of the problem, so that next time he might be able to change things. Also did you know that SONY/BMG has apparently abandoned all it’s copy protection schemes, because they ended up causing more problems than what they were worth?
Here is the article:
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TITLE: “Son of a Plumber” copy protection easily defeated
Once again, the copy protection for the so-called “new generation” of copy protection schemes has failed. Upon receiving my “Son of a Plumber” CD by Per Gessle, I was shocked to discover that the CD would not work in my car stereo, nor would it work in one of my home stereos. So I popped the CD into my computer, and was surprised to find that three out of the four pieces of CD ripping/burning software that I possess were able to effortlessly copy the CD, and also extract the tracks to MP3 files. This of course left me scratching my head.
Copy protection schemes are used by record companies to try and prevent the piracy of compact discs, however every time a new protection scheme is devised, it seems to be easier to defeat than the previous scheme. But what price is the consumer having to pay for copy control? The first is poor audio quality. Even the new copy protection schemes still introduce audible metallic-sounding clicks at regular one second intervals in the music, it is just not that easy to hear because CDs are mastered so loudly these days, that the metallic-clicks are covered up by an avalanche of sound. These metallic clicks are caused by the copy protection interfering with the CD’s error-correcting mechanism, which brings us the next problem: CDs are considerably less resistant to scratches. A misplaced scratch could mean the death of your favorite song. Record companies, of course, couldn’t care less, as for them the name of the game is “profits first, quality later”. The irony is that copy protection schemes have actually INCREASED music piracy, as people are having to burn copies of the CDs they are buying just so that it can work on their home stereos. In fact, copy protection has gotten so ludicrous that record companies cheekily put labels on the CD packaging that say something like “this CD may not work in your car”. Check it out on your S.O.A.P. CD. Am I missing something here? Don’t most people listen to CDs in their cars on the way to work, school, etc.?
The bottom line is that copy protection is a myth. There has never been a copy protection scheme in history that hasn’t been defeated. The companies who devise these copy protection schemes, are trying to sell security to insecure record companies, by every year promising that there is a “new technology” that will save them millions in profits that would ordinarily be lost. So until record companies find a “miracle cure” for copy protection (and they never will), consumers will either be paying the price, pirating what they paid for, or getting a refund.
For more information on copy control technology, go to:
http://ukcdr.org/issues/cd/links/
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Rox_me_like_a_baby said on December 6, 2005 12:20:
Santi, 2 stories have made the front page since I submitted the article...
ncurran said on December 6, 2005 13:15:
do you really think per cares? He probably supports the copy protection anyway if some of the views he has aired in the past are anything to go by
Rox_me_like_a_baby said on December 6, 2005 15:02:
Of course he supports copy protection, but do you think he supports CDs that don’t work in your car, or even in some home stereos? Per is an artist, and artists care about their music. He should at least be aware of the problem.
mattias said on December 6, 2005 15:41:
I recall Per saying “I support CD’s that are playable”, commenting copy protection.
Roxrider_USA said on December 6, 2005 20:36:
“Copy protection” might as well be discarded alltogether. I also, still have not seem one that works besdies preventing people from enjoying the CDs they buy, properly. I mean, now when we buy CDs, we just have to accept that it might not work in our car players and even in some of our home based stereo systems as though it was the most natural thing in life. Isn’t it flat out madness? It’s just completely outrages. It is like we have to take a chance with the CDs we purchase nowadays.
And also, i don’t have any facts to back up what i’m about to say, however, “copy protection” might just be making the final cost of the CDs for us, the consumers, more expensive.
These “copy protection” technologies, for me atleast, are just bogus and a rip off. It’s just sordid.
So, it would be really appreciated, if TDR were to publish the letter, which is the reason for this thread, even if the TDR personnel believes that the letter won’t change anything or even catch the attention of the those to whom the letter is intended.
@Rox_me_like_a_baby: Nice effort. Agree with you and decided to give you a hand by posting this message.
Take care!
Carlos E., New York.
thenicekai said on December 6, 2005 22:23:
Can’t help myself, but this topic doesn’t really sound specific enough to be brought to Page 1 of the daily ROXETTE. Yes, it is important, and yes it is interesting. But I can’t see anything special concerning Roxette or Per. And I’m sure, this topic is already well-known among the EMI staff and even Per.
Jud (moderator) said on December 6, 2005 23:09:
submitting an article doesn’t mean we will publish it, yours is not the only one that’s pending. Sometimes we don’t have time, sometimes we are not interested :)
This is copied from the “submit article” page:
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Sparvogamarie said on December 7, 2005 04:46:
I agree with thenicekai, what does that have to do with Roxette? TDR only prints boring stuff about copy protection when there’s no news. And there’s TONS of news right now.
Rox_me_like_a_baby said on December 7, 2005 08:03:
Thanks for the support Roxrider USA. But it seems that once again, the TDR moderators are only interested in publishing “shiny, happy” news about Roxette. And with the incredibly stupid comments like “I can’t see anything special concerning Roxette or Per”, I really am not even going to bother posting any news here again. In fact, I don’t think I am even going to continue to read TDR, as the news here is one sided anyway. www.roxette.nl is better. And yes Judith, I saw the “TDR has no obligation to publish a submitted article”, I can read... my, my, you moderators and your “clever, witty” comments...
tevensso (moderator) said on December 7, 2005 11:04:
Yes I agree, you should definitely post that piece to .nl, that will make them wake up maybe.
It’s a very strange reaction from you I must say. I agree with you that a the copy protection stinks in every way, but to take it out on TDR, that does NOT only publish “happy” news about Roxette is so wrong. If you happen to leave us due to that, then good riddance I say. Have fun with .nl.
thenicekai said on December 7, 2005 12:39:
quote: “And with the incredibly stupid comments like “I can’t see anything special concerning
Roxette or Per”, I really am not even going to bother posting any news here again.”
Do I have to comment this?
Btw, I’m no moderator.
And for heavens sake, calm down...
Rox_me_like_a_baby said on December 7, 2005 14:05:
My reaction is not strange. I’m just sick of this place.
1) If you write something even remotely controversial in the forums, it is either deleted or censored.
2) If you swear, even with words like “shit”, it gets deleted, unless of course you are in the “TDR click” and you are friends with a moderator, then your swearing doesn’t get deleted.
3) If I publish or contribute to an article for TDR, and the article is “happy”, it gets published in a flash. If the article is perceived as even remotely negative, it disappears into the Abyss.
4) Even after explaining your reasons for saying or publishing something, no matter how logical, sensible, or methodical your explanations are, everytime some idiot invariably pops up and says either:
a) “why would you want to do that?”
b) “who cares?”
c) “That’s a stupid idea”
d) “I can’t see anything special concerning Roxette or Per”
e) “TDR has no obligation to publish a submitted article”
It’s just frustrating. This place feels so fake.
And yes, I know TDR has the right to do with their site whatever the hell they like and not take shit from stupid people like me...and yes, I know if I don’t like it I can piss off and go somewhere else...
EVERYONE JUST MISSES THE DAMN POINT. sigh...
PS: I don’t want to publish this at roxette.nl, I don’t want to publish it anywhere. I’m not some little idiot who is desperate to be heard. I actually don’t give a shit about this article anymore. I’m sorry I even wasted my time writing it.
colinvdbel (moderator) said on December 7, 2005 14:23:
I won’t even respond to such childish remarks. Clearly someone’s very frustrated with himself.
Comments on TDR should be posted in the TDR Discussion forum: http://www2.dailyroxette.com/smalltalk/forum.php/3
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Santi said on December 6, 2005 08:51:
Normally it takes some time for the staff at TDR to read and publish things. You know, they are not so many, and they are not professionally dedicated to the Daily roxette. I mean, it’s not like you’re sending news to CNN.
Patience brother...
Just read this, written by Visa himself: http://www2.dailyroxette.com/smalltalk/thread.php/14671