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Roxette is history - and I applaud it!
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Geirboy said on August 17, 2004 11:56:
Don’t get me wrong - Roxette had their moments, but:
When writing for Roxette Per seemed to have a certain sound in his head aimed for pleasing as many as possible, the productions was awful (so polished, so smooth, so digitalized, so...boring), and I always found maries singing tiresome.
Therefore I salute it if Per continues solo. His work with GT, not to mention his solowork is WAY better than Roxette. What I would like for a Roxette funeral is:
1) A boxset with outtakes and demoes where per sings Maries parts
2) The best Roxette tracks redone by Per and his mates
Ok, start killing me now...
purplemedusa said on August 17, 2004 12:16:
“Ok, start killing me now...” - thanx for the invite; I will most certainly do so!!
LaMan said on August 17, 2004 12:26:
please dont talk about “Roxette funeral”.
I think we all need to hope for the best now.
Roxette-atic said on August 17, 2004 14:54:
I wont kill you but Ill tell you one thing: You are so wrong man!
Nox1983 said on August 17, 2004 17:24:
Roxette is history - and I applaud it! ... you seem to be happy... hope you enjoy the funeral ;)
RoxHard said on August 17, 2004 22:35:
Obviously this is a GT fan, who never liked Roxette. He’s swarmed straight over from the GT forum to here, wanting to make us feel sad.
This person OBVIOUSLY has never heard HAND...
Nox1983 said on August 18, 2004 00:04:
is he a GT fan?? ohhh!!! GT turne is almost over, and i applaud it!
RoxHard said on August 18, 2004 02:25:
“Obviously this is a GT fan, who never liked Roxette. He’s swarmed straight over from the GT forum to here, wanting to make us feel sad.”
Well... it seems that anyway! Check his user-stats. 1 topic starters, 1 post. He obviously is a GT fan who swarmed straight over from the GT forum
Geirboy said on August 18, 2004 07:40:
There is some strange thinking going on here. Are you guys really divided into “GT fans”, “Rox fans” and so???
I enjoy Per’s music first and foremost, and have done so for more than 20 years. I have a massive collection of material, including everything Per released official, and then some... I’ve met Per personally, and have discussed this matter with him. Likes and dislikes are a personal thing, and I was just stating my personal opinion, not realising there was so many youngsters here. But if you calm down a bit, you will find that what I state isn’t any different from what Per himself had said over and over. Conserning Roxettes breakthrough he says something like: “We worked hard to get that sound that works on American radio, and when Clarence entered the picture we found that sound, and we could rerecord the tracks in a way that would sell.”
Well, in my book many of these songs were very good, but far better before they got this treatment (they sounded less synthetic before). Afterwards Per was never quite able to choose another path for Roxette, although there was some great moments like “She Doesn’t Live Here Anymore”. That polished production is gone from his GT-work and even more his solowork, and that makes it more authentic (and enjoyable) for me. When I listen to Roxette I hear the sound of good songs that almost always could have been better with another production.
Per himself is often refering to the same thing. When he writes a song he instantly can tell if it’s a Roxette-song, a GT-song or a solo-song, because they somehow needs to fit a “formula”.
That doesn’t make Roxette “bad”, I rank them in my top 20 artists of all time. But Per solo I rank second to only one other artist - and now I have tried to explain you why.
Sparvogamarie said on August 18, 2004 07:51:
You’re entitled to your opinion I suppose, though as a Marie fan, I find your comments even more “tiresome” than her voice....
I agree with you from the point that you can still enjoy Gessle’s music without Roxette. I feel the same in the other way, I can enjoy Marie without Roxette also. It actually doesn’t bother me either way whether they are together or not. Though is it really necessary to come here and start upsetting Roxette fans who do care by talking about funerals and trashing Roxette’s music??
AURYTE said on August 18, 2004 08:01:
Well, many fans enjoy both ROXETTE and GYLLENE TIDER material. But I think many maybe more orientated ROXETTE fans have missed ROXETTE songs.
And really I hope there will be less people who are talking about the end of ROXETTE. Maybe PER is reading it and HE might understand that there are no fans left... But there are, there are!!!
zaine said on August 18, 2004 09:48:
You know, I think I actually agree with this dude. Maybe not the way that he expressed his opinions, but I think we’re both thinking along the same lines.
“Well, in my book many of these songs were very good, but far better before they got this treatment (they sounded less synthetic before). Afterwards Per was never quite able to choose another path for Roxette, although there was some great moments like “She Doesn’t Live Here Anymore”. That polished production is gone from his GT-work and even more his solowork, and that makes it more authentic (and enjoyable) for me. When I listen to Roxette I hear the sound of good songs that almost always could have been better with another production.”
this is completely true. The songs were beginning to sound tired, and almost ’ordered’. as though they were doing it because they NEEDED to, and not because they want to.
I also agree that GT has far more energy, and is often more entertaining to listen to. It sounds like fun times to record GT albums; the boys, guitars, a set of drums and a pack of beer in the studio. Where as Rox was more a packet of crisps and some warm lemonade. I dunno, it just doesn’t have the same vibe.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not hoping for ’the death of roxette’ at all. I personally would like to dream of a future tour so that I can personally experience them, but the facts that this guy has set down, are true (in my opinion)
so rather than flame him, I’m gonna say ’wooo, go you buddy!’ and hope everyone else will note that I burn easily and don’t have a fire-extinguisher.
Emil__BG said on August 18, 2004 10:44:
zaine at least you write under you nick and that’s make you opinion personal
it’s not the same with Geirboy and it’s undertsandable that he is hiding (or making account just to write this)cos using words like funeral is rude and obscene..
it’s normal to like more one or other part of Per’s or Marie’s work but there some ethic norm that must be respect..
Altough you can like or not Roxette.. this band haS the history and is in the history of music!!!
Give me a call when the next band from sweden do the same..
I personnaly visited Per’s and Gt’s tours and a like what i see very much and it was great,but spliting of Roxette won’t make them greater..
Per solo,Marie solo,GT,Roxette they are diffrent but in the same time so close..and that’s normal cos each of us has a different sides.. side for”the boys, guitars, a set of drums and a pack of beer in the studio” and side for “packet of crisps and some warm lemonade”..
and that’s is unique about Per and Marie..don’t try to divide it into parts..
most of world well know bands are just the same when they play at “home”..
Be proud of Per and marie and keep suport them!!
cos even in my country we have lots of brilliant bands ,but they always will remain local phenomenon ...
ally77 said on August 18, 2004 11:27:
I have listen to Roxette since 1991, and Gyllene Tider since 1992, I have to be honest that for many years at least the past 10 Gyllene Tider is on my CD player a lot more than Roxette... I played C!B!B! the other day because a friend mentioned a song on there that she was listening to over and over again on repeat, and I thought ermmm not heard that in a while, so I played the album.... but no now Gyllene Tider is back in my CD player until perhaps I get the urge to play my Joyride album again!
Don’t know why Roxette don’t float my boat anymore not nearly as much as hearing Gyllene Tider, or Per and Marie’s solo stuff. Although being honest I hardly even play Marie’s solo stuff, guess I could say the kind of music I prefer is GT and Per’s solo stuff to Roxette.
I suppose what makes it stranger is that I am English, and therefore for about the first 5 years of listening to Gyllene Tider, I did not have a clue what they where singing about! Until I decided I would find out!
In my own head and heart I will always be a Roxette fan, because no matter how hard I try, without Roxette in my life I would not have discovered Gyllene Tider, I would not have heard such fantastic solo music from Per Gessle & Marie Fredriksson. I would not have discovered the one off album from The Lonely Boys, nor The World According To Gessle, or even know what a Mazarin was!!! ;)
I would have laughed if someone suggested I went to Sweden on Holiday, Halmstad would sound like an electrical product maker. Leif was just a name! Ikea would be a cheap shop for furniture and Joyride would still be something losers did when they stole cars!
In fact I am thinking I would have been a totally different person without Roxette in my life!, god they mapped out my life…. How I think things could have turned out so different if I had not been in my bedroom that day in 1991 listen to the top 40 countdown and I heard “The Big L”!!!
Most importantly I would not have met some of the people I have being a fan, and made some good friends over the years to chat and have a laugh with.
Hell I could have turned out a Madonna fan! ;)
Geirboy said on August 18, 2004 12:36:
Thanks for the replies, I will make three comments:
1) To “sparvogmarie”
I don’t generally dislike Maries singing. I actually enjoy her solowork a lot. It’s just her singing and Pers songs I dont mix so good in my ears, meaning I like Pers song better when he sings them. (I probably wouldn’t enjoy too much hearing Per sing “Sparvoge”. Ok?
2) To “Zaine”
Thanks for understanding my point and beeing able to look behind some of the words that maybe wasn’t so well chosen.
3) To “Emil”
I’m not hiding behind anything. My loginname is Geirboy. My real name is Geir and I am actually a boy. How can you possibly hide less than that??? Besides you ditch me for using the word “funeral” which i never did - please read my post over again and find that the worst word is “history”.
Finally, I’m not out to upset anyone. I guess I just didn’t realise to what extent this was a “pure” Roxette board, and not a board dedicated to all of Pers music.
Hotblooded said on August 18, 2004 12:58:
@ally77: What a great post! I agree with you totally except that I prefer Marie’s solo stuff more than Per but then it depends on what mood I’m in :)
ally77 said on August 18, 2004 13:30:
@ Hotblooded, snap, I tend to prefer Marie in Autumn and the Winter... :)
zaine said on August 18, 2004 14:55:
I think geirboy is a genuine guy, and not actually hiding behind the name. I think I interpreted what he said in a different way to everyone else, but anyway. good to see we can talk about this, and not instantly flame everyone ;)
Emil__BG said on August 18, 2004 15:05:
Geirboy
thanks for your replay–no personal fellings in all this..
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“I’m not hiding behind anything. My loginname is Geirboy. My real name is Geir and I am actually a boy.
How can you possibly hide less than that???”
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1. possibility-your are well know member of TDR and hiding under this name
2.possibility-as i said before”(you made account just to write this)”–wich is the even more rude–to enter the world of
Roxette forums just to write that you are happy about “the end of Roxette”
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” Besides you ditch me for using the word “funeral” which i never did -
please read my post over again and find that the worst word is “history”.”
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———–maybe i have read you first message ;-)
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What I would like for a Roxette funeral is:
1) A boxset with outtakes and demoes where per sings Maries parts
2) The best Roxette tracks redone by Per and his mates
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Finally, I’m not out to upset anyone.
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—again first message
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Ok, start killing me now...
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if strange that you think that people who you don’t want to upset must “start killing you” ;-)))
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I guess I just didn’t realise to what extent this was a “pure” Roxette board, and not a board dedicated to all of Pers music.
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read careful the topics and you’ll understand that most of the topics from last 2 years are dedicated to Per and GT
I spend my last money, travelled 2000 km and watched 2 Per’s concert,the same with GT this year,
most of the TDR members do the same so be sure- we like Per music ,WE are deducated to Per’s music.
The last GT concert from that tour will start soon....
So better we all stop with harsh coments and lets together enjoy these great songs!!!
Roxlander said on August 18, 2004 21:30:
The same boring topic about the end of Roxette. How many times are we gonna talk about it? Everytime Per or Marie says something like “I’m going to take my time” “I want a family” “I’ll take some time off” or whatever else, someone comes with this stupid topics just to take the attention. C’mon! If you’re really a Roxfan you’ll wait new material, you’ll enjoy it, and support Per and Marie’s other proyects. What’s the problem if the others prefer Per solo, Marie solo or GT ? So what? And if Roxette split... live and let die!
Anyway the wind will blow...
Lars-Erik_Olson (moderator) said on August 18, 2004 22:03:
I’ve had to delete a few posts that involved flaming.... fewer than I first thought actually when I arrived at this thread. Keep in mind that it’s OK to disagree with what someone else’s viewpoint... but we do NOT want publish ANY “flame”-type personal attacks. Please respect our work here by cooperating with this rule. Thanks!
p.s. And please don’t INVITE flaming by saying something like “ok, start killing me now” or “ok, start flaming me.”
ally77 said on August 19, 2004 01:07:
Whoops! I jus read the above post, a little too late I am afraid! ahh well....
RoxHard said on August 19, 2004 09:38:
Yay! They didn’t have to delete my posts this time! Finally, I’ve won their approval...
per4me said on September 17, 2004 21:36:
geirboy- everyone’s opinion counts. i agree with you about per 100%! the funeral part did bother me since marie is ill. however, roxette music was the only constant thing in my life and i do miss it. i love gyellena tider as well only here in the us thier music isn’t available. i don’t think that we should be divided between roxette or gyllen tider, after all isn’t it the people who make the band.
Skye said on September 18, 2004 07:30:
I’m easy to please.........i love them all !
Don’t want to see any band or muscian having a “funeral”.
Roxette will live in our hearts regardless!
AURYTE said on September 18, 2004 09:58:
I just want the old ROXETTE style come back!!! ROXETTE didn’t have to make experiments with THEIR music. THEY’ve got the style and, I hope, won’t loose it one more time.
xarrrr said on September 18, 2004 21:15:
@Skye - thats true :) as long as we love roxette they will live on.
as far as their music etc... goes... i’m kinda the same as Ally... it all started out being a roxette fan (and hell yeah i still am!!!!) but now its kinda turned more to Per and GT... dunno why, but thats how it is.
ally77 said on September 18, 2004 22:14:
Yup... although my major love I once lost for Roxette seems to be coming back this past couple of weeks, since someone lent me the CBB video which I did not have.... I cannot stop spending....... this evening we have played all Roxette stuff and I have enjoyed remembering the old times.... the early days where the best, and I was glad that I was around at the time to remember it... :)
Watercolours said on September 18, 2004 22:17:
@ Geirboy.... YOUR COMMENTS SUCK ASS LIKE YOU, FUCK OFF.... :) :)
Try looking up the word MORON in GOGGLE it applies to you!
I make no apolgies for this post, be warned I don’t give a shit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ally77 said on September 18, 2004 22:32:
Whoops, I knew I should have not left her alone with the PC this evening...
Geirboy said on September 21, 2004 14:30:
Watercolours:
Does your mother know you are playing with her computer? Are 10 year olds really allowed to use such language?
setmefree4ever said on September 22, 2004 18:42:
Geirboy... you do not even deserve a funeral. You should be immediately cremated or your body given to science. By the way, how does GT sound like.. any free downloads anyone know of?
Zargo said on August 17, 2004 11:59:
Dream on, pal